<p>I guess I am baffled people have been posting begging for ldl to merge since merges were announced.  Where where the posters in this thread regarding the rp tag then?</p><p>cause seriously..</p><p><a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=489041">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=489041</a></p><p><a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=492248">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=492248</a></p><p><a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=491967">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=491967</a></p><p><a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=489288">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=489288</a></p><p><a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=489289">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=489289</a></p><p>if LDL is so dead and people are begging for a transfer off the rp server and to drop the rp tag .. nowww weeks later is a fuss</p><p>The community in this game baffles me to no end.   Rp'ers exist on all servers the presence of the rp tag means well not a whole lot to many SOE has been resisting merging two different server types because of this very reaction.    Over a meaningless label....</p><p>/shrugs</p><p>*scratches head*</p><p>I read all those merge threads when they were created  and i am now doing a double take ..</p>

<p><cite>Troubor wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Lethe5683 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>.</p><p>They are probably considering the population as the number of characters rather than the number of accounts.</p></blockquote><p>Again that could be, but they also aren't clear.  All we can do is assume given what SOE is posting from their official website.  Again I did initially assume accounts, but yes it could very well be characters.</p></blockquote><p>Accounts aren't really tied to servers, and I doubt they have that many subscribers.  Im fairly certain the number listed is all characters on the server including ones that have not been played in over 3 years.</p><p><cite>mysticalone wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I guess I am baffled people have been posting begging for ldl to merge since merges were announced.  Where where the posters in this thread regarding the rp tag then?</p><p>cause seriously..</p><p>if LDL is so dead and people are begging for a transfer off the rp server and to drop the rp tag .. nowww weeks later is a fuss</p></blockquote><p>I don't think the people complaining now are the same people who were requesting a merge.  I never wanted LdL to be merged and am just hopeing that it will not totally ruin the server.</p>

<p>Its number of characters. The numbers across the board steadily go up as the weeks go by. I don't think all the servers are seeing 100+ new people a week. If that was the case LDL would have had an overpopulation in under a month.</p><p>I'm assuming an EQ2 server doesn't have the capcity of a WoW server and those usually have 4-20k(per faction, and this is also a character number, though only level 10 and up and within the last 30 days) players from the census reports.</p>

<p><cite>Taemien@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Its number of characters. The numbers across the board steadily go up as the weeks go by. I don't think all the servers are seeing 100+ new people a week. If that was the case LDL would have had an overpopulation in under a month.</p><p>I'm assuming an EQ2 server doesn't have the capcity of a WoW server and those usually have 4-20k(per faction, and this is also a character number, though only level 10 and up and within the last 30 days) players from the census reports.</p></blockquote><p>Character capacity doesn't practically exist unless you are talking about the number that can be logged in at once.  The amount of space needed to store character data is trivial.</p>

<p><cite>mysticalone wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I guess I am baffled people have been posting begging for ldl to merge since merges were announced.  Where where the posters in this thread regarding the rp tag then?</p><p>cause seriously..</p><p><a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=489041">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=489041</a></p><p><a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=492248">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=492248</a></p><p><a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=491967">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=491967</a></p><p><a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=489288">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=489288</a></p><p><a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=489289">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=489289</a></p><p>if LDL is so dead and people are begging for a transfer off the rp server and to drop the rp tag .. nowww weeks later is a fuss</p><p>The community in this game baffles me to no end.   Rp'ers exist on all servers the presence of the rp tag means well not a whole lot to many SOE has been resisting merging two different server types because of this very reaction.    Over a meaningless label....</p><p>/shrugs</p><p>*scratches head*</p><p>I read all those merge threads when they were created  and i am now doing a double take ..</p></blockquote><p>To answer for myself specifically, I had no knowledge of the threads you posted before then.  But then again I wasn't wanting to leave LDL.</p><p>As for the so called useless tag, you're missing the point.  Yes, RP probably does exist to some small degree on every server, regardless of tag.  But the point is that presumably on AB and LDL it exists to a greater degree.  And it's a way of adverting that RP is more openly accepted.  And to show it's less likely that those wishing to explore that aspect of play will be treated as a pariah.</p><p>All us on LDL that like our RP tag are asking for is that CB carry it due to a signifigant population of RPers moving to CB server due to the merge.  We'd like it if we have the RP tag adverting that there is a RP community, once on LDL, now soon to be on CB next month.  And one that is probably much larger then the current number of RPer's on CB despite CB having 50,000 more characters or accounts, depending on what those numbers mean.</p><p>I'll ask you this, what harm is there with the tag?  As I keep pointing out, people who move to CB due to being recruited by a guild to raid won't care if there's a RP tag or not.  People who joined LDL due to the RP tag will suddenly lose part of what they have been paying for since the moment they rolled at least one character on LDL if the tag doesn't carry.  And for those seeking that sort of play, seeing that there's two servers with a large enough active community to merit a RP tag, and I do think even post merger that the new CB-LDL server will count as such will give them more choice as to where to go.  So what is the harm?  Forgive me, but I keep scratching my head at the opposition to the RP tag when it does nothing to hurt CB and does everything to support the people whom will be joining them a month from now.</p>

