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BChizzle 06-26-2012 10:00 PM

<p>For years devs have said the reason brawlers don't have a group buff is because they have that extra stance.  If you are going to remove our mid stance then replace it with a group buff please.</p>

Vinyard 06-26-2012 10:09 PM

<p>Monks have a group buff.</p>

Landiin 06-26-2012 10:21 PM

About like rangers...

BChizzle 06-26-2012 10:42 PM

<p><cite>[email protected] Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Monks have a group buff.</p></blockquote><p>No they dont.</p>

Drumstix 06-26-2012 11:12 PM

<p>The point was taking away the mid stance and giving Recklessness to all the fighters.</p>

BChizzle 06-26-2012 11:26 PM

<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>The point was taking away the mid stance and giving Recklessness to all the fighters.</p></blockquote><p>All fighters get recklessness only brawlers had something removed.  It need to be changed to a buff rather than being just removed.  Look at all the plat and time we all spent getting it mastered you can't just remove something and not give something in return.</p>

Corydonn 06-26-2012 11:53 PM

<p>Group power regen please.</p>

Vinyard 06-26-2012 11:54 PM

<p><cite>BChizzle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>[email protected] Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Monks have a group buff.</p></blockquote><p>No they dont.</p></blockquote><p><a href="http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Calm_Tranquility_VII">http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Calm_Tranquility_VII</a></p>

Silzin 06-27-2012 12:06 AM

<p><cite>[email protected] Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>BChizzle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>[email protected] Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Monks have a group buff.</p></blockquote><p>No they dont.</p></blockquote><p><a href="http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Calm_Tranquility_VII">http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Calm_Tranquility_VII</a></p></blockquote><p>that is what is very commonly called a "raid wide buff", not a "group buff".</p>

BChizzle 06-27-2012 02:19 AM

<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>[email protected] Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>BChizzle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>[email protected] Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Monks have a group buff.</p></blockquote><p>No they dont.</p></blockquote><p><a href="http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Calm_Tranquility_VII">http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Calm_Tranquility_VII</a></p></blockquote><p>that is what is very commonly called a "raid wide buff", not a "group buff".</p></blockquote><p>It is probably too hard of a conecpt for him.</p><p>Vinyard all plate tanks have both a raidwide as well as a group buff.  Brawler tanks were never given a group buff because we had an extra stance in our mid stance which really was slightly underused and useless (till recently it actually was useful on fiery feedback mobs.)  Since our midstance is being removed we should now get a group buff like all other tanks.</p><p>My suggestion is since we are getting screwed over for mit that brawlers get a 2k group physical mit buff.  If it is in fact Xelgads intention that since brawlers can reach plate mit levels strikethrough is being removed then this will help them actually reach plate tank mit levels as well as provide some group utility.</p>

Xaxtionlorex 06-27-2012 02:29 AM

<p>You should have to choice between 90% avoidence, caped block with out a shield, and plate mit, can't have all three.</p>

BChizzle 06-27-2012 02:52 AM

<p><cite>Xaxtionlorex wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>You should have to choice between 90% avoidence, caped block with out a shield, and plate mit, can't have all three.</p></blockquote><p>The highest possible avoidance is 70 dodge * 70 parry * 70 block which would equal 85.3 avoidance.  No tank can even come close to that including brawlers.  People like you who claim this garbage don't have a clue about this game and really show their lack of knowledge.</p><p>If you see a tank (and I say tank not brawler) with higher numbers that that then it was because buffs put on them and temps that are available to all classes.</p>


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