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Kander 10-31-2017 09:39 PM

Greetings Beta Testing Norrathians!<br /> <br /><span style="font-family: 'Segoe UI'">So we are off to a pretty good start here in the Planes of Prophecy Beta! Overland testing and quest testing has gone fantastically. Thank you very much to everyone who helped us out with this. The team wanted to make a post and give everyone some open and clear communication on what we are doing with beta and beyond!</span><br /> <br /><span style="font-family: 'Segoe UI'">First off, the rest of the beta will look something like this:</span><br /> <br /><span style="font-family: 'Symbol'">·</span><span style="font-family: 'Segoe UI'">The first week we tested Overland and Overland Quests! </span><br /><span style="font-family: 'Symbol'">·</span><span style="font-family: 'Segoe UI'">Week Two – Signature Line focus and testing with Heroics, Solos, Duos.</span><br /><span style="font-family: 'Symbol'">·</span><span style="font-family: 'Segoe UI'">Week Three – Heroic focus and testing. Raids and PQs will become available, with some raid content opening up to all!</span><br /><span style="font-family: 'Symbol'">·</span><span style="font-family: 'Segoe UI'">Week Four – Lots of bells and whistles being added. Look for more and more cool stuff!</span><br /><span style="font-family: 'Symbol'">·</span><span style="font-family: 'Segoe UI'">Week Five – Things will start to become polished and we’ll be focusing on squashing any gating or frustrating issues if they still exist.</span><br /><span style="font-family: 'Symbol'">·</span><span style="font-family: 'Segoe UI'">Week Six – This is the week before launch. We should have very few issues at this point and will be getting ready for launch! Still plenty of time to earn those beta rewards.</span><br /> <br /><span style="font-family: 'Segoe UI'">Things you will see being added and adjusted and/or tweaked/changed as we go according to feedback and necessity.</span><br /> <br /><span style="font-family: 'Symbol'">·</span><span style="font-family: 'Segoe UI'">Factions for Overland Quest Lines.</span><br /><span style="font-family: 'Symbol'">·</span><span style="font-family: 'Segoe UI'">Itemization – Always, and of course feedback changes.</span><br /><span style="font-family: 'Symbol'">·</span><span style="font-family: 'Segoe UI'">Spell and class changes – Balance is the focus this year, expect to see tweaks.</span><br /><span style="font-family: 'Symbol'">·</span><span style="font-family: 'Segoe UI'">Some Tradeskill content. Most of the TS content will be released after the Launch of Pop.</span><br /><span style="font-family: 'Symbol'">·</span><span style="font-family: 'Segoe UI'">Merchants and Service NPCs being distributed for menders/banks/etc.</span><br /><span style="font-family: 'Symbol'">·</span><span style="font-family: 'Segoe UI'">Dungeon missions and overland timed quests.</span><br /> <br /> <br /><span style="font-family: 'Segoe UI'">This and That. </span><br /> <br /><span style="font-family: 'Segoe UI'">Starting the expansion out, we want people to feel they are ready to take on the challenges ahead. Tishan’s Lockbox and the gear in it will remain in Plane of Magic at launch. This will make it easy for returning players, alts and even new players to have the gear they need to be successful in the Overland and ensure they can do the quest lines. Everything from the quests should be an upgrade to anything you get from the lockbox. Drops in the overland should be upgrades to the quest items and so on. Collection items should be upgrades to solo quest gear as well. </span><br /> <br /><span style="font-family: 'Segoe UI'">I know some of you have shown concern about repeatable quests and factions. We have metered these repeatable quests out, so that if you take advantage of what is there, there is a very limited number of times you should have to do them. We are also taking steps to preserve factions in the overland once they have been earned by setting a minimum amount that can be lost. This way, if you made it through a quest line, you will never be lower than, say, Kindly. And if you want to, you should be able to come back and earn the faction back to max. Max Ally with the three Plane of Magic factions, House Vahla, House Yrzu and Pride Pakiat, cannot be maintained simultaneously. Whatever faction you choose to ally with will result in the loss of faction with the other two.