<p>There's no way to get an accurate online amount, so we can only go by number of characters.</p><p>I did do a little research on the number of 90s on the LDL, AB, and CB servers. That isn't a terribly accurate way either, but its alot closer then the network status page. LDL is sitting at around 3400. AB is 7800. And CB is 6100.</p><p>I don't know what the active numbers are, but I'm wondering what the threshold actually is that got us selected for CB instead of AB. As it looks right now (and again this could be inaccurate), Crushbone looks pretty healthy right now. I think our addition is going to bloat up the server.</p><p>If were to handle the merge, I'd offer free transfers off LDL to CB for about two weeks and then merge it with AB. That would have appeased both sides of the server. IT would balance the population of CB and AB against each other.</p><p>But I am not apart of the powers that be. We can make an attempt to keep the RP tag. Who knows, maybe if this thread gets enough pages they'll take a look at the possiblility. I'll see about working up some avenues to get more participation in such. I've got some contacts with Ice Dragon Inn, RPC, and some other alliances on LDL. We'll get the word around pretty quick.</p>

<p>Would definitely prefer to keep the RP tag on the server.</p>

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<p>I'm on Crushbone and I really don't mind slapping the RP tag on it.  If it makes the RPers more comfortable, fine.  Doesn't effect my gameplay any.</p>

<p><cite>Torryn@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I fully support this effort. Regardless of server name, let 'em keep their RP tag.</p></blockquote><p>No kidding, as an AB Roleplayer also.. I support the LdL guys getting to keep their tag.</p><p>This whole merge is really pooping on them to begin with - if anything they should be allowed free transfers to AB - and the very least that could be done is moving the RP tag with them.</p><p>As it stands now, I feel bad for the LDL community that Rps on one of the *TWO* Rping servers.</p>

<p><img src="/eq2/images/smilies/e8a506dc4ad763aca51bec4ca7dc8560.gif" border="0" /> I moved to LDL becouse of the rp tag 5 years ago. I think that if we are to merge our tag should go with us. I never would of gone to LDL if it were not for the tag cause I was looking for Rp.</p>

<p><cite>mysticalone wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I guess I am baffled people have been posting begging for ldl to merge since merges were announced.  Where where the posters in this thread regarding the rp tag then?</p><p>cause seriously..</p><p><a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=489041">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=489041</a></p><p><a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=492248">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=492248</a></p><p><a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=491967">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=491967</a></p><p><a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=489288">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=489288</a></p><p><a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=489289">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=489289</a></p><p>if LDL is so dead and people are begging for a transfer off the rp server and to drop the rp tag .. nowww weeks later is a fuss</p><p>The community in this game baffles me to no end.   Rp'ers exist on all servers the presence of the rp tag means well not a whole lot to many SOE has been resisting merging two different server types because of this very reaction.    Over a meaningless label....</p><p>/shrugs</p><p>*scratches head*</p><p>I read all those merge threads when they were created  and i am now doing a double take ..</p></blockquote><p>This is the kinda post that really baffles me, and here's why:</p><p>Its a simplistic generalization to think the whole LdL community could agree on anything... merge, rp tag, or server name.  That said, I think most LdL players see the positives of this merger.</p><p>It was my understanding that SOE didn't merge LdL as recognition of the RP-prefered tag and customers who selected it... not out of fear of reaction from the community.  Good business practices, instead of the fear you describe.</p><p>Anyways, if the RP tag 'means not a whole too many' then why not keep it since a large group of customers clicked the RP-prefered server at some point...  and it clearly means something to them.</p>

