<p>Is Improved Moderation working for you? Its not increasing my HG and not decreasing my group members HG on our Persona window. I am confused about this, is it some kind of hidden bonus or maybe its simply broken on PvP server (I am on Nagafen)?</p>

<p>Are you casting the buff?</p><p>Its working on PVE.</p><p>I can't say its actually helping significantly for multi-encounter aggro, but it applies and shows up on my group's stats.</p>

<p>Yes, I cast the buff. I can see it on me and on my groupmates. I even tried to reset to default UI, reset AA, different equip setups, mount or not. Its not giving me hategain.</p>

<p>Sounds like a pvp bug then.</p>

<p>Working for me. Was in a group the other night turning well over what we used to be able to turn without a dirge and only once or twice did the mob(s) look away from me.</p>

<p>It does not show up on the persona window - that is typically where your dirge/swashy/coercer buffs and jewelry will show up.  Improved moderations seems to be working great for me - I have a new aoe/dps spec I am using as mentioned on the other thread and am pulling several unlinked encounters, throwing up stone sphere and grabbing everything onto me + reinfocement and blue aoes.  I am almost as comfortable with wild mass pulls now on my guard as I am on my pally and SK - not quite but very close.</p><p>One thing I cannot figure out for sure though is if moderate will stack with improved moderate as both seem to be castable at th same time - in pvp I will put moderate on the healer due to the way it works in pvp on top of improved grp moderate.  Cannot tell for sure if it stacks or not though.</p><p>I have noticed that improved unyielding will seems hit or miss.  not sure if it might be a pvp bug or if I am taking some massive damage right after it goes off - often when I expect it to go off I just die even when it is up.  With the new borked resist mechanism on pvp servers I am taking massive damage from toons who have no buisiness damaging me as I see no pvp gear buffs up in their windows and they are green con - where as before these toons would barely scratch me and only = geared players could harm my guard.  Every grp taunt is massive pain incoming now even when buffed to 80% resists.</p>

Just tell ur group mates to look at their hate mod.. It is showing up from what I see and yes they do stack.

<p>They deffinetly stack</p>

<p><cite>Dusei@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Is Improved Moderation working for you? Its not increasing my HG and not decreasing my group members HG on our Persona window. I am confused about this, is it some kind of hidden bonus or maybe its simply broken on PvP server (I am on Nagafen)?</p></blockquote><p>On nagafen too. Also not getting the " +5% hate gain " added to persona value, and " -25% " is not being added to group members value.</p><p> edit : when i examine the spell it is default ticked for pvp. perhaps that is stopping the pve values being applied. Either way it needs fixing.</p>

I've seen it not apply here and there but recasting it has always fixed the issue, for me at least.