</span><br /> <br /><span style="font-family: 'Segoe UI'">We have done a 180 with Planes of Prophecy on the alt friendliness. There are no pre-reqs for getting in and getting all the content, except being level 100. No languages, no quest pre-reqs from previous expansions. We are also looking at ways to make it so once you do certain content, your alts will have access to it. Everyone is still going to need to do some content to level up, though. Solo and non-Event Heroic Tier 1 Heroic zones will require you to be 105 to start having access to them, while Duo, Event Heroic, and Tier 2 Heroic zones will require level 110 to enter. We have changed the focus on leveling; in order to keep the XP flowing, quests and dungeons are where it is at. Large amounts of XP will be awarded through quests and completing dungeons within the Planes of Prophecy expansion. This will be the best and fastest way to level up.</span><br /> <br /><span style="font-family: 'Segoe UI'">Spells and class changes are still coming, and there will indeed be some tweaks here and there. We are currently looking at utility and finding some ways to make these classes more useful and desirable. As stated previously, we looked at doing some spell consolidation, and once we started it, it immediately become evident to us it was a bad idea and that consolidating would fundamentally change the way EQII is played. That said, class balance will remain our focus even after the expansion launch this year. </span><br /> <br /><span style="font-family: 'Segoe UI'">I think I covered most questions I have been seeing, and hope that we have helped alleviate many of your concerns! See you on the beta server!</span><br /> <br /><span style="font-family: 'Segoe UI'">And for completion’s sake, here is our list of what is going into Planes of Prophecy!</span><br /> <br /><span style="font-family: 'Segoe UI'">-New Heroic Dungeons</span><br /><span style="font-family: 'Segoe UI'">-New Heroic Event Dungeons</span><br /><span style="font-family: 'Segoe UI'">-New Solo Dungeons</span><br /><span style="font-family: 'Segoe UI'">-New Duo Dungeons</span><br /><span style="font-family: 'Segoe UI'">-New Large Overland</span><br /><span style="font-family: 'Segoe UI'">-New Raid Dungeons: Using key flagging to unlock</span><br /><span style="font-family: 'Segoe UI'">-Alt-Friendly Keyring system: Unlock a new heroic zone or raid zone on your main? Your alt has it now too!</span><br /><span style="font-family: 'Segoe UI'">-New Hub zone “Coliseum of Valor” for accessing Dungeons/Raids/Public Quests</span><br /><span style="font-family: 'Segoe UI'">-Lots of new quests and factions</span><br /><span style="font-family: 'Segoe UI'">-New Timed Key Quests</span><br /><span style="font-family: 'Segoe UI'">-New Collection Quests</span><br /><span style="font-family: 'Segoe UI'">-New Expert collection quests for overland, solo and heroics.</span><br /><span style="font-family: 'Segoe UI'">-New Signature questline: Continuation of the story from the last few expansions and beyond!</span><br /><span style="font-family: 'Segoe UI'">-New weapon type: Crossbows ranged weapon usable by all</span><br /><span style="font-family: 'Segoe UI'">-New “Soulbound” Weapons : These weapons can level up to become even more powerful!</span><br /><span style="color: #ff0000"><span style="text-decoration: line-through"><span style="font-family: 'Segoe UI'">-Two handed Crossbows for those who desire them.</span></span></span><br /><span style="font-family: 'Segoe UI'">-Adventure Level Cap Raised to 110</span><br /><span style="font-family: 'Segoe UI'">-All 4 Ascension Classes Level Cap Increased to 15</span><br /><span style="font-family: 'Segoe UI'">-Tradeskill Level Cap raised to 110</span><br /><span style="font-family: 'Segoe UI'">-New Adornments for Crafters to Make</span><br /><span style="font-family: 'Segoe UI'">-New Tinkering Recipes</span><br /><span style="font-family: 'Segoe UI'">-Guild Level Cap increased</span><br /><span style="font-family: 'Segoe UI'">-Mercenary Level Cap increased</span><br /><span style="font-family: 'Segoe UI'">-More gear slots for your Mercenary</span><br /><span style="font-family: 'Segoe UI'">-Multiple New Public Quests</span><br /><span style="font-family: 'Segoe UI'">-Lots of New Achievements</span><br /><span style="font-family: 'Segoe UI'">-Lots of New Items to chase</span>