<p><cite>Dish@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><img src="/eq2/images/smilies/e8a506dc4ad763aca51bec4ca7dc8560.gif" border="0" /> I moved to LDL becouse of the rp tag 5 years ago. I think that if we are to merge our tag should go with us. I never would of gone to LDL if it were not for the tag cause I was looking for Rp.</p></blockquote><p>Just playing devil's advocate, as none of this affects me, one way or the other. But those who chose CB 5yrs ago, in part due to it NOT having a rp tag, have as much right for it to not be added during a merge. Many never would have gone to CB if there WERE a rp tag.</p><p>One poster (I'm not scrolling back to see who it was) mentioned he did not want his server to sport a shiny new RP tag due to how it may keep non-rpers from selecting this server in the future. This IS a legitimate concern in that the majority of player, new and old, do not rp; many, myself included, deliberately avoided RP tagged servers when we made our characters because of this. I personally have no problem with those who choose to rp, even when they do it in groups with me... but I avoided rp tagged servers because by choosing one I would feel obligated to make an attempt to rp any toons I made on said server, something that makes me feel foolish and stupid (and not saying those who do rp are, don't get me wrong).</p><p>Again, just playing d.a., but I do understand any opposition.</p>

<p>Well, Chakos, maybe that's exactly why a merge is not such a great idea. Free transfers, yes. A merge between a non-Rp prefered server and a RP-prefered server... is bound to create such issues.</p>

<p><cite>Chakos wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Dish@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><img src="/eq2/images/smilies/e8a506dc4ad763aca51bec4ca7dc8560.gif" border="0" /> I moved to LDL becouse of the rp tag 5 years ago. I think that if we are to merge our tag should go with us. I never would of gone to LDL if it were not for the tag cause I was looking for Rp.</p></blockquote><p>Just playing devil's advocate, as none of this affects me, one way or the other. But those who chose CB 5yrs ago, in part due to it NOT having a rp tag, have as much right for it to not be added during a merge. Many never would have gone to CB if there WERE a rp tag.</p><p>One poster (I'm not scrolling back to see who it was) mentioned he did not want his server to sport a shiny new RP tag due to how it may keep non-rpers from selecting this server in the future. This IS a legitimate concern in that the majority of player, new and old, do not rp; many, myself included, deliberately avoided RP tagged servers when we made our characters because of this. I personally have no problem with those who choose to rp, even when they do it in groups with me... but I avoided rp tagged servers because by choosing one I would feel obligated to make an attempt to rp any toons I made on said server, something that makes me feel foolish and stupid (and not saying those who do rp are, don't get me wrong).</p><p>Again, just playing d.a., but I do understand any opposition.</p></blockquote><p>Well, just repeating the obvious:</p><p>The tag would be <span style="text-decoration: underline;">RP-prefered.</span>  Meaning ya can if ya want, but ya aint gotta, and infact the majority don't.  I would expect the tag would mean nothing to the current CB players if they aren't RPing.  They just keep on doing what they do.</p><p>So, if someone is looking to avoid RP, they got alot of options -- including both RP-prefered servers. Since they can just chose not to participate.  But if LdL loses the RP tag, then someone who is looking for RP only has one option... and that one is the highest population server.</p>

