DPS isn't an issue. Doesn't really matter which guildies we bring things die pretty fast. It still doesn't change the fact that with either a guardian (clink), a zerker (rylon, harokin, or even valiman [our backup to our backup zerkers]), or a pally (banelion) it goes quite a bit faster and smoother.
At this point, Clink gets so bored with the zone he usually pulls 3-4 centurions at a time just to keep the healers on their toes.
Assuming we aren't using a fury and I'm the only one with Agitate, our zerkers can out DPS me, and Clink could do roughly the same DPS (before he respec'd away from the buckler line and before I respec'd to a more tanking friendly setup). This is DPS when being the MT of the group.
Bring along Michael (our bruiser) and not only does he tank HoF better but does more DPS along the way.
Noone, least of all me, is saying we can't do HoF. A brigand or swashy can tank HoF just fine. I no longer view HoF has a true measuring stick. But that's mostly because the level of gear I have now makes it a relative cake walk now.
With that said, what's his face that you spawn on the table. He can still give some problems and still has a good chance to kill me if the healer isn't paying attention. Throw any of our mitigation tanks in though and our healer could be taking a nap and they still wouldn't have much chance of dying. Half the time when one of them is tanking, TS goes something like this. "blah blah blah, joke, laughing, blah blah...Oh hey, is my health going down? (healer) Oh yeah I should probably throw in a heal." When it's me in the same situation. Healer usually goes, "Oh yeah, I should probably heal." after I'm dead.

Meh, enough whining. It hasn't gotten so bad yet that I'll be betraying over to Bruiser. But I do think about it every day. Especially having played a level 70 Bruiser.
Regards,
Croaker
Message Edited by Sslarrga on 07-05-2006 03:52 PM