<div></div>Is relic armor only dropped on raids or is it a quest reward?  If it is a quest reward, where do the quests start?Thanks,<div></div><p>Message Edited by Soefje on <span class=date_text>12-15-2006</span> <span class=time_text>04:55 PM</span>

Only dropped on raids. Except that the items themselves aren't dropped. It's items called Relic [type] [slot], which you have to give to Lord Nagafen's armorer in solusek along with 3 gems of a specific type.<div></div>

                 Are the patterns no trade? <div></div>

yes, no-trade

I have a question about the relic armors. Which is better the Dark Scourge or the Naggy craffted one ? <div></div>

Depends on the piece.  The relic boots are the best I've seen for us SK's with a larger amount of mit vs the drop boots.  But the SK helm that drops in labs is better then the relic.<p>Message Edited by Margen on <span class=date_text>12-20-2006</span> <span class=time_text>09:36 AM</span>

<P>you can get the occasional relic drop in  HoF... a group zone</P> <P> </P>

<DIV>Really, wow I've been thru Hof numerous times and never seen one drop.  It might be some tiny tiny small chance to drop I guess.</DIV>

I'm gonna have to throw the BS flag on Relic droping in Halls of Fate singel group instance..... anyone have anything to back that up?<div></div>

<P>I have to honestly say, for the avid and full time raider, in my opnion relic armor is kinda over rated. Dont get me wrong, id even like a few more relic pieces in place of some of my [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] legendary slots i currently have. but there are much more usefull item's that are better for us sk's. but if i had a choice between relic and blackcoat, id go bloackcoat or a nice mix and match of both</P> <P> </P> <P>Listat Shevi`it <70 Shadowknight></P> <P>Champion of the Shadow</P>

<P>Relic only drops in the KoS T7 raid zones, its more commonly found in Lab's and DT. It can also be found in rare drops in lyceum and or halls of seeing.</P> <P>Listat Shevi`it <70 shadowknight></P> <P>Champion of the Shadow</P> <P> </P>

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Listat666 wrote:<BR> <P>I have to honestly say, for the avid and full time raider, in my opnion relic armor is kinda over rated. Dont get me wrong, id even like a few more relic pieces in place of some of my [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] legendary slots i currently have. but there are much more usefull item's that are better for us sk's. but if i had a choice between relic and blackcoat, id go bloackcoat or a nice mix and match of both</P> <P> </P> <P>Listat Shevi`it <70 Shadowknight></P> <P>Champion of the Shadow</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>With the changes in Mit curve, the difference isnt that huge to be honest.  I use both my relic BP and the Blackcoat for the difference in reisit.  But relic isn't bad when ou are in the dps role, it has a load of Int now and the BP and legs have a nice spell proc.

I use them both like Blackoath as well. Switch em up as needed. I prefer the claymore shoulders over the relic or skourge knight however (even more so before the mit changes though). Wish I could adorn em though <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Is the Blackcoat set also only from raid zones?<div></div>

<DIV>Yes labs ... the BP and pants though are really the only ones I found useful.  If memory serves me right ... hands and forarms are legendary, and not the great, and the shoulders are Inq only.  SK's have class specific shoulders and helm ... sorry don't have computer up and can't remember name ... still waking up <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />.</DIV>

Scourge Knight...both items drop off names in Labs.

I have "heard" rumors of the 2 guards outside of Halls of Seeing dropping relic sometimes /shrug<div></div>

Might of been just a rumor (meaning someone was pulling your leg) or it might of been a temprory loot table bug.  If that someone had a very good day <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />.

Well I heard they have a chance to drop relic like the mobs inside..I know for a fact these 2 guards drop plat tho <div></div>