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Klaktar · 04-16-2008, 02:35 AM

Gerrie wrote:

Goonch wrote:
So many things incorrect here.1) Brigands didn't become a powerhouse until T6. Most servers had a dozen brigands at level 50 tops in T5. And we definitely weren't doing the top dps back then either. Most fighter classes, sorcerers, preds, and summoners all owned us.2) If you are in the same group with the same buffs as assassins they should do more dps than you 100% of the time.3) Who would use Shenanigans on a raid mob? Even on trash its pointless.
you re running on wrong information there. some brigands did parse higher. but it s been a long time too.

T6 = 50-59. His informations is 100% accurate. Yours, is not. Brigands were never meant to be a DPS class, so to speak. Before Desert of Flames launched, our DPS was [I cannot control my vocabulary], but we had the debuffs to make us an incredibly useful class. We got Dispatch and Amazing Reflexes in T6, which was a huge boost to DPS on raids (Dispatch boosted everyone, of course). Kingdom of Sky came out (T7 - 60-69), and with the advent of Achievements, we became monsters on the parse. This trend continued with EoF's extra AA trees and more AA points becoming available.Brigands never parsed higher than an equal level assassin until DoF/KoS. Assassins, Wizards, Warlocks, and Rangers SHOULD be outparsing us. If not, they need to work on their character. The reason we matched the power of Assassins was because we didn't have to joust AoEs, and our 1hand AA line was insane. With the nerfs to AR and the changes to dual wield weapons, that changed. Note how it became more balanced, the only nerf we've ever recieved was the changes to AR since EoF launched.And to reiterate, there's no reason you should be using shenanigans on a raid mob. Lots of raid mobs heal when people die, and shenanigans tends to kill you. Also, if your guild doesn't want you to melee because of heavy aoes, either they're stupid, or you suck and can't keep AR proc'd on AoE calls. Every time an AoE is called, I stay in and DPS, and my guild knows why. They know I have AR proc'd, because if I don't, I back out. There's no reason that you shouldn't be meleeing (is that a word?) continuously on a raid boss.Edited because I suck at font codes.

04-16-2008, 02:35 AM	#9
Klaktar Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 99	Gerrie wrote: Goonch wrote: So many things incorrect here.1) Brigands didn't become a powerhouse until T6. Most servers had a dozen brigands at level 50 tops in T5. And we definitely weren't doing the top dps back then either. Most fighter classes, sorcerers, preds, and summoners all owned us.2) If you are in the same group with the same buffs as assassins they should do more dps than you 100% of the time.3) Who would use Shenanigans on a raid mob? Even on trash its pointless. you re running on wrong information there. some brigands did parse higher. but it s been a long time too. T6 = 50-59. His informations is 100% accurate. Yours, is not. Brigands were never meant to be a DPS class, so to speak. Before Desert of Flames launched, our DPS was [I cannot control my vocabulary], but we had the debuffs to make us an incredibly useful class. We got Dispatch and Amazing Reflexes in T6, which was a huge boost to DPS on raids (Dispatch boosted everyone, of course). Kingdom of Sky came out (T7 - 60-69), and with the advent of Achievements, we became monsters on the parse. This trend continued with EoF's extra AA trees and more AA points becoming available.Brigands never parsed higher than an equal level assassin until DoF/KoS. Assassins, Wizards, Warlocks, and Rangers SHOULD be outparsing us. If not, they need to work on their character. The reason we matched the power of Assassins was because we didn't have to joust AoEs, and our 1hand AA line was insane. With the nerfs to AR and the changes to dual wield weapons, that changed. Note how it became more balanced, the only nerf we've ever recieved was the changes to AR since EoF launched.And to reiterate, there's no reason you should be using shenanigans on a raid mob. Lots of raid mobs heal when people die, and shenanigans tends to kill you. Also, if your guild doesn't want you to melee because of heavy aoes, either they're stupid, or you suck and can't keep AR proc'd on AoE calls. Every time an AoE is called, I stay in and DPS, and my guild knows why. They know I have AR proc'd, because if I don't, I back out. There's no reason that you shouldn't be meleeing (is that a word?) continuously on a raid boss.Edited because I suck at font codes.