amends isnt supposed to work with ANY sort of hate transfer
how is the fact that it doesnt work with the new wizard hate transfer bugged?The only thing I really want to know here is where I stated that I thought it should work with Wizard only. I'm not confused why it doesn't work with every class except for Wizard, I'm confused why it doesn't work with ANY class...
why shoudl amends work with anyones hate transfer? that would be over powering....if it did, you could absorb over 80% of a scouts generated hate....that's beyond necessary and just selfishSorry, have to use a Yellow font here because it matches my armor... I am honestly not aware of a scout class that contains a 40% hate transfer. I would say this is no more selfish than a Warrior that is able to do T1 DPS (through the buckler AA line) and have their normal hate gain abilities.
having a wizard AND a paladin, maybe I think about these buffs and how they work more.......I could care less if you play every class in the game. That doesn't change the fact that I don't like how the structure of Amends is.
I'd like you to see how I have a different perspective from you, Im looking at this as a wizard first, pally 2ndOk.
The entire point is this........if you have a group, and you have your amends on the healer in your group, because one scout has their hate transfer on you, and the other scout in your group has their hate transfer on you, and then you invite another scout...you would expect them to put their hate transfer on you too.....Of course you probably already know that this too sometimes causes Amends not to work...
If you have a group where 2 of the scouts have their hate transfer on you, and you invite another scout, and they put their hate transfer on you as well....how would you ever know that your amends isnt working? your getting so much hate from the scouts, you would barely need to taunt...so 1: how do you know its bugged 2: you completely missed the point apparentlyI don't know how much experiance you have playing your Pally, but let me put it to you this way. If I have a Warlock and an Assassin together, if I Amend the Warlock, I can lose aggro on long single-target encounters; if I put it on the Assassin, I can lose aggro on multiple mob encounters. I understand that I can get a good amount of hate from scouts, but the argument of "I don't have to taunt" is totally invalid if you're playing with people who are doing their job properly.
Now...you KNOW if you put amends on that scout.....it's not going to work...you KNOW this.....so why is it so difficult to understand that is how the new wizard hate transfer works?Searches previous posts where I have indicated that everything is wonderful with Amends being buggy on Scouts and now I'm shocked that a buggy hate transfer spell has now hit the limit because it applies to a Wizard... nope... can't find it.
amends isnt buggy with scouts, it is well known that amends wont work if you put it on a scout that has their hate transfer on you....if there is a scout in the group, you put amends on someone else.....the only difference is that now you dont put amends on the sorceror as wellOk, we keep coming back to the Wizard, but I really could care less what class we're talking about. The entire post had nothing to do with Wizards and everything to do with Amends. That has been my entire point.
and if you decide to put amends on one of the scouts, arent you going to TELL someone? because you KNOW it isnt going to work unless that scout removes his transfer
Um... yes, and that's my point.
again...I cant really see a point in putting amends on a scoutI can see plenty of reasons to put Amends on a scout.
lets try a metaphor hereI love these and I'm so glad I made it through 8th grade english to know what a Metaphor is.
Thanks! I like metaphors....it's a good word to...like metaframe, and metadata and all that
scout hate transfer + paladin amends = amends not workingCheck... Hey wait, this isn't a Metaphor!
*points down to the math portion*Ah... I see!
so you know that hate transfer + amends = amends not workingYep, I sure do. :smileyhappy:
wizard hate transfer + amends = ?????????? WHY IS THAT SO CONFUSING?????!!!!I give up... why?
Same reason it doest work for scoutsMan, and I thought it had something to do with the robe...
if 2+3=5
I think you could figure out what 3+2=Oh boy, math! Let me try one that demonstrates my point... 41% + 2% = 43% (Not 0%). Maybe we could team up and do some instense math postings to get the point across that Amends is bugged...Round #2 with Math. So we have this issue where you don't think that Paladins should have BOTH hate gains (even though other classes get their hate gain + whatever is put on them). That's fine by me really... How's about we hit a middle ground and say:41% + 2% = 41% (NOT 0%).
not only that,
you say "And as far as going through 20-30 different icons to figure out just who put what up, and trying to tell this person to please don't put your hate transfer on me because I'm the only tank class that you'll have to worry about bugs with, isn't a communication issue, it's a buff issue."
yes....if you wanna go change who amends is on....yes....you need to talk about itOnce again, this is my point. If I'm a Bezerker I don't have to let people know that I'm putting up things that give me hate, same thing with EVERY OTHER CLASS.
Berserkers dont have buffs that affect hate the way amends does....people need to talk about these sorts of things...this is why there are so many people in their 40+ lvls and dont know what other classes doYou're absolutely correct, no other class has the Amends line like we do.
just because you didnt read the update notes on wizards doesnt mean that something is buggedWhy does the update notes on a Wizard have anything to do with Amends being bugged? I have no idea where you got the idea that I thought that Amends should be buggy with every class but a Wizard, but that is NOT what I think. Please review my math section for further details...:smileywink:
no....Im saying amends isnt buggy at all really.....at least...not when it comes to hate transfer classesLet me say it just one more time for giggles... 41% + 2% = 0% Maybe I didn't go to calc 4 in college, but I do see a tiny issue with the above math problem. If you look really closely, you might be able to find the issue. :smileyvery-happy:Footnote:Ok, I think we've had a fun 'bout but I honestly think I see where we disagree. You believe that Amends should totally cancel out when another hate buff is cast, and I believe that if there is a fear about us being total aggro holders that the highest hate transfer should hold instead of being wiped to 0% (otherwise, just let it stack).