Allowin wrote:
umm come on man. make your mind up. thats your exact quote. Yup, and notices how it says "balanced as melee DPS". Not equal DPS to every other melee DPS class.
and how are we balanced? tell me a guard is balanced with a monk in dps? or a bruiser? im talking about fighters. we arent talking scouts. i mean F-I-G-H-T-E-R-S. get that?
thats exactly what im doing here. sony wants us balanced, we are balanced...TANKS. guardians dont have 1/10th the dps of a bruiser or monk. and dont have 1/2 the utility (usefull utility) as a pally or SK. Wow go figure. Other non-guardians and I tried to convince guardians that after LU13 they needed increased DPS/utility. They wanted nothing of it. They wanted defense/tanking increases, they said "who cares about DPS and utility, I'm a guardian". You only have yourselves to thank for your current situation. whos they? im not here posting for "them" or "they" im posting MY opinions. im a guardian. if sony wanted fighters to be equal, lets be equal. all around. deciding to make guardians low end everything but tanking was not my idea, it was sony. im sure not going to "thank myself" for that. MG has already stated that guards will never be "uber tanks" again. im fine with that, lets all tank the same. i dont care. but lets all be equal in everything, not just tanking. my whole thing is that unless i want to be in a uber raid guild and MT raid mobs, im bottom tier fighter. guards tank the same as any other fighter in groups. so why have a class that adds almost no dps. a few worthless group buffs and one you have to wait on between every fight to regen mana? and what if i DO want to be in a uber raid guild. theres only 1 MT in a raid. and 23 other classes. so what am i supposed to do? hope the MT calls in sick or forgets to show up? so i can actually play my toon? and not have to sit out because i dont iffer anything to a raid unless i am MT?
so im posting my opinions and what needs to be changed to balance us as a melee DPS class. Now you want to be a melee DPS class? here you go with your spins again. yes. i want to be equal DPS with the rest of the fighters!!! again F-I-G-H-T-E-R-S!!!! is that too much to ask for? we are all equal tanks. so yippie for that. im cool with it. we all tank alike. now give me some decent DPS so i can have something to do if im not tanking. is that clear? or can you find another spin on that quote?
whats good for the goose is good for the blah blah blah It wasn't, according to guardians, prior to LU13. What was good for guardians... was good for guardians - ie being the best tank - and if you didn't like it, they informed you to "roll a guardian". well you know what. this aint pre LU13. this is post LU13. get that straight. pre LU13 we were fine with no dps or utility cause we were the "uber tanks" but now were not. as i stated, im fine with that. sony will not ever go back to guardians being the only choice for tanks. so lets move past that. lets move to post LU13. we are all equal tanks. so what exactly is my roll if im not MT? equip my DW pom poms and cheer for the raid to "knock em back, push em back, knock em wayyy back?" EVERY other fighter has a ability if they are not MT. bruiser and monks can DPS. pally and SK can do some dps and add utility, (heals, wards, evac ect ect) so what is my role if im not MT? sit in a group and pray the MT looses aggro and my group members catch a AE so i can pop my guard sphere or use one of my "l33t" protection skills and double the damage we take?
now tell me you honestly think that guardians are equal to a monk or bruiser in dps. or equal to a SK or pally in utility? Nope. I've never said that either. Guardians are better tanks than all of those though. ok, answer the question. tell me you believe WE are balanced!!. you claim we are still uber tanks. well were not. are we good tanks? sure. i dont complain about not being able to tank. i can. but so can you. and so can johnny bruiser. or paul pally, or jimmy SK. so answer the question. do you think we are balanced? its a simple yes or no question. do you think guardians are balanced with other fighters? if you think so, THEN give me a example. if you dont think so, give me some of your ideas on what you think needs to be done to cure that.