well for one, thats still almost 80$ for the both of us, and i dont have or want a credit card. i shouldnt need to. sony just needs to get off its high horse and stop holding/keeping most of its sales to internet only. and yes its true, they are, though i dont remember where i read it. frankly if you ask me its a stupid marketing idea. and i know EOF includes everything, but guess what, right after i buy it, there going to come out with another.... yay