<p>going to amger alot of the free people by finally deciding to do this. if you gave people the option to up their plat cap nobody would have used this in the first place18p at level 90 isnt enough to sneeze without going broke. you really should raise it back up or throw the free to play people a bone since they can no longer trade the repair mats as currency.</p>

<p>Repair mats shouldn't be a currency in the first place.</p>

<p>i fully understand that they shouldnt be, but SoE spouts out about how you can totally go F2P but at level 90 you can only hold 18 plat. and for a year and 3 months they let players use the repair mats. im gold so it wasnt a problem to me. but i did have alot of people buy stuff off of me using them that no longer will be able to there for less business for me.</p>

<p>Looks like SOE had the choice to make the heirloom or set them so they can't be sold for the same amount you buy them for.</p><p>Either way something needed to be done to stop them being used as currency. This seems to be the least problematic fix.</p>

<p>Maybe so Vin, but here is the thing. They HAVE been, and people had stocked up possibly. I mean really, was SOE losing that much cash from people using these as tender? Is the plat cap what SOE wants to use as the primary driver to get people to sub? Or, is this another case of SOE picking a bad spot to try to squeeze every last drop out of its players by nickle and diming you to death?</p>

<p><cite>Ikoda@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>...SoE spouts out about how you can totally go F2P...</p></blockquote><p>No they don't. They say that they are so convinced you will like the game enough to subscribe that they are willing to let you play for free for as long as you need to agree with them.</p>

<p>They've been used as currency because many of the higher tier items and rares have been priced over what a bronze/silver member is allowed to hold. Not sure I'm with SoE on this one, specially with taking the harvestables out of the marketplace. Good for business I would guess.</p>

<p>An exploit was fixed. Enough said.</p>

<p>The original caps were fine for a brand new server.  They are a joke on a Live server.  A cap of 1-2pp/level is probably needed.  It might not be a bad idea to charge SC to increase it though.</p>

<p><cite>Ikoda@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>i fully understand that they shouldnt be, but SoE spouts out about how you can totally go F2P but at level 90 you can only hold 18 plat. and for a year and 3 months they let players use the repair mats. im gold so it wasnt a problem to me. but i did have alot of people buy stuff off of me using them that no longer will be able to there for less business for me.</p></blockquote><p>Letting stuff slide for years until some game change makes them get around to fixing it is a common occurence.  Don't let thing going unfixed even when known let you believe it will always be there.   If it is a  "workaround" then it wasn't intended and plan for the time it will be taken away.</p>

<p>This is still a sub game. SOE will continue to make it hard for people to play for free. We have known this on Freeport for a long time, it's not F2P just a very long free trial. SOE make a lot of money from subscriptions, the plat limit helps keep driving people at high levels to those subscriptions.</p><p>They really don't want you at 90 and still playing free.</p>

<p>Just create your own guild. No longer a problem.</p>

<p>Can't you just switch to something else? Ethereal sandpaper or something? Beats me, I rarely pay attention to stuff like that since I'm a sub. I spend my days mostly forgetting to breathe though.</p>

<p>might be able to make a killing for items on the broker at 18p</p>

<p>where are you guys reading all this stuff?</p><p>i've always thought that 18 plat was too low of an amount.  it means that a silver cannot buy a guild hall, even at level 90.</p>

<p><cite>Scrag@Befallen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Can't you just switch to something else? Ethereal sandpaper or something? Beats me, I rarely pay attention to stuff like that since I'm a sub. I spend my days mostly forgetting to breathe though.</p></blockquote><p>Pristines were nice as they were 60g each and stacked to 200. Efficient on bank space.</p><p>I know I have guildie who does 100 plat a week in adornment sales. She will be hit hard, but this is closing what was effectively an exploit in a method that means those with huge stocks of pristines won't lose plat.</p>

<p>Some of the ftp restrictions are silly, but suggesting they change item restrictions to make it easier for people to hide plat from the restrictions probably isn't the way to go.</p><p>Explain why the straight line plat limit from 1-90 doesn't translate within the game itself. (I agree it doesn't, but you aren't trying to convince me.)</p>

<p><cite>Lempo@Everfrost wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>An exploit was fixed. Enough said.</p></blockquote><p>Build a better ratongatrap, and the ratonga will just get cleverer.</p><p>This feel-good fix will be good for about 1.37 minutes, if that.</p>

<p><cite>Tigress wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>where are you guys reading all this stuff?</p><p>i've always thought that 18 plat was too low of an amount.  it means that a silver cannot buy a guild hall, even at level 90.</p></blockquote><p>Now what would happen if you went gold for a month (hasn't SOE said you will be able to buy a sub with SC-- which you can buy at 1/2 price sales, etc.) and bought a guild hall then went back to silver?</p><p>Would you still own and have access to it?  It wouldn't prevent you from going in there after you went back to silver, right?  It would effectively be the whole guild's at that point, wouldn't it?</p>

<p>There are other items that can be traded that can be used as currency. While the repair material was probably the easiest and most costly to use, there is tons of other items that I forsee being used in the furture.</p>

<p><cite>Senkai@Splitpaw wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>There are other items that can be traded that can be used as currency. While the repair material was probably the easiest and most costly to use, there is tons of other items that I forsee being used in the furture.</p></blockquote><p>YUP<img src="/eq2/images/smilies/47941865eb7bbc2a777305b46cc059a2.gif" border="0" /> as the whole world becomes heirloom and fades off into the sunset the plat cap on freebies was maintained.</p>