<p><cite>Gimmiethat wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Well, just repeating the obvious:</p><p>The tag would be <span style="text-decoration: underline;">RP-prefered.</span>  Meaning ya can if ya want, but ya aint gotta, and infact the majority don't.  I would expect the tag would mean nothing to the current CB players if they aren't RPing.  They just keep on doing what they do.</p><p>Also, seems to me if someone is looking to avoid RP, they got alot of options, but if someone is looking for RP, then they only have one... and that one is has the highest population server.</p></blockquote><p>If you have one server tagged as "RP" (AB), and another tagged as "RP-preferred" (Crushbone?), all serious new RPers who somehow find the EQ2Live servers, will choose AB. Higher population = more RPers = more RP. Not to mention AB will be labelled as a full RP server where Crushbone would just be a RP preferred server...  Why would someone serious about RPing, pick a server labelled as half baked?If LDL is merged into Crushbone, the RP tag should vanish.If Crushbone is merged into LDL, the RP tag should stay.The "home" server should remain as it always has been, and the merged server labels vanish. If the relocated crowd do not like it, a "RP" tagged server is just one xfer token away. As already stated, nothing will stop RPers from LDL, continuing to RP on Crushbone.If LDL players are not keen on this option, they should start petitioning SOE for no merger, citing that they are happy with things as they are, can not bear the thought of "losing" the letters RP beside the server name, and want LDL to stay as it is.</p>

<p><cite>Avirodar@Oasis wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Gimmiethat wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Well, just repeating the obvious:</p><p>The tag would be <span style="text-decoration: underline;">RP-prefered.</span>  Meaning ya can if ya want, but ya aint gotta, and infact the majority don't.  I would expect the tag would mean nothing to the current CB players if they aren't RPing.  They just keep on doing what they do.</p><p>Also, seems to me if someone is looking to avoid RP, they got alot of options, but if someone is looking for RP, then they only have one... and that one is has the highest population server.</p></blockquote><p>If you have one server tagged as "RP" (AB), and another tagged as "RP-preferred" (Crushbone?), all serious new RPers who somehow find the EQ2Live servers, will choose AB. Higher population = more RPers = more RP. Not to mention AB will be labelled as a full RP server where Crushbone would just be a RP preferred server...  Why would someone serious about RPing, pick a server labelled as half baked?If LDL is merged into Crushbone, the RP tag should vanish.If Crushbone is merged into LDL, the RP tag should stay.The "home" server should remain as it always has been, and the merged server labels vanish. If the relocated crowd do not like it, a "RP" tagged server is just one xfer token away. As already stated, nothing will stop RPers from LDL, continuing to RP on Crushbone.If LDL players are not keen on this option, they should start petitioning SOE for no merger, citing that they are happy with things as they are, can not bear the thought of "losing" the letters RP beside the server name, and want LDL to stay as it is.</p></blockquote><p>Your server is not being affected either way. Though the Roleplayers of LDL do appreciate your contribution in the form of a bump of this thread.</p><p>The thread gets a little larger each day. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/ed515dbff23a0ee3241dcc0a601c9ed6.gif" border="0" /></p>

<p>i am in favor of the rp tag  it would extreemly help the community</p>

<p>I'm really not a fan of this merger overall.  A big reason I like an RP preferred server is that there are a lot less of the very OOC "Mckillydps Moredots" type of names, and you can't exactly take away old names if we're moving to what was a non-RP server.  I also worry quite a bit about a sudden population jump, because I've always liked being on a low population server.  It's quieter and you're not constantly warring with other people over the contested names and harvest nodes.Talking about being forced to either move to a non-RP server or pay for a transfer to AB kind of scares me.  There's a fairly tight-knit community in LDL, and if our choices are either go totally non-RP or move to AB, that community is going to suffer as the people in it are scattered.  Maybe I'm overestimating the difference between the RP tag and not, but when I look at other servers I do see a big difference in the way the people act.I don't want to be one of those "I'm going to quit and take my 800 friends with me" or "omg panic" people so I'll wait and see, but I really don't like the thought of a RP required server merging into a fully non-RP server.  If we're losing LDL, it would be very nice if we could at least keep the RP tag as that's the reason I went to LDL in the first place.-Nanala</p>

