Can anyone enlighten me as to how we're supposed to kill in ROK when we can barely survive after killing the mobs in the first zone please? I've tried every combination possible and I can't seem to figure out a way to freaking survive. This is bloody ridiculous!!!I have very good spells and it's barely doing anything to these intro monsters.

Better gear, is all I have read.  Legendary or Fabled gear/weapons and adornments were recommended in threads.

Heh, I'm almost full fabled!!! This is impossible. I have to constantly keep the reactive up or I *will* die!!!

<p>I guess you will have to group up for a time <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" width="15" height="15" /> if you are soloing - hey, I can come along and be your healer <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

<p>I'm not having any problems killing mobs in the Kylong Plains.  Being an Ogre I got lucky and have the shoulder smash which is a 2.5 second stun.  I also have Hammersmite which is another 2.4 second stun, and our stun spell which is a 7 second stun.  I had to break out my Hammer of the Tribunal (from Nizara) which procs a stun as well.  For adornments I have the shoulder spikes which procs a small damage shield.I was doing okay last night I think.  Healing myself wasn't a problem for me.  I hope it gets better for you.  </p>

I found that if I kept my reactive up at all times, I was ok... so basically I'd do:Pull with stunDebuffDOTPut reactive upStart Heroic OpSmiteSmiteReactive againDot againdo the heroic op stuff again <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />It's a mana killer, but that's ok! At least I got some stuff done. All said and done, even with the lag and overcrowding, I got half my level last night on my own!

I basically shoot the debuffs on the pull. Pop the reac when needed. Don't forget the stuns if needed as well. If power is an issue, nearly all the starting quests there are the docks give FT gear. Unless the FT cap has risen, I'm probably capped out the wazoo so power wasn't an issue. Mainly though it's working your smite, strike, and axiom. If you picked up the STA kos aa, work that hammer strike in as well. Last night I completely forgot about the melee aoe dwarf racial.The only difficulty I had was the intense lag in Plains. I mean it's to be expected with everyone hitting the zone, but there was a time when I'd fire off Sign only to have it click through before the next cast even registered. It cleared up later in the night though and it was pretty smooth sailing after that.

<p>Those are good tips - </p><p>I started with the involuntary heal (cuz I don't want to die), then mark, spurn, forced humility, warring axiom, then all my strikes and smites as they become ready.</p><p>I basically only got to 5%, killing spiders right there at the dock.  The group I had planned on running around with logged because I had to buy the retail (preorder did not come though) and download all that.  I missed out last night but will be there tonight.</p>

Yeah I saw a few people in your guild running around last night in the docks area.My signature is old, but you can look me up as "Livanya" on Permafrost. I'm in Silent Redemption now.

<p>There were lots of guilds I hadn't seen hide nor hair from in ages!!  It was nice to see some older guild names around; got my sentimental side all teary-eyed.</p><p>Thanks for that - I will add you when I log in!  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p> Tuttiax, I got the first piece of gear there- that necklace with +10 in-combat regen - I was pleasantly surprised by that stat, even tho I had to take off my +100H/+100Power to replace it - that 10+ makes a difference, I bet.</p><p> Oh yeah, I need to remember to replace my high mitigation helm before attacking - I already left my old goggles on accidentally - /doh</p>

I'm almost fully KoS fabled, so I felt quite confident taking stuff down in RoK.  But I found things a bit tougher than I expected.  It seems the mobs hit harder in this zone than mobs of a similar level in bonemire or loping plains.  Or could it be that I've become too used to fighting blue mobs of 3 levels or so below me, and that fighting even cons is harder than I remember?  Very difficult to say.  One thing that suggests it must be the mobs (rather than recalling the past through rose-tinted spectacles) is the equipment in RoK seems a LOT better.  This probably means the new zones represent a step up in class and difficulty, and the new equipment on offer is one of the safest ways to make the transition to T8.  The bad news is that my fabled gear will soon be outdated, but the good news is I guess it will be easy enough to get myself kitted out in better.Whether the fights seem harder as a result of memory or harder content, one thing I do know from fighting these RoK mobs is that healing suddenly seems more important again.  A combination of reactives, stuns and dazes seem to do the trick for me, with the occasional hammer smite-direct heal combo if things get too hair raising.  The 2 extra attacks I got are also useful; I got a new one from the erudite racial tree and the other from diverting AA points from smites in EoF tree to the KoS intelligence line.  Diverting the AA points has increased my casting speed by 12% or so, therefore lessening the impact of losing casting speed from smites while also increasing my casting speed across the board, which in turn improves my curing, healing etc.  In other words, a net increase in all my abilities (and I can always stick the points back in smites as I gain AA levels).It seems to be working so far, but I would nevertheless hate to be taking on a ^^^ heroic if these are the soloable encounters.  Still, time will tell

