Carnagh wrote:
Balerius wrote:
So guardians/berserkers and swashbucklers/brigands simply smoke us in ranged dps (autoattack).
Does the Rogue double attack AA work with ranged weapons? YES
Balerius wrote:
For that matter, given the rather puny damage on most of our ranged CAs, unless sniper shot or rain of arrows CAs are available, they would out-dps us even if we counted our ranged CA damage.
Are you suggesting that my Brigand using ranged auto-attack will out-dps a Ranger who is using ranged CAs? Not always. But it is frequently the case. It depends on how many crits the ranger gets versus how many crits the rogue gets. Remember, the rogue is double attacking, meaning each attack is "full" damage plus each attack can crit. The ranger is just attacking once with a one chance to crit. With the exception of Sniper Shot and Rain of Arrows, and to a lesser extent Veiled Fire, the damage on our ranged CAs is pretty low...so low that they are often exceeded by pure autoattack. So without one of our "big hitting/long recast" CAs being used, it isn't hard at all for a rogue/fighter to out-dps a ranger with ranged attack.
I'd also take this opportunity to point out that Swashbucklers gain a little more from double attack than Brigands as they have additional procs that can be triggered from a double attack. I'd hope that you'd not assume both Rogues are the same any more than you'd assume both Predators are the same.
What makes you think that I assume that the two rogue classes were the same? Granted, Swashys have some self-buffs that cause them to do slightly higher dps than brigands. But the context of my discussion was in raids where it isn't just the rogue's own buffs that matter, but the buffs of other classes as well. In that context, I stand by my statements.
Balerius