The general problem with Bruiser and Monk balance at the end game is the fact everything bottlenecks with buffs. Lets look at some general numbers comparing myself to a zerker guildie unbuffed. Avoidance - Me: 81.7 Him 62.3 Mitigation - (Keep in mind *aprox* every 50 ac = 1% additional mitigation) Me 2130 Him 2760 As things stand nowI have him by a good margin on avoidance and he has me by mitigation, what you would expect. Now let's look at the numbers when buffed for a raid. Avoidance - Me: 83.9 Him: 77.2 Mitigation - Me 2710 Him 3780 Now lets throw in the fact that he has me by over 800hp and you can see a serious problem here. I do everything I can to focus on the tank aspect of our class, +hp +ac +sta + agil, and every time I think I'm closing the gap between a plate and a bruiser I just see myself taking 2 steps back. The avoidance is a huge gripe of mine, and while Moorgard claims plates will avoid less after the combat patch, I'll still say that a plate having nearly the same avoidance as the fabled 'avoidance tank' is just wrong....