I bought them both, thanks for the comments guys. As for my guild, it is only fair to charge for raid loot no matter how many of the same classes you have. For example 2 paladins are at a raid and a master drops that they both need, one of them will get charged points for winning the item like normal, but just because there is no other berserker I should get them for free? That is not fair at all in my eyes. Oh and btw when I examined the Master 1 Destructive Rage it was only a 30hp difference but when I scribed it and casted it, it was alot more, I don't have the correct numbers but the examine lies, which doesn't surprise me.