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Ranja · 01-29-2007, 09:24 PM

Gareorn wrote:

jjlo69 wrote:
well i dont know what guild you in and really dont care. But we have 2 rangers in our RAIDING guild and we kills raid mobs np and depending on group set up. both of us top the parser one single target or multi traget and are always in the top 5 zone wide maybe you need to recheck you gear/combat arts and play style in stead of putting crap like this up on the forums. and as far as feeling usless try playing a SK in raid if you really want to feel usless.

I wasn't going to touch this thread and I'll probably hate myself in the morning... You do know that where you fall on the parser is relative to your raid, right? And that your position on the parser is not an indication of your true value to the raid force, right? Also, you do unsderstand that SKs providing less value than than Rangers to a raid force does not make Rangers more valuable than all the other classes, right?

Even if both your Rangers are parsing 1500 zone-wide. Removing them from from the raid force would only amount to a reduction of 3k to the raid force's DPS. If you replaced them with any other utility classes, such as a Dirge, Coercer, etc. (just about any non-healer class) your raid force's DPS could easily be increased to make-up the 3k loss with their buffs and de-buffs, plus get their own DPS to boot. Any savy raid leader knows this.

Believe what you want, but unless you are filling an otherwise empty raid slot, you are just along for the ride.

QFE. This is true. We do damage and damage only and saddly there are some other classes out there that can do our damage and add more utility. So Gareorn is right but only in hardcore raiding guilds do you find this - where every spot matters. In most other raiding guilds, your ranger will do fine and always have a spot. Assassins are starting to fall in this boat as well in EoF. Our AA's brought us even to our assassin brothers and swashies have a hate transfer as well. And since swashies have a multitude of AoE attacks they end up transferring more hate to the MT in the mt group. There really is no use for the predator class with rogues spec'd the way they are. We are just there to look sexy.

01-29-2007, 09:24 PM	#10
Ranja Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,657	Gareorn wrote: jjlo69 wrote: well i dont know what guild you in and really dont care. But we have 2 rangers in our RAIDING guild and we kills raid mobs np and depending on group set up. both of us top the parser one single target or multi traget and are always in the top 5 zone wide maybe you need to recheck you gear/combat arts and play style in stead of putting crap like this up on the forums. and as far as feeling usless try playing a SK in raid if you really want to feel usless. I wasn't going to touch this thread and I'll probably hate myself in the morning... You do know that where you fall on the parser is relative to your raid, right? And that your position on the parser is not an indication of your true value to the raid force, right? Also, you do unsderstand that SKs providing less value than than Rangers to a raid force does not make Rangers more valuable than all the other classes, right? Even if both your Rangers are parsing 1500 zone-wide. Removing them from from the raid force would only amount to a reduction of 3k to the raid force's DPS. If you replaced them with any other utility classes, such as a Dirge, Coercer, etc. (just about any non-healer class) your raid force's DPS could easily be increased to make-up the 3k loss with their buffs and de-buffs, plus get their own DPS to boot. Any savy raid leader knows this. Believe what you want, but unless you are filling an otherwise empty raid slot, you are just along for the ride. QFE. This is true. We do damage and damage only and saddly there are some other classes out there that can do our damage and add more utility. So Gareorn is right but only in hardcore raiding guilds do you find this - where every spot matters. In most other raiding guilds, your ranger will do fine and always have a spot. Assassins are starting to fall in this boat as well in EoF. Our AA's brought us even to our assassin brothers and swashies have a hate transfer as well. And since swashies have a multitude of AoE attacks they end up transferring more hate to the MT in the mt group. There really is no use for the predator class with rogues spec'd the way they are. We are just there to look sexy. __________________ Elbryan, 90 Half-elf Ranger Thoghmor, 70 Troll Bruiser Rotir, 90 Dark Elf Swash Terrano, 82 Dark Elf Dirge Aymon, 90, Barbarian Shadowknight The Destroyer of Worlds: http://s7.gladiatus.com/game/c.php?uid=84341