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DobyMT · 02-14-2007, 07:06 PM

Aeralik wrote:

DobyMT wrote:
Norrsken wrote:
Windowlicker wrote:
You can thank the PVP servers for the horse changes.
No, the ones begging for new, more realistic horse graphics are the ones to blame.
No, this is another PvP request coming to our PvE servers. See, in PvE, super jumping on a horse does nothing to affect gameplay. On PvP, it certainly does. This change makes a person choose between running fast, or jumping far. That doesn't change the leash on a PvE mob, but it does a PvP PC. Please keep the PvP complaints coming so this game can become MORE of the shell that it has become since in the inception of PvP.
Not every change is about pvp and this definitely wasn't. Once again if we wanted this disabled in pvp we could have attached the same requisite and used an and condition for pvp servers. The main reason behind the change was twofold. Fist it looks kinda silly when the horses jump because these are stilts after all not gnomish horseshoes. The main reason though is consistency. When a fae gets on a horse, the glide trait disables. The stilts use the same effect as glide but due to some differences between spells on an item and cast spells it wasnt initially possible to restrict it on the stilts. We took care of that and now the stilts will disable like fae glide.

So aesthetically speaking, horses are ok going THAT slow backwards, we can still dodge, parry, and riposte on a horse, we can invis and sneak while on a horse, WE take falling damage while on a horse, some horses are spirits, we call them all with a whistle, I mean, I can go on and on about the look and feel of the mounts in the game. And as was mentioned, Fae druids can have the benefit of everything, increased run speed, comparable to a horse, glide, and stilts? I don't understand how in a fantasy game, a horse can't get a benefit from a spell from its master. Consistancy hasn't really been an issue in this game, but I'm not complaining about that. So why so much concern about those gnomish boots(2 updates in a row) when there are so many other fish to fry?

02-14-2007, 07:06 PM	#16
DobyMT Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 568	Aeralik wrote: DobyMT wrote: Norrsken wrote: Windowlicker wrote: You can thank the PVP servers for the horse changes. No, the ones begging for new, more realistic horse graphics are the ones to blame. No, this is another PvP request coming to our PvE servers. See, in PvE, super jumping on a horse does nothing to affect gameplay. On PvP, it certainly does. This change makes a person choose between running fast, or jumping far. That doesn't change the leash on a PvE mob, but it does a PvP PC. Please keep the PvP complaints coming so this game can become MORE of the shell that it has become since in the inception of PvP. Not every change is about pvp and this definitely wasn't. Once again if we wanted this disabled in pvp we could have attached the same requisite and used an and condition for pvp servers. The main reason behind the change was twofold. Fist it looks kinda silly when the horses jump because these are stilts after all not gnomish horseshoes. The main reason though is consistency. When a fae gets on a horse, the glide trait disables. The stilts use the same effect as glide but due to some differences between spells on an item and cast spells it wasnt initially possible to restrict it on the stilts. We took care of that and now the stilts will disable like fae glide. So aesthetically speaking, horses are ok going THAT slow backwards, we can still dodge, parry, and riposte on a horse, we can invis and sneak while on a horse, WE take falling damage while on a horse, some horses are spirits, we call them all with a whistle, I mean, I can go on and on about the look and feel of the mounts in the game. And as was mentioned, Fae druids can have the benefit of everything, increased run speed, comparable to a horse, glide, and stilts? I don't understand how in a fantasy game, a horse can't get a benefit from a spell from its master. Consistancy hasn't really been an issue in this game, but I'm not complaining about that. So why so much concern about those gnomish boots(2 updates in a row) when there are so many other fish to fry?