<p>Hey,</p><p> I don't have much problem killing solo in RoK and im far from full fabled. I don't have to put reactive at every fight. My spells are AD3 and Master 1. Your problem is probably your AA set up. I'm spec'ed to be a battle templar (which solos better). If your full fabled im guessing your a raiding templar so your probably not spec'ed for solo. You may want to re-spec for a battle templar if you plan to solo or try to duo or group more if you dont want to change your AA set up. But im telling you if you plan to solo a lot battle templar spec is the way to go, hey im doing great and im far from full fabled, as a full fabled templar with a AA solo set up your gonna be doing great for sure.</p><p> Domanz</p>

Granted the mobs are a little tougher, but you shouldn't be dying to a Kylong Plain solo mob. Use your control spells (btw, they are not upgraded until 75 & 76) and the masters for the the stun and daze are cheap (On BB they are less than 1.5p). I put out 500+ dps on mobs under 72 in the new xp solo and have very little fear dying. Generally what I do is lead off with a stun, debuff them, then cycle through my spells while bashing it's brains out. I do have some fabled gear, but I use a lot of treasured +spell gear and I use the Smite line (EoF) and Sta/Int AA line (KoS).

Soloing in RoK as a Templar is slower than watching paint dry :/  I am fully EoF fabled with my SoD and mastered out and I was about ready to fall asleep at the keys. These mobs have insane amount of hit points. So its not survivability for me, but total snoozeville soloing while I am LFG.  Think I am going to respec down the smite line while I'm leveling and see if that helps any.

I don't find fights to be that bad on the solo quests. I'm in mostly EoF fabled, granted. But I think a big key is that you need to max your DPS. I respeced my AAs for max DPS. That's 70 points in KoS (STR, AGI, STA, INT) down to the third abilities. I took the EoF spell DPS line with the remaining 30 points. I will respec back once we start raiding again... For the actual fights, I equip a two hander and just nuke away. I don't debuff at all. I don't heal; I just keep reverence up all the time and that heals me to full while I'm spamming nukes. I was doing about 600 DPS average this way. I would say the solo mobs last about 20 seconds.

Yeah I'm raid specced (agi/sta line) and spend most of my non-raiding time in groups.   That means I have 10 AA points in the last 2 effects of the agi line, neither of which does me the slightest bit of good while soloing (they don't <i>directly</i> help me when grouping either - holy shield usually goes on a bard or 2nd healer and shield ally on the MT).But the re-arranging of my AA points has made things a lot easier - the casting time improvements I gave up from the EoF smites have been more or less compensated for by my decision to get some points in the intelligence line (hence ~12% casting speed).  I haven't yet died in Kylong and the at worst, I found my health going into the yellow.  Still somewhat tougher than equivalent zones but certainly doable.

<cite>Livanya@Permafrost wrote:</cite><blockquote>I found that if I kept my reactive up at all times, I was ok... so basically I'd do:Pull with stunDebuffDOTPut reactive upStart Heroic OpSmiteSmiteReactive againDot againdo the heroic op stuff again <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" width="15" height="15" />It's a mana killer, but that's ok! At least I got some stuff done. All said and done, even with the lag and overcrowding, I got half my level last night on my own!</blockquote>This is unfortunately my exact same strategy for the solo questlines in Kylong Plains.  Unfortunately, we stink TOTALLY at soloing.  It's just not fun at all playing my Templar at the moment.  But we fight on!!!!

<cite>Niuf@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>Soloing in RoK as a Templar is slower than watching paint dry :/  I am fully EoF fabled with my SoD and mastered out and I was about ready to fall asleep at the keys. These mobs have insane amount of hit points. So its not survivability for me, but total snoozeville soloing while I am LFG.  Think I am going to respec down the smite line while I'm leveling and see if that helps any.</blockquote>It does trust me. If you go smite wrath line and pick up some of the +Spell gear you should be fine. I don't even have SoD I use one of the beat sticks off Treeah or Grizfazzle's. I use the 5 piece bonus from EoF fabled to get the +50 dmg/heal, the arms out of SoF that give +40 dmg, Electrified Greaves off CWMF +35. +20 Earing off one of the RoK quests in KP, +40 Censor off RoK Quest in KP. +30 Wrist from the Mask questline in LP, +20 Wrist in Acad, SolRo Cloak. (I am a DPS spec'd raid templar = mage group templar <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />)I hate to be vague, but I have been up all night and I am running on autopilot with Redbull and hot pockets..