<p><cite>Onorem wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Some of the ftp restrictions are silly, but suggesting they change item restrictions to make it easier for people to hide plat from the restrictions probably isn't the way to go.</p><p>Explain why the straight line plat limit from 1-90 doesn't translate within the game itself. (I agree it doesn't, but you aren't trying to convince me.)</p></blockquote><p>What they should have done was to instead offer a gold cap per character unlocker like every other F2P game from LOTRO to DCUO.</p><p>Simply making these items heirloom won't make people pay up.</p>

<p><cite>deadcrickets2 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Onorem wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Some of the ftp restrictions are silly, but suggesting they change item restrictions to make it easier for people to hide plat from the restrictions probably isn't the way to go.</p><p>Explain why the straight line plat limit from 1-90 doesn't translate within the game itself. (I agree it doesn't, but you aren't trying to convince me.)</p></blockquote><p>What they should have done was to instead offer a gold cap per character unlocker like every other F2P game from LOTRO to DCUO.</p><p>Simply making these items heirloom won't make people pay up.</p></blockquote><p>How much would you pay...per character?</p>

<p>id pay 10 bucks to raise it in 100p incriments</p>

<p><cite>Detor wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>deadcrickets2 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Onorem wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Some of the ftp restrictions are silly, but suggesting they change item restrictions to make it easier for people to hide plat from the restrictions probably isn't the way to go.</p><p>Explain why the straight line plat limit from 1-90 doesn't translate within the game itself. (I agree it doesn't, but you aren't trying to convince me.)</p></blockquote><p>What they should have done was to instead offer a gold cap per character unlocker like every other F2P game from LOTRO to DCUO.</p><p>Simply making these items heirloom won't make people pay up.</p></blockquote><p>How much would you pay...per character?</p></blockquote><p>LOTRO charges 495 per character.  DCUO does increments for small amounts.  Other F2P games have them from $5 to $10 per character.</p><p>You always have to price based on market.  Simple business.</p>

<p><cite>Detor wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>deadcrickets2 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Onorem wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Some of the ftp restrictions are silly, but suggesting they change item restrictions to make it easier for people to hide plat from the restrictions probably isn't the way to go.</p><p>Explain why the straight line plat limit from 1-90 doesn't translate within the game itself. (I agree it doesn't, but you aren't trying to convince me.)</p></blockquote><p>What they should have done was to instead offer a gold cap per character unlocker like every other F2P game from LOTRO to DCUO.</p><p>Simply making these items heirloom won't make people pay up.</p></blockquote><p>How much would you pay...per character?</p></blockquote><p>I wouldn't pay...per character.</p><p>I'd probably pay $15/month or so for all my characters if I trusted the game's producer.</p>

<p><cite>Onorem wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I wouldn't pay...per character.</p><p>I'd probably pay $15/month or so for all my characters if I trusted the game's producer.</p></blockquote><p>I'm not sure I would pay that much. I think I would maybe pay $120 a year and then scream in happiness should that trusted producer actually give back half of that over time as stipend.</p><p>So, $5 a month for unlimited platinum and maybe a few other benefits too sounds about fair.</p><p>If only. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

<p>lol I wondered how long it would be before we had this thread - the game's not even back up yet and here we are...</p><p>Where are all the people who were moaning about entitlement and stuff now?</p><p>Pay your sub and the problem goes away <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

<p><cite>Onorem wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Detor wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>deadcrickets2 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Onorem wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Some of the ftp restrictions are silly, but suggesting they change item restrictions to make it easier for people to hide plat from the restrictions probably isn't the way to go.</p><p>Explain why the straight line plat limit from 1-90 doesn't translate within the game itself. (I agree it doesn't, but you aren't trying to convince me.)</p></blockquote><p>What they should have done was to instead offer a gold cap per character unlocker like every other F2P game from LOTRO to DCUO.</p><p>Simply making these items heirloom won't make people pay up.</p></blockquote><p>How much would you pay...per character?</p></blockquote><p>I wouldn't pay...per character.</p><p>I'd probably pay $15/month or so for all my characters if I trusted the game's producer.</p></blockquote><p>grats, you can!  sub for $15/mo and you can have all the unlimited plat you want.</p><p>your suggestion is cost-prohibitive.  they would need something in btwn giving it away for free, too high initial cost and a recurring fee.</p><p>a one-time unlocker, per character, to raise it in incrementals would be better.</p>

<p><cite>Tigress wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Onorem wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Detor wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>deadcrickets2 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Onorem wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Some of the ftp restrictions are silly, but suggesting they change item restrictions to make it easier for people to hide plat from the restrictions probably isn't the way to go.</p><p>Explain why the straight line plat limit from 1-90 doesn't translate within the game itself. (I agree it doesn't, but you aren't trying to convince me.)</p></blockquote><p>What they should have done was to instead offer a gold cap per character unlocker like every other F2P game from LOTRO to DCUO.</p><p>Simply making these items heirloom won't make people pay up.</p></blockquote><p>How much would you pay...per character?</p></blockquote><p>I wouldn't pay...per character.</p><p>I'd probably pay $15/month or so for all my characters if I trusted the game's producer.</p></blockquote><p>grats, you can!  sub for $15/mo and you can have all the unlimited plat you want.</p><p>your suggestion is cost-prohibitive.  they would need something in btwn giving it away for free, too high initial cost and a recurring fee.</p><p>a one-time unlocker, per character, to raise it in incrementals would be better.</p></blockquote><p>There's a reason I picked 15/month in my comment. You seem to have skipped the second half of my statement. I'll happily pay my sub once I feel like I can trust the direction that SJ is taking this game in. Right now, I don't.</p>