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Unread 02-23-2005, 09:51 AM   #33
Tul

 
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From Coytee (in orange):
 

As much as I hate that the real reason the horse was changed in this manner was because of class envy and whining, the rationale behind the change was logical and appropriate.  Opinion

Of course it was my opinion, just like your words are YOUR opinion. Sniping at other posters like this helps nothing.


This was not an advantage It was a convinience. I have never heared a convincing argument for an actual balance issue. In no way did this make me a supreme tank or effect the level of mob I could solo.

I believe you're deluding yourself if you don't believe a run-speed buff wasn't an advantage. At 32%, as many have noted, you were that much safer in running from mobs, for example. And your travel time was greatly reduced. But please consider your own words - if it was merely a convenience, then it wouldn't seem like it should be a big deal now that it's simply LESS convenient.


Honestly if you want to correctly potray the life of a "Knight" we should get the best food free, our rooms free our armor free the finest war horses free as Knights were in the service of the Monarchy and there were many many perks.

I couldn't care less about correctly portraying the life of a "knight." That's a secondary issue that many have held up as a strawman in the face of a compelling logical argument.

 


Most Pallys, it seems to me enjoyed the image of the Knight on His Holy Steed more than anything the Horse minus the speed buff is Lame no self respecting Knoght would ride a gimped horse, I think thats why most are upset. Knights are supposed to be priveleged, they were like the pro-athletes of their time could you see Michale Jordan driving a Saturn ?  He wouldnt for much the same reason. Its still a valid issue, and Ii see both sides of it. I encourage everyone to search your soul as to why you think its so important that the Paladin not be priveledged. A fast desirable Horse fits the Knighly -Paladin image perfect. And for the Record Ill trade my Old horse for a Tower Shield and Hold the Line if anyone can work that.

If the issue is just "image" then you should be fine. The horse is still there, with a 10% run-speed buff. It doesn't matter what Michael Jordan does. You simply have to realize that historical accuracy must bow to game design. I would suggest you search your own soul as to why you would say some players deserve privileges over other players, because that's at the core of the matter, not your (or my) opinion of what a historical knight should be.

 

From Blackweb:


There is something you do not understand.  Other classes get an automatic 10% speed buff when running on foot.  Paladins do not, our Holy Nag is supposed to give it to us.  The Holy Nag is not even a buff, it just makes us even with other classes. Last night while running on foot with a group in nek, I kept getting left behind and no we did not have any scouts in the group.

Drop the Holy Nag and give us the same run buff that other classes have.  If they buff the Holy Nag by 20% that will give us an actual speed buff over other classes normal run speed of 10%.

If you dont believe me, try keeping up with other classes on foot.  You cant.  We are double nerfed, a slow horse and even slower on foot.  The Holy Nag just makes us even with other classes, it is no buff at all.


I tested run speed with a Templar friend tonight. We both ran  without our j-boots, and we both were neck and neck (no sprinting). With my Holy Steed active, I slowly but surely outpaced him. That would seem to lay your assertion to rest. If there is some other problem that is hampering your run speed, then that's a separate issue. But I believe you're wrong if you believe the other classes are faster.

 

Trust me ... I understand. I understand that game balance and fairness must trump flawed understandings of the concept of the EQ2 knight. I also understand that the way this happened was nasty and contentious and yes, I agree that the adjustment came at the behest of many who stooped to whining, and that stings. Be that as it may, the adjustment still needed to be made.

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