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Outkasted2006 · 11-13-2007, 05:42 PM

Ridyen65 wrote:

Outkasted2006 wrote:
Being that i have a 70/100 (As do a lot of us) , I think it's a joke lower levels in pvp can lock lvls, twink out, put all their resources into that tier, and actually be rewarded for it to, they are given AA.
No offense, but you should not get AA in spot of XP if your not max level. Period.
1.) What it promotes it bad enough.
2.) Yes it does create a unfair enviroment. (Don't say "well you can do it yourself so don't cry about it" Not everyone wants to spend their life in t2-t4) This level locking has promoted a lot of negative issues, and promoting little to nothing positive.
For one ,because of it, T5 and ESPECIALLY T6 are virtually dead, and finding a decent group is tough.
But my biggest point to all this, is if you chose to shut off your Combat XP, you shouldn't get AA anyways. Being that when your lvl 70 and kill anything what do you get.. AA. If your combat is shut off you definitely shouldn't be rewarded with AA.
Please just do away with level locking. For one, it makes everything cost way to much. Sorry folks, watching the buying and selling of t2 masters for 1-4 plat makes me sick.
First of all let me state that I (As do a lot of us) have a level 70 that's pretty much mastered out and has some decent (Fabled) KOS gear and a level locked 43 thats pretty much mastered out but whose gear is ok but not the best. I've played both sides of this issue. I stopped playing my level 70 because I found that getting constantly ganked by groups waiting at cloud landing sites in KOS was simply no fun. Gear and AA don't mean a thing when you are constanly jumped by gank groups or raiding guilds. Like I said my lvl 70 has pretty good gear but the best gear can only be obtained by raiding, raiding and more raiding. Some of us just don't like raiding 6 days a week so we can have a50/50 chance of winning a solo pvp fight on the 7th day.
For the past year I have had more fun with my locked level 43 than I ever had just level grinding to get to 70. Yes I killed anything I could for faction but I certainly didn't go out of my way to hunt them. More often that not it is the group of grey destroyers trying to kill me (and they do).
If the AA is your issue then I would advocate eliminateing all AA until lvl 70. Give it as a reward to those who rushed up to level 70 and have nothing left to do besides raid or wait at for a lvl 60 to pounce on. Personally I am enjoing the questing and the PVP that comes with it.
As for buying/selling of masters at t2 I'm not sure of your issue there. Due to level lockers there are a ton of masters on the market and many are dirt cheap - only 15-20 gold. My level 70 never had masters in the lower tiers because they were so expensive and I knew that I would simply be growing out of them in 10 levels. Let's talk the price of some masters in the higher tiers. As I said above my lvl 70 is "pretty much mastered" but not entirely. Folks wanting 50-100pp for lvl 60-70 masters is much more insane.

It's not about raiding, it's about making the game a lot more even. Ill get back to all the pvp stuff in a sec, but as far as those masters? yeah, thats what my guardian paid till T4 now they are all a 2-5 plat. My buddies warden though? from lvl 10 up masters have been expensive. Yes , there has been like 3 lvls where his masters were relatively cheap. but outside of that. Nada, that's the the deal. And I've seen the same case with other classes. Certain classes are cheaper then others for the most part.

The reply to your AA response , Dude, you enjoy questing? That's great and you should get AA for it, but you shouldnt get the pvp AA. Not to mention the childish arguement of "well if I can't get AS MUCH of it as I would like now, then I don't want it at all" arguement is just plain stupid. No , AA should remain as is, minus the fact if you turn off your XP you do NOT get AA for combat XP simple as that. N

Now the T7 masters that have and go for that price, dude, I have sold a ton of those. And at the time they were worth it, There were NO , I mean ZERO, upgrades to these spells. And until, RoK comes out you can't upgrade them. And some of them still don't HAVE a upgrade. Having your spells mastered is a distinct advantage in raiding, and YES in PVP. You know their is raid gear in every tier, why not take away the lvl locking crap, have more T7 (now T SMILEY and keep the flow of the game going, and that way the game is in a nice ordered progression unlike it is right now.