<p>lol redbull and hot pocket</p>

<cite>sfarugger wrote:</cite><blockquote>This is unfortunately my exact same strategy for the solo questlines in Kylong Plains.  Unfortunately, we stink TOTALLY at soloing.  It's just not fun at all playing my Templar at the moment.  But we fight on!!!!</blockquote><p>I've soloed almost completely thus far and I've had few problems so far in Kylong or Fens.  </p><p>First off, we're on hiatus from raiding for the first couple weeks of the expansion, so I respecced to a mix between Intelligence and Stamina lines, then started back down Agility line.  I'm currently at AGI 4-4-8-5, STA 4-4-8, INT 4-4-4-8.  In Templar, I'm built around Blessings/Smite Wrath.</p><p>I'm pulling with Spurn, using enhanced Punish Corruption/Warring Axiom, then tossing a daze or stun (depends on whether or not it's a caster), and just work on smite-strike-smite, axiom, smite-strike-smite, corruption, smite-strike-smite, with the occasional heal or stun as needed.</p>

<p>im able to kill 3-4 mobs at a time.</p><p>I have the reactive piecing adornment on my shoulders, and shield, that helps a lot</p><p>Dont forget your OOB signet of darkness ring, that thing procs a 1k hit and 5-800 heal, it procs often.</p><p>I am full STR, Full INT line, and 4/4/8 in STA line.  Spell crits, casting speed, immunity to interrupts (the best line for soloing), and 100% melee crits along with the Vrak club make for about 1k solo dps, maybe a bit more.</p><p>Also, i have a bit better gear than anyone on the server (full fabled/avatar loots) but still even in some KOS, EoF fabled you should be doing alright, dont forget our daze and stun spells, you can keep a single mob pretty much locked down for half the time with these 2.</p><p>Also, our avoidance is so poor, STR line makes good sense, coupled with the 2 adornments that deal dmg when youre attacked, make for a very decent AA setup for soloing, i suggest you try it out if youre dying cuz youre getting interrupted a lot.</p>

<p>Since I just have Kos Fable I was a bit worried about Rok after reading this thread.</p><p>So far in Rok this seems to be a fault. the mobs in Rok so far have seem very easy. At level 70 two level 72 mobs wasn't even reason to use the panic reactives. I usually pre cast my group reactive then pull with my damage over time. Then spurn and after that its standard combat... keep the reactive up. Nuke and crush. I seldom go under 90% in health.</p><p>So far I been 97% solo I Rok. </p><p>/Hugs Tash</p>

<p>I noticed that once I hit 71, I am able to solo with greater efficiency, but with achievments, I added to my cleric spells.</p><p>I was having lots of fun with Yeti's, testing out different combinations. </p>

<p>Well, i cannot see any problems with soloing if you dump the raid AA and go for any of two DPS builds</p><p>hitting 71 will easen up, because we get the update for our Level 35 DoT which can be empowered by Templar AA</p><p>Smite-Line and Compliance Line is absolutely required.</p><p>Stunned and dazed Mobs do lose dps =)</p><p> Str Agi Sta or Agi Sta Int at least remember that the Str and Sta Spells crit because they are Melee.</p><p>+ the eventual Spell from Racials... its not that great soloing but i am half through the Fens and died only once (5 Mobs are a bit too much =) )</p>

Ive been soloing pretty easily but it seems a lot of folks are tryin to keep their "healer" or "raid" specs while soloing. Face it this is a new expansion so you will have to dump everything until you get to 80.Personally I went with a STR/INT line spec like soSTR 4-4-6-8-1 (now at 4-4-8-8-1)INT 4-4-7-8-1 (now 4-4-8-8-1)Then I went into Blessings and Smith Wrath. On the Smite Wrath line make sure you put a max out your 2 dots and 2 DD.When I go into combat I always open up with my two dots, then debuffs maybe a reactive, back to dots, make sure you get in a involuntary restoration before death. Stun only lasts a lil bit but remember we have a Daze spell that is much better.Also dont forget there is nothin wrong with max buffing yourself out when soloing. Throw on stoneskin, hp buff, heal proc and go to town.That is just my 2 cents but I have soloed all the way through RoK and am now in Jarsath doin those quests without any real complaints.