Wimble 10-31-2017 09:58 PM

/Kander<br /> <br /> <br />Sorry, had to.

Zannya 10-31-2017 10:21 PM

Please Please make Solo Zones SOLO zones... for those of us who do not have Raid or even Heroic Gear. We want to play too... but do not want to have to be Uber to do it.

Armageddoux 10-31-2017 10:22 PM

wow !<br /> <br />We (and You) have a huge lot of work to do for these next weeks <img src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" alt="Smile" /><br /> <br />Bon, ben allez hop : au boulot <img src="/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" alt="BigGrin" />

Clintsat 10-31-2017 11:17 PM

It is possible for there to be some additional information on class balance direction? Even a list of each class and their expected roles or dps tiers would be a nice opening of the kimono.

Mermut 10-31-2017 11:53 PM

Will there be published list of the spell/class changes? It is far easier to test such things when we know what we're looking for/at

Gninja 11-01-2017 01:25 AM

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Zannya"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Zannya said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6474165#post-6474165" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">Please Please make Solo Zones SOLO zones... for those of us who do not have Raid or even Heroic Gear. We want to play too... but do not want to have to be Uber to do it.</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div> <br />We are still in the middle of balancing all the zone difficulties. The solo zones are NOT being balanced to raid gear. They will be balanced to having the quest gear from the overland.

Mermut 11-01-2017 01:29 AM

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Zannya"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Zannya said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6474165#post-6474165" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">Please Please make Solo Zones SOLO zones... for those of us who do not have Raid or even Heroic Gear. We want to play too... but do not want to have to be Uber to do it.</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>I"m running through them on a coercer with just the gear she's earned in beta.. so the freebie gear that will be there on live, gear from the faction quests and overland mobs.<br />She can handle the trash in the solo zones w/o a merc just fine, but, unfortunately, they are impossible for her w/o a healer merc.<br />That being said, they have all be doable w/o issue with the merc up in 'solo' gear.

EmJay 11-01-2017 02:57 AM

Since the tradeskill timeline won't be available until after the launch of the expansion, will we be able to buy recipies to be able to start leveling the crafters?

Wimble 11-01-2017 04:35 AM

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Mermut"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Mermut said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6474192#post-6474192" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">Will there be published list of the spell/class changes? It is far easier to test such things when we know what we're looking for/at</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>Agree with this, I'm happy with beta and what it promises for the new expac, but clarification on class balance changes, which gives general intent and some specifics (i suppose the 2 or 3 abilities of each class to be most adjusted positivly and negativly?) is needed.

Materfarmer 11-01-2017 01:09 PM

Thanks for the heads up Devs. Can't wait to see the polish on Beta as we move to Live !

Mandoblast 11-01-2017 01:51 PM

Will there be additional ascension masters in PoP? Just wondering if we will have to go back to OF each time we want to level. Also, will there be a reward for 15/15/15/15?

bondii 11-01-2017 02:59 PM

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Zannya"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Zannya said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6474165#post-6474165" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">Please Please make Solo Zones SOLO zones... for those of us who do not have Raid or even Heroic Gear. We want to play too... but do not want to have to be Uber to do it.</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>You can make some of the solos easy but for the love of Norath there is 8 of them and only 3 Duos. We do not need that much content that will become outgeared in a month.

Scrappyz 11-01-2017 04:20 PM

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Mandoblast"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Mandoblast said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6474314#post-6474314" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">Also, will there be a reward for 15/15/15/15?</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div> <br />There's individual achievements again as well as an overall achievement... so I would guess they'd be the same or similar in regards to ears/charm

Xianthia 11-01-2017 07:46 PM

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Mermut"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Mermut said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6474224#post-6474224" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">I"m running through them on a coercer with just the gear she's earned in beta.. so the freebie gear that will be there on live, gear from the faction quests and overland mobs.<br />She can handle the trash in the solo zones w/o a merc just fine, but, unfortunately, they are impossible for her w/o a healer merc.<br />That being said, they have all be doable w/o issue with the merc up in 'solo' gear.</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>I'm having a different experience.<br /> <br />Beta buffed illy is having a really bad time to get the sig quest done. The illy copied from live (expert/heroic geared) is having a completely and <i>better</i> experience. At this stage I doubt being able to complete the sig questline on the beta buffed illy.<br /> <br />More time to go before Beta finishes, and things change many times, but as it stands at this moment she will not be successful on the sig quest.<br /> <br />Two different experiences on the same class. Just wanted to chime in on this <img src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" alt="Smile" />

Darwiin 11-02-2017 12:14 AM

Nice information, but any words on other Caps that might change beside Adventure level, Tradeskill level and Ascension level?<br />Is Crit Bonus Cap going up?<br />Is Deity Gain Cap still going to be still set to 10 (I am loosing a lot of Deity Points each quest turn in)<br />Is Fever Cap being raised?<br />Just wonder if you can clue us into planned game changes?

