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Jezekie · 03-20-2006, 06:36 PM

ShinmaRyche wrote:
Ok, so I have a hard time finding a group, make my own right? Ok. Ive had numerous people blind drop the group after finding out that A. im MT, or B. I only look for one healer. Also, most groups actively seek out a SECOND healer. (as previously mentioned above) Why? Has the quality of player gone down SO MUCH that a second healer is needed?

The quality of players have always been this poor, I never understood the need for two healers for single group exp grinding. To me it was slack from either the one healer already present or other members currently in the group. Step it up a notch and you won't need two healers, even with a brawler as tank.

ShinmaRyche wrote:Masterplan

The masterplan? The "Vision"? Honestly? I don't think there's been one for a long time. I find it quite worrying, least from what I understand, that only one person on the Design team is in charge of class balancing in regards to Combat Arts/Spells, not certain about other aspects of the classes but what I definitely see is a lack of consistency in designs. Even if this isn't the case, there hasn't been any clear case about where Brawlers fits in to the big picture. Moorgard used to be a frequent front guard for the two brawler subclasses and often vocal about where we fit in (Launch -> LU#13), not to mention assorted members of the community often times almost crusading for equality between the tank classes, beating Pro DPS supporters or moaning plate classes with a stick. Looking back, it seems it was mostly a waste of time. Has there come anything good from it? *shrugs*, there hasn't been any support for a long time in the regard that all Fighters are meant to tank equally, I'm certain that mantra has been scrapped and it's now plate tanks, more so Guardians then any other, that are continuously going to be the #1 desired raid tank.Certain individuals of the Brawler community sometimes claimed the classes were fine at raids, which arguably, is the most important aspect for the more vocal Brawlers when it comes to class balance, and that annoys me when the classes end up in situations where there clearly is a huge difference in desirability and usefulness.Moorgard, or anyone from the design team is of course welcome to shine light on this situation.Personally I lost faith in Brawlers being balanced as Raid tanks anytime soon, the Achievement system and Itemization is a clear, to me, sign that things are heading, and have been, in a direction towards completely removing brawlers from tanking raids at the end game.

03-20-2006, 06:36 PM	#22
Jezekie General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,136	ShinmaRyche wrote: Ok, so I have a hard time finding a group, make my own right? Ok. Ive had numerous people blind drop the group after finding out that A. im MT, or B. I only look for one healer. Also, most groups actively seek out a SECOND healer. (as previously mentioned above) Why? Has the quality of player gone down SO MUCH that a second healer is needed? The quality of players have always been this poor, I never understood the need for two healers for single group exp grinding. To me it was slack from either the one healer already present or other members currently in the group. Step it up a notch and you won't need two healers, even with a brawler as tank. ShinmaRyche wrote:Masterplan The masterplan? The "Vision"? Honestly? I don't think there's been one for a long time. I find it quite worrying, least from what I understand, that only one person on the Design team is in charge of class balancing in regards to Combat Arts/Spells, not certain about other aspects of the classes but what I definitely see is a lack of consistency in designs. Even if this isn't the case, there hasn't been any clear case about where Brawlers fits in to the big picture. Moorgard used to be a frequent front guard for the two brawler subclasses and often vocal about where we fit in (Launch -> LU#13), not to mention assorted members of the community often times almost crusading for equality between the tank classes, beating Pro DPS supporters or moaning plate classes with a stick. Looking back, it seems it was mostly a waste of time. Has there come anything good from it? shrugs, there hasn't been any support for a long time in the regard that all Fighters are meant to tank equally, I'm certain that mantra has been scrapped and it's now plate tanks, more so Guardians then any other, that are continuously going to be the #1 desired raid tank.Certain individuals of the Brawler community sometimes claimed the classes were fine at raids, which arguably, is the most important aspect for the more vocal Brawlers when it comes to class balance, and that annoys me when the classes end up in situations where there clearly is a huge difference in desirability and usefulness.Moorgard, or anyone from the design team is of course welcome to shine light on this situation.Personally I lost faith in Brawlers being balanced as Raid tanks anytime soon, the Achievement system and Itemization is a clear, to me, sign that things are heading, and have been, in a direction towards completely removing brawlers from tanking raids at the end game. __________________ ---------------------------- Retired