<p>I have mostly KoS armor and crappy jewelry (much of it replaced doing RoK quests solo), my AA is probably specked all wrong as I had no clue what I was doing and not bothered to redo it.</p><p>Still I find soloing in RoK fairly easy for even cons and down, (or yellow casters thet try to get in a nuke duel).</p><p>I keep reactives up, full self buff with adept 3, melee, nuke, nuke, dot and intercession as needed. I pull with a hex doll to slow the mobs but I can take them unslowed though it is tougher. Generally I keep health/power drop balanced to optimize regen recovery though I never allow health below 50% intentionally.</p><p>Still baffles me when people say Temps can't solo and particularly when they say it cant be done in RoK.</p><p> BTW, don't waste your time doing HO's as a soloing templar. Being jacked into an inefficient heal instead of relying on reactives is crazy not to mention the wasted time doing it when you could be nuking or doting. </p>

<p>Wow...not understanding what's happening to you...but my expereince so far has been completely opposite.</p><p> First...pre-ROK I almost never took on anything white and above.  Green and sometimes Blue only.</p><p>I first noticed with the spiders..."Hey I'm fighting a White spider and winning fairly easy."  Then I tried a Yellow...and won!</p><p>My techinique was not always the same but typically along these lines:</p><p>1. Always debuff first...Spurn</p><p>2. Glorious Intercession...the one that heals every time you're attacked</p><p>3. Warring axiom...DOT</p><p>4. My first Heroic...Holy Strike and Judging Smite</p><p>5. I kick off Mark and IR.</p><p>6. Heroic</p><p>I just keep doing heroics and a heal if need be and win everytime practically.</p><p>If I get adds it gets dicey very quickly.  </p><p>I was pleasantly surprised when I took down my first white and yellow.</p><p>I have decent armor but not uber-armor.</p>

<cite>The Sayyadina wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Those are good tips - </p><p>I started with the involuntary heal (cuz I don't want to die), then mark, spurn, forced humility, warring axiom, then all my strikes and smites as they become ready.</p><p>I basically only got to 5%, killing spiders right there at the dock.  The group I had planned on running around with logged because I had to buy the retail (preorder did not come though) and download all that.  I missed out last night but will be there tonight.</p></blockquote>I pretty much do things the same as you. Found KP to be very, very easy to solo in and I'm still spec'd for raiding. I will, however, change my AAs to be more solo compatible. My guild is still raiding EOF just to keep us from going rusty. So hrm... Not sure if the solo spec will work out or not. My templar is not geared in all high end stuff. A couple fabled, more legendary and a few treasured mixed in. I still manage to live. Taking on solo named that was 4 levels above me, I had no problems. It really boils down to how you play the character as well. Your personal reaction time can also make a huge difference in how the battle turns out. Oh and I do use different gear when I solo to try and make it a bit easier on me. So I hope you find yourself a good blend of gear and AAs to help you solo easier. It may take us a while, but in the end the foe tends to fall. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

<p>Certainly not having a problem killing the mobs it's just sloooowwww.    </p><p> Rarely have to even cast a reactive... stunning on the pull till debuffs/ mark/ IR are up help.   I'm speced AGI with max points in that shield effectiveness aa ability.   Carrying the rainbow shield with +1% block adorn in addition to the combined 4% from the wrist adorns may be the difference though.   I don't usually have ACT up when I solo but between UB and the shield / parry I must be preventing 40-50% of the damage on myself.</p><p>Been successfullly soloing everything i've tried including yellow^ no problem.   Also had the even con^^^ spawned during one of the quests in KP down to 25% before i realized i just had to throw the potion on him to kill him for hte quest update.   Pre-ROK I don't think I could have pulled that off but it's been months and months pre-ROK that I've had to do any soloing.  If anything I think Solo'ing is easier in ROK... but it's also easier for everyone so while doing the quests solo people will still get em done faster than the templar. </p><p> If more than one add i may have to run away.  (not cause I'm gonna lose but i think it's more time efficient to run em off and take em on singly then try to heal and dps through 3 mobs).    Since DPS is the issue when solo i put on all my +INT and +spell damage gear when i'm heading out solo.   I've been fooling around with the STR AA line.   It's not adding alot to my DPS that I can tell but I love that skull crush graphic and I think it's pretty good as a dps debuff.  Other than adding STR I've not changed my AA build from the AA build i prefer for Raiding (INT/AGI + Blessings/ Smites).  Will probably respec to STA now that I have 20aa extra in that side.  Smites will make the mana sink of spamming DD's almost irrelievant. </p><p>Enoa</p>

/rant onBeen playing a templar for years now and I have loved it. Since RoK has come out I am seriously considering switching toons. I am sick of not getting anything but fricking leather armor for healers. Solo questing in RoK is a pain in the [I cannot control my vocabulary] for templars. I am 74th so I am sloooowly making progress. SoE can take this expansion and shove it./rant offThanks just needed to get that off my chest.74 Templar that hates rok.