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StormCinder · 10-27-2008, 10:15 PM

crunk33 wrote:

I have a hard time believing some of what you people claim.
First and foremost you don't specify what you claim as shadows. Character/environmental shadows I can possibly believe, but all shadows including torch shadows I absolutely can't believe.
20-30 FPS in a crowded area is not acceptable to me. I can get 50-70 in a barren zone as well, but if I'm getting 20-30 in a town, that's not what I call running well.
Then someone claiming they're running maxed WHILE raiding I can believe even less. I've tried the "Extreme Quality" (aka maxed) setting, and it just brings your computer to a stuttering 15-20 FPS on my system in town areas.
Without further ado, my own screenshots on Garowyn docks in the same spot each time. The second and third SS are taken without particle effects on. My particle sliders are normally at about half (whatever balanced has it set on) and the effects are "very high," with not even an noticeable performance increase when changing them to "average."
My normal settings 37 FPS
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v.../EQ2_000032.jpg
Environmental/Character/Torch shadows on - Average shadow quantity 26 FPS
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v.../EQ2_000030.jpg
Same as above, but running at 1680x1050 instead of 1920x1200 28 FPS
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...Q2_000031-1.jpg
Character/Environmental shadows on only (back at 1920x1200) and particle on 32 FPS
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v.../EQ2_000034.jpg
As you'll notice, the first and last SS have hardly any visual difference. This is because it was nighttime. At night or in an roofed area, the only shadows that will appear are torch shadows. But you'll notice there's a performance drop even though you can't tell the difference at night. EDIT: The first SS being one without shadows on at all and the last being with only character/environ shadows.
I challenge anyone that wants to claim they are running max and wants to put me in my place, to go the same spot (Garowyn docks) and take screens of yourself in the same exact place, post your important settings, and post what resolution you are on and your PC specs if necessary. EDIT: You may want to note if you have a torch equipped on your character or not. As it is now, I'm not inclined to believe anyone, especially someone with lesser PC specs than me, can run this game at near max and run it well in busy areas and especially while raiding.

Can you give a zone/LOC for this location, please?

SC

EDIT. For lack of a /LOC I went running around Gorowyn and took a bunch of screenies. Will post when I have somewhere to host them. Regardess, I run at 1680x1050. Added all lighting effects maxed minus shadows and dropped to about 50fps. Added all shadows...basically maxed everything..shadows, #light sources, #player torches, lighting, etc (basically went down the list and switched all to maximum and moved all sliders to right) and came down to 43-45. Tried a couple of different places...found a bar-like area on second floor of city that had lots of purple hanging paper lamps and multiple NPCs, 19 players in zone....dropped to 37 at one point, but stayed in mid-upper 40s consistantly. I noticed that if I dropped specular lighting (leaving shadows on) I got back about 10fps. I've got a torch equipped (you owe me 3 silver for the torch I had to buy).

Not sure how that rates against yours, but I do like my new settings. Will be keeping the shadows. TY.

10-27-2008, 10:15 PM	#24
StormCinder Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,009	crunk33 wrote: I have a hard time believing some of what you people claim. First and foremost you don't specify what you claim as shadows. Character/environmental shadows I can possibly believe, but all shadows including torch shadows I absolutely can't believe. 20-30 FPS in a crowded area is not acceptable to me. I can get 50-70 in a barren zone as well, but if I'm getting 20-30 in a town, that's not what I call running well. Then someone claiming they're running maxed WHILE raiding I can believe even less. I've tried the "Extreme Quality" (aka maxed) setting, and it just brings your computer to a stuttering 15-20 FPS on my system in town areas. Without further ado, my own screenshots on Garowyn docks in the same spot each time. The second and third SS are taken without particle effects on. My particle sliders are normally at about half (whatever balanced has it set on) and the effects are "very high," with not even an noticeable performance increase when changing them to "average." My normal settings 37 FPS http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v.../EQ2_000032.jpg Environmental/Character/Torch shadows on - Average shadow quantity 26 FPS http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v.../EQ2_000030.jpg Same as above, but running at 1680x1050 instead of 1920x1200 28 FPS http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...Q2_000031-1.jpg Character/Environmental shadows on only (back at 1920x1200) and particle on 32 FPS http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v.../EQ2_000034.jpg As you'll notice, the first and last SS have hardly any visual difference. This is because it was nighttime. At night or in an roofed area, the only shadows that will appear are torch shadows. But you'll notice there's a performance drop even though you can't tell the difference at night. EDIT: The first SS being one without shadows on at all and the last being with only character/environ shadows. I challenge anyone that wants to claim they are running max and wants to put me in my place, to go the same spot (Garowyn docks) and take screens of yourself in the same exact place, post your important settings, and post what resolution you are on and your PC specs if necessary. EDIT: You may want to note if you have a torch equipped on your character or not. As it is now, I'm not inclined to believe anyone, especially someone with lesser PC specs than me, can run this game at near max and run it well in busy areas and especially while raiding. Can you give a zone/LOC for this location, please? SC EDIT. For lack of a /LOC I went running around Gorowyn and took a bunch of screenies. Will post when I have somewhere to host them. Regardess, I run at 1680x1050. Added all lighting effects maxed minus shadows and dropped to about 50fps. Added all shadows...basically maxed everything..shadows, #light sources, #player torches, lighting, etc (basically went down the list and switched all to maximum and moved all sliders to right) and came down to 43-45. Tried a couple of different places...found a bar-like area on second floor of city that had lots of purple hanging paper lamps and multiple NPCs, 19 players in zone....dropped to 37 at one point, but stayed in mid-upper 40s consistantly. I noticed that if I dropped specular lighting (leaving shadows on) I got back about 10fps. I've got a torch equipped (you owe me 3 silver for the torch I had to buy). Not sure how that rates against yours, but I do like my new settings. Will be keeping the shadows. TY. __________________ ______________________________________________ Hostis Humani Generis cur·mudg·eon (kr-mjn) n. An ill-tempered person full of resentment and stubborn notions.