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kw · 07-02-2008, 02:36 AM

Luceus@Everfrost wrote:

Good change to the Inq's, but please, please take a better look at the Brigand changes, and the brigand mythical in general. Casting speed is useless, especially since it's usually near 'capped' with a bard and sailwind. We get an increase in rear-only attacks which is a grand total of 4 CA's (5 if counting master strike). The dmg proc (Havoc's Fury) seems to do less than our Rogue counterpartsMost raid mobs are pretty well capped at attack speed reduction, but if not then I do like that proc. And finally our debuffs go from destroying a mobs defense to destroying a mobs defense a tad more. Where is the class defining proc? Or why no mod like other classes get? Here is a list of epics that actually change the mechanics of a spell or AA line:Troub/ Dirge- Raidwide procMystics - Spirit TapWarlock - changes group spells to single target - good for RoKWizard - Double attackNecro / Conjy - New hardcore petsCoercer - adds mental damage to tanks taunts, mana flow groupwideAssassins - multiple target damageIllu - Rapidity, removes concentrationGuard - riposte immune, AA increase (tower shield)Inq - group curesSk - another form of rescueTemplar - aegolism into groupwide buff + increasing what it doesFury - raidwide buffWhat I would be thrilled with is remove the 'empty off hand' requirement from the wisdom line. We'll basically just be getting some double attack and lunge reversal. And we can't put all our points in there anyway because it's almost essential to have STR/AGI maxed already. Just a suggestion, hopefully you read this

ROFL, warlock's epic is good for RoK? I'm sure u've never played warlock and never used warlock' epic.

Warlock has 3 encouter AEs, which are affected by my epic. but just only ONE of that AE is useful.

Amageddon - always useful on single target, whenever clicky on or not
Radiation - totally useless on single target, too low damage, too long casting, although clicky buff on.
Absolution - Although buff on, (damage per casting time) is lower than any other single DD amd DoT.

As u see, only Amageddon is used on single target, no matter clicky on or not. That is, clicky improves our dps very very a bit on single target by only modified Apocalypse damage. ppl who don't know warlock think our clikcy is very good for single target. However, it's not true!. Our clicky buff is not totally useful, but close to useless. Ask to other warlock in ur guild, whether they cast Radiation or Absolution on single target while clicky on. Most of warlock will say they cast only Amageddon. If some warlock says they cast Absolution, they are one of two types, who don't know his class well, or who have high casting time modifier and very low reuse time modifier.

And warlock proc buff is funny too. warlock are dpser, but our proc focus on survival , not dps. It's ok if that proc works well. However, I just found I can't cast AE fully on grp mobs without pally's amend. Warlock with epic should cast AE in same order as without epic. If not, u die anyway. Yeah.. u can not die with full nuke of AE. but u must know it's up to ur luck. As u know, all of grp encounter(except grp mob in PR(tier1)) in RoK raid die in 5-10 sec, How many proc triggers in 10 sec? rofl. it's totally up to ur luck!. If grp encounter dehate proc is clicky having 30sec reuse. it'll be more useful. Yeah. I know it is hard to put two clicky effect in one item.. but anyway it's not impossible. buff can be clicked by examining epic dehate can be used by using epic.

Anyway, I want to suggest Dev should examine our epic more closely. Warlock epic does not work like as other thinks. It looks enough good at a glance. But if u use it, u'll find it's not. our epic should be changed, not only dumbfire, but also clicky.

07-02-2008, 02:36 AM	#436
kw General Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 11	Luceus@Everfrost wrote: Good change to the Inq's, but please, please take a better look at the Brigand changes, and the brigand mythical in general. Casting speed is useless, especially since it's usually near 'capped' with a bard and sailwind. We get an increase in rear-only attacks which is a grand total of 4 CA's (5 if counting master strike). The dmg proc (Havoc's Fury) seems to do less than our Rogue counterpartsMost raid mobs are pretty well capped at attack speed reduction, but if not then I do like that proc. And finally our debuffs go from destroying a mobs defense to destroying a mobs defense a tad more. Where is the class defining proc? Or why no mod like other classes get? Here is a list of epics that actually change the mechanics of a spell or AA line:Troub/ Dirge- Raidwide procMystics - Spirit TapWarlock - changes group spells to single target - good for RoKWizard - Double attackNecro / Conjy - New hardcore petsCoercer - adds mental damage to tanks taunts, mana flow groupwideAssassins - multiple target damageIllu - Rapidity, removes concentrationGuard - riposte immune, AA increase (tower shield)Inq - group curesSk - another form of rescueTemplar - aegolism into groupwide buff + increasing what it doesFury - raidwide buffWhat I would be thrilled with is remove the 'empty off hand' requirement from the wisdom line. We'll basically just be getting some double attack and lunge reversal. And we can't put all our points in there anyway because it's almost essential to have STR/AGI maxed already. Just a suggestion, hopefully you read this ROFL, warlock's epic is good for RoK? I'm sure u've never played warlock and never used warlock' epic. Warlock has 3 encouter AEs, which are affected by my epic. but just only ONE of that AE is useful. Amageddon - always useful on single target, whenever clicky on or not Radiation - totally useless on single target, too low damage, too long casting, although clicky buff on. Absolution - Although buff on, (damage per casting time) is lower than any other single DD amd DoT. As u see, only Amageddon is used on single target, no matter clicky on or not. That is, clicky improves our dps very very a bit on single target by only modified Apocalypse damage. ppl who don't know warlock think our clikcy is very good for single target. However, it's not true!. Our clicky buff is not totally useful, but close to useless. Ask to other warlock in ur guild, whether they cast Radiation or Absolution on single target while clicky on. Most of warlock will say they cast only Amageddon. If some warlock says they cast Absolution, they are one of two types, who don't know his class well, or who have high casting time modifier and very low reuse time modifier. And warlock proc buff is funny too. warlock are dpser, but our proc focus on survival , not dps. It's ok if that proc works well. However, I just found I can't cast AE fully on grp mobs without pally's amend. Warlock with epic should cast AE in same order as without epic. If not, u die anyway. Yeah.. u can not die with full nuke of AE. but u must know it's up to ur luck. As u know, all of grp encounter(except grp mob in PR(tier1)) in RoK raid die in 5-10 sec, How many proc triggers in 10 sec? rofl. it's totally up to ur luck!. If grp encounter dehate proc is clicky having 30sec reuse. it'll be more useful. Yeah. I know it is hard to put two clicky effect in one item.. but anyway it's not impossible. buff can be clicked by examining epic dehate can be used by using epic. Anyway, I want to suggest Dev should examine our epic more closely. Warlock epic does not work like as other thinks. It looks enough good at a glance. But if u use it, u'll find it's not. our epic should be changed, not only dumbfire, but also clicky.