<p>Personally, I don't care what the name of the merged server ends up being. However, I do feel strongly that the merged server should keep the RP-Preferred tag. Here's why:</p><p>(1) Players looking to roll a toon will see the RP-Preferred tag and know that, like AB, there's a community of roleplayers available on this server.</p><p>(2) Retaining the tag honors the intent of many who rolled their toons on LDL because of the RP-Preferred tag.</p><p>(3) Having the RP-Preferred tag actually may have some impact on encouraging people to be more open to the idea of role-playing. When done well, good RP can be like really good theater, and has all the fun of an improv group. And it's easiet to roleplay when others around you also are roleplaying.</p><p>(4) Retaining the RP-Preferred tag is a minor concession to make, and will avoid a lot of hurt feelings of folks coming from LDL.</p><p>Those of us who roleplay will still roleplay no matter where we are. I do it in the S.C.A., I do it in D&D, I do it in EQ2. Having the tag won't change that. But I think it makes sense to retain the RP-Preferred tag.</p>

<p><cite>Avirodar@Oasis wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Gimmiethat wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Well, just repeating the obvious:</p><p>The tag would be <span style="text-decoration: underline;">RP-prefered.</span>  Meaning ya can if ya want, but ya aint gotta, and infact the majority don't.  I would expect the tag would mean nothing to the current CB players if they aren't RPing.  They just keep on doing what they do.</p><p>Also, seems to me if someone is looking to avoid RP, they got alot of options, but if someone is looking for RP, then they only have one... and that one is has the highest population server.</p></blockquote><p>If you have one server tagged as "RP" (AB), and another tagged as "RP-preferred" (Crushbone?), all serious new RPers who somehow find the EQ2Live servers, will choose AB. Higher population = more RPers = more RP. Not to mention AB will be labelled as a full RP server where Crushbone would just be a RP preferred server...  Why would someone serious about RPing, pick a server labelled as half baked?If LDL is merged into Crushbone, the RP tag should vanish.If Crushbone is merged into LDL, the RP tag should stay.The "home" server should remain as it always has been, and the merged server labels vanish. If the relocated crowd do not like it, a "RP" tagged server is just one xfer token away. As already stated, nothing will stop RPers from LDL, continuing to RP on Crushbone.If LDL players are not keen on this option, they should start petitioning SOE for no merger, citing that they are happy with things as they are, can not bear the thought of "losing" the letters RP beside the server name, and want LDL to stay as it is.</p></blockquote><p>OK -- just check MY FACTS...  There are currently two servers marked RP on the menu.  When creating a character you mouse over a RP server it is described as RP-prefered -- both AB & LdL are currently RP-Prefered.  One server population is decribed as heavy and recommends selecting a medium or light population server.</p><p>The merged Crush de'Lere NEEDS to have the RP-prefered tag as a viable alternative to AB as it currently exist.</p><p>Also, as far as "home" server is concerned... this merge is not exactly like the last four in that one server has significantly higher population.  Again, just looking at the server select menu, CB is just one spot lower than LdL... much more a merger of equals rather than a big/small merger.</p>

No crushbone people didn't opet in for a RP server. Like was said earlier if LDL is merged into Crushbone then the RP tag should be gone. If the its the other way then keep the RP tag. But it still will be misleading to new people b/c of the RP population is so small.

<p>If the RP population is very small (not sure it is), then it makes sense to open transfers to AB. If the RP population is not small, and even if it is, then it makes all sense to keep the RP tag, even in the event of the merger. (which I'm not fond of, either).</p><p>My 2 cents here.</p><p>Seidhkona summarized very well IMO the situation in the alternative of the merger.</p>

<p><cite>Toranx@Crushbone wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>No crushbone people didn't opet in for a RP server. Like was said earlier if LDL is merged into Crushbone then the RP tag should be gone. If the its the other way then keep the RP tag. But it still will be misleading to new people b/c of the RP population is so small.</blockquote><p>And LdL people didn't OPT OUT of thier RP server.  It's word parsing, but...  I haven't seen a reference that LdL would be merged INTO CB -- as was the case with earlier merges.  Check SJ & Rothgar's language... LdL will be merged WITH CB.  Naming criteria for the server goes with higher population.  RP tag in limbo.</p><p>A merger of equals with CB winning the name and server keeping the RP tag just makes sense. </p>

