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Aull · 09-20-2008, 11:52 AM

Zhon@Lucan DLere wrote:

Aeralik wrote:
Sketchey@Blackburrow wrote:
There is an old saying that I think goes "With great buffage comes great nerfability"So I just hope the rest of the world could accept an SK being on par with a guardian...or that the powers that be let it stay that way after these adjustments roll in. Because this is sounding pretty awesome so far.
Guardian will still be the better defensive tank after the changes its just that the others should be a lot closer than before. Sk and Berserkers are the ones who are more aoe oriented though and should be similar in nature once the changes are all done.
Aeralik wrote:
Lets keep this thread on topic about shadowknights please. If you have concerns about fighter balance in regards to a particular class please post it in the appropriate forum.
Ok, so you said if we have any concerns about the fighter class balance in regards to out class particularly to make a thread, here it is.
So taking into consideration old world game play Zerker were always the AOE kings of this game. That was kinda of striped away from us by Paladins in KOS consideringing they have more AOE's on better cast timers and a Higher damage potential AOE than Destruction. We only just got this title back with our mythical. To be honest with you I have never pictured an SK as an AOE tank if anything I thought of them as the single target dps king or the other side of the coin to the Beserker. Currently the flips side of the coin is the Guardian which seriously is the major thorn in our classes side and considering they are supose to be king defensive tank majorly unblanced.
So how is it class defining and in the interest of balance in the game to make 2 classes, 3 really since the palidin is still consider number 2 for AOE DPS, have the same traits. So now we will have 3 tanks that specialize in AOE DPS? I mean the guardians already got our Auto Attack table, why should we be giving up the only thing we have any supremacy in when we just got it back. I can justify competing with shadowknight on a the parse and by all means they were in need of a boost, but to me it seems that they need to be taking the single target dps card from the guardian and not dipping into our bowl of pudding.
So you mind elaborating a bit on your comments perhaps explaining how exactly this is going to play out cause it just sounds to me like you are taking yet another attribute of the Zerker and parting it out to Quick Fix another Fighter class.

I totally agree with you statement. Zerkers have not been the aoe kings that I was lead to believe for quite some time now. Aoe damage was one of the reasons I rolled a zerker to begin with. Both crusaders can aoe on a more consistant basis than a zerker can and with a fair consistancy can equal or surpass zerker aoe dps as well. Paladins to me are the aoe kings and have been for a while. Sk and zerkers were close before ROK in aoe damage output. What I feel is gonna happen now is that if zerkers and sk's will be more aoe oriented and similar then being able to distinguish or have class individuality will not exsist.

I still think that having six fighter classes is just to many to work with to have an actual class specialty or individuality. I always liked that certain classes were deemed better at certain situations than others. Anyway I will wait till expansion is released and see what happens.

I am glad to see that Aeralik is posting and that is good to see. At least having some idea is better than none at all.

09-20-2008, 11:52 AM	#2
Aull Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,429	Zhon@Lucan DLere wrote: Aeralik wrote: Sketchey@Blackburrow wrote: There is an old saying that I think goes "With great buffage comes great nerfability"So I just hope the rest of the world could accept an SK being on par with a guardian...or that the powers that be let it stay that way after these adjustments roll in. Because this is sounding pretty awesome so far. Guardian will still be the better defensive tank after the changes its just that the others should be a lot closer than before. Sk and Berserkers are the ones who are more aoe oriented though and should be similar in nature once the changes are all done. Aeralik wrote: Lets keep this thread on topic about shadowknights please. If you have concerns about fighter balance in regards to a particular class please post it in the appropriate forum. Ok, so you said if we have any concerns about the fighter class balance in regards to out class particularly to make a thread, here it is. So taking into consideration old world game play Zerker were always the AOE kings of this game. That was kinda of striped away from us by Paladins in KOS consideringing they have more AOE's on better cast timers and a Higher damage potential AOE than Destruction. We only just got this title back with our mythical. To be honest with you I have never pictured an SK as an AOE tank if anything I thought of them as the single target dps king or the other side of the coin to the Beserker. Currently the flips side of the coin is the Guardian which seriously is the major thorn in our classes side and considering they are supose to be king defensive tank majorly unblanced. So how is it class defining and in the interest of balance in the game to make 2 classes, 3 really since the palidin is still consider number 2 for AOE DPS, have the same traits. So now we will have 3 tanks that specialize in AOE DPS? I mean the guardians already got our Auto Attack table, why should we be giving up the only thing we have any supremacy in when we just got it back. I can justify competing with shadowknight on a the parse and by all means they were in need of a boost, but to me it seems that they need to be taking the single target dps card from the guardian and not dipping into our bowl of pudding. So you mind elaborating a bit on your comments perhaps explaining how exactly this is going to play out cause it just sounds to me like you are taking yet another attribute of the Zerker and parting it out to Quick Fix another Fighter class. I totally agree with you statement. Zerkers have not been the aoe kings that I was lead to believe for quite some time now. Aoe damage was one of the reasons I rolled a zerker to begin with. Both crusaders can aoe on a more consistant basis than a zerker can and with a fair consistancy can equal or surpass zerker aoe dps as well. Paladins to me are the aoe kings and have been for a while. Sk and zerkers were close before ROK in aoe damage output. What I feel is gonna happen now is that if zerkers and sk's will be more aoe oriented and similar then being able to distinguish or have class individuality will not exsist. I still think that having six fighter classes is just to many to work with to have an actual class specialty or individuality. I always liked that certain classes were deemed better at certain situations than others. Anyway I will wait till expansion is released and see what happens. I am glad to see that Aeralik is posting and that is good to see. At least having some idea is better than none at all.