11-13-2007, 05:42 PM	#30
Outkasted2006 Loremaster Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 143	Ridyen65 wrote: Outkasted2006 wrote: Being that i have a 70/100 (As do a lot of us) , I think it's a joke lower levels in pvp can lock lvls, twink out, put all their resources into that tier, and actually be rewarded for it to, they are given AA. No offense, but you should not get AA in spot of XP if your not max level. Period. 1.) What it promotes it bad enough. 2.) Yes it does create a unfair enviroment. (Don't say "well you can do it yourself so don't cry about it" Not everyone wants to spend their life in t2-t4) This level locking has promoted a lot of negative issues, and promoting little to nothing positive. For one ,because of it, T5 and ESPECIALLY T6 are virtually dead, and finding a decent group is tough. But my biggest point to all this, is if you chose to shut off your Combat XP, you shouldn't get AA anyways. Being that when your lvl 70 and kill anything what do you get.. AA. If your combat is shut off you definitely shouldn't be rewarded with AA. Please just do away with level locking. For one, it makes everything cost way to much. Sorry folks, watching the buying and selling of t2 masters for 1-4 plat makes me sick. First of all let me state that I (As do a lot of us) have a level 70 that's pretty much mastered out and has some decent (Fabled) KOS gear and a level locked 43 thats pretty much mastered out but whose gear is ok but not the best. I've played both sides of this issue. I stopped playing my level 70 because I found that getting constantly ganked by groups waiting at cloud landing sites in KOS was simply no fun. Gear and AA don't mean a thing when you are constanly jumped by gank groups or raiding guilds. Like I said my lvl 70 has pretty good gear but the best gear can only be obtained by raiding, raiding and more raiding. Some of us just don't like raiding 6 days a week so we can have a50/50 chance of winning a solo pvp fight on the 7th day. For the past year I have had more fun with my locked level 43 than I ever had just level grinding to get to 70. Yes I killed anything I could for faction but I certainly didn't go out of my way to hunt them. More often that not it is the group of grey destroyers trying to kill me (and they do). If the AA is your issue then I would advocate eliminateing all AA until lvl 70. Give it as a reward to those who rushed up to level 70 and have nothing left to do besides raid or wait at for a lvl 60 to pounce on. Personally I am enjoing the questing and the PVP that comes with it. As for buying/selling of masters at t2 I'm not sure of your issue there. Due to level lockers there are a ton of masters on the market and many are dirt cheap - only 15-20 gold. My level 70 never had masters in the lower tiers because they were so expensive and I knew that I would simply be growing out of them in 10 levels. Let's talk the price of some masters in the higher tiers. As I said above my lvl 70 is "pretty much mastered" but not entirely. Folks wanting 50-100pp for lvl 60-70 masters is much more insane. It's not about raiding, it's about making the game a lot more even. Ill get back to all the pvp stuff in a sec, but as far as those masters? yeah, thats what my guardian paid till T4 now they are all a 2-5 plat. My buddies warden though? from lvl 10 up masters have been expensive. Yes , there has been like 3 lvls where his masters were relatively cheap. but outside of that. Nada, that's the the deal. And I've seen the same case with other classes. Certain classes are cheaper then others for the most part. The reply to your AA response , Dude, you enjoy questing? That's great and you should get AA for it, but you shouldnt get the pvp AA. Not to mention the childish arguement of "well if I can't get AS MUCH of it as I would like now, then I don't want it at all" arguement is just plain stupid. No , AA should remain as is, minus the fact if you turn off your XP you do NOT get AA for combat XP simple as that. N Now the T7 masters that have and go for that price, dude, I have sold a ton of those. And at the time they were worth it, There were NO , I mean ZERO, upgrades to these spells. And until, RoK comes out you can't upgrade them. And some of them still don't HAVE a upgrade. Having your spells mastered is a distinct advantage in raiding, and YES in PVP. You know their is raid gear in every tier, why not take away the lvl locking crap, have more T7 (now Tand keep the flow of the game going, and that way the game is in a nice ordered progression unlike it is right now.