Shmogre 11-02-2017 12:32 AM

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Darwiin"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Darwiin said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6474496#post-6474496" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">Is Deity Gain Cap still going to be still set to 10 (I am loosing a lot of Deity Points each quest turn in)</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>I've found it helps to think of it more as "I'm getting 10 deity points per quest". It's still a lot more than we got before, and it's nice to be able to see those little pie slices actually move during a regular play session.<br /> <br />(Not that I would turn down an increase to the ten point limit, mind you. <img src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" alt="Smile" /> )

Observing 11-02-2017 01:13 AM

With the lockbox remaining in live, what is the purpose of handcrafted gear?<br />It is approximately 1% better than the lockbox gear but cannot be reforged; at best a wash and usually a bad tradeoff.<br /> <br />The lockbox gear requires zero effort to acquire, while handcrafted gear requires about 18 hours of writ grinding (as of tradeskill xp right now on beta) to get all recipes plus time to harvest new materials. And that is 18 hours for plate/chain armor, another 18 for leather/cloth, another 18 for jewelry, and another 18 for weapons.<br /> <br />Handcrafted gear will be obsolete zero hours into POP.<br /> <br />In contrast, at the beginning of KA, handcrafted was very good for starting under-geared players and the KA crafting line took about 2 hours total to complete on one character and receive recipes for all of your alt crafters.

Ellimist 11-03-2017 12:35 AM

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Kander"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Kander said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6474145#post-6474145" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content"><span style="font-family: 'Segoe UI'">Max Ally with the three Plane of Magic factions, House Vahla, House Yrzu and Pride Pakiat, cannot be maintained simultaneously. Whatever faction you choose to ally with will result in the loss of faction with the other two.</span><br /> <br /> <br /><span style="font-family: 'Segoe UI'">As stated previously, we looked at doing some spell consolidation, and once we started it, it immediately become evident to us it was a bad idea and that consolidating would fundamentally change the way EQII is played. </span></span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div> <br /> <br />Kander,<br /> <br />With regard to the two above quotes.<br /> <br />1) In DoF we had the ability to gain max faction with all three houses simultaneously if we managed our faction correctly before the quest The Courts of Maj'Dul: Of Fate and Destiny was completed. Is there any plan to add a similar quest maybe even after the expansion launches? I'd be pretty keen for a complex quest that allows it.<br /> <br />2) With regards to consolidation. Could you elaborate more on the decisions and design process here? I would argue that ascension classes have changed how EQ2 is played more than consolidation of our current class spells would. This was a big item for the community and there was very little communication of it so some more detail would be great for us to understand exactly what went on here and why.<br /> <br />Cheers,

Wimble 11-03-2017 10:54 PM

<img src="/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif" alt="Roll Eyes" />

Conifur 11-04-2017 04:37 PM

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Kander"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Kander said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6474145#post-6474145" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">Max Ally with the three Plane of Magic factions, House Vahla, House Yrzu and Pride Pakiat, cannot be maintained simultaneously. Whatever faction you choose to ally with will result in the loss of faction with the other two.</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>I can't believe I am saying this, and I might be the only one thinking it. But I loved the faction setup in The Hole with the three factions. So there is no chance it could be like that? I complained about it at first, but when I decided to grind it - it was kind of fun.

Shmogre 11-04-2017 06:49 PM

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Shmogre"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Shmogre said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6474498#post-6474498" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">I've found it helps to think of it more as "I'm getting 10 deity points per quest".</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>Amending my statement: Once vitality runs out, it's no longer a guaranteed 10 points...sometimes I only get 8 or 9 points per turn-in.

Observing 11-05-2017 03:55 PM

So I have completed an entire faction (50k) and the first two signature quests.<br />And I cannot proceed because I just hit level 104, leaving another 90 (yes, ninety) faction repeatable quests before I hit level 105 and can enter the Plane of Innovation zones.<br /> <br />Also, what is the point of shortcutting the quest line by unlocking all instances on all your alts if the only way to meet the level entrance requirement is to do the quest line ???

Shmogre 11-05-2017 04:01 PM

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Observing"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Observing said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6475411#post-6475411" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">So I have completed an entire faction (50k) and the first two signature quests.<br />And I cannot proceed because I just hit level 104, leaving another 90 (yes, ninety) faction repeatable quests before I hit level 105 and can enter the Plane of Innovation zones.</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>Two things will help: Continue doing the other two faction lines and let your vitality recharge a bit (or use an experience potion if you have some).<br /> <br />(If it helps, I did the factions before starting the sig line and I dinged 110 before I finished all three. There are a fair number of quests there to help with leveling, it's actually a really nice change from prior expansions...kudos to the devs for that.)


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