<p><cite>Avirodar@Oasis wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Gimmiethat wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Well, just repeating the obvious:</p><p>The tag would be <span style="text-decoration: underline;">RP-prefered.</span>  Meaning ya can if ya want, but ya aint gotta, and infact the majority don't.  I would expect the tag would mean nothing to the current CB players if they aren't RPing.  They just keep on doing what they do.</p><p>Also, seems to me if someone is looking to avoid RP, they got alot of options, but if someone is looking for RP, then they only have one... and that one is has the highest population server.</p></blockquote><p>If you have one server tagged as "RP" (AB), and another tagged as "RP-preferred" (Crushbone?), all serious new RPers who somehow find the EQ2Live servers, will choose AB. Higher population = more RPers = more RP. Not to mention AB will be labelled as a full RP server where Crushbone would just be a RP preferred server...  Why would someone serious about RPing, pick a server labelled as half baked?If LDL is merged into Crushbone, the RP tag should vanish.If Crushbone is merged into LDL, the RP tag should stay.The "home" server should remain as it always has been, and the merged server labels vanish. If the relocated crowd do not like it, a "RP" tagged server is just one xfer token away. As already stated, nothing will stop RPers from LDL, continuing to RP on Crushbone.If LDL players are not keen on this option, they should start petitioning SOE for no merger, citing that they are happy with things as they are, can not bear the thought of "losing" the letters RP beside the server name, and want LDL to stay as it is.</p></blockquote><p>I could be mistaken but the "RP" has always meant "RP Preferred" on both AB and Lucan d'Lere.  For the purposes of that tag, AB isn't more or less "RP" then LDL.</p><p>As for new players picking AB due to population even if CB gains a RP tag after the merge, not always.  Not everyone wants a high population server either.  I joined this game May 2005.  When I joined, I picked LDL instead of AB due to wanting a bit lower population overall. </p><p>As for the "home" server staying as is, other then by name CB won't even be the same server.  It's gaining almost double the population and a good chunk of them roleplayers who joined LDL due to the RP tag.</p><p>Finally, as has been stated many times before, how does a RP tag hurt CB server?  Anyone wishing to go there for reasons other then RP ignores tags anyway.</p>

<p><cite>Toranx@Crushbone wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>No crushbone people didn't opet in for a RP server. Like was said earlier if LDL is merged into Crushbone then the RP tag should be gone. If the its the other way then keep the RP tag. But it still will be misleading to new people b/c of the RP population is so small.</blockquote><p>Will the RP population be small?  Let's say 20 percent of the current LDL population roleplays.  After the merger that's still 10 percent.  That is still a notable and in my opinion signifigant enough population to warrant a RP tag.  And again as I've stated before, such a tag won't have an effect on any current CB population that have no interest in RP. </p><p>Having no tag WILL have an effect on those who did join LDL due to it's RP tag, especially in the long run.  New players will only see AB server as the official RP server, we lose out on potential new players on CB.</p><p>Thus in a way, no RP tag on CB is actually counter productive.  They wish to not give out free transfers to AB so that it doesn't get overloaded with RPers from LDL jumping to there right before the merger.  Fine.  But if they don't tag CB as RP, then any new players, people wishing to transfer to join a RP server and people making alts to try a RP server will ONLY see AB.  Thus AB gains population that potentially could have gone to CB.  Thus AB gains even more potential overcrowding, CB loses out on Rpers that may have joined CB if they knew that LDL's old RP community is now on CB.</p><p>But of course, using what I call "SOE Logic" they only see the current numbers now and don't consider anything else in the long term.</p>

<p><cite>Chakos wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Dish@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><img src="/eq2/images/smilies/e8a506dc4ad763aca51bec4ca7dc8560.gif" border="0" /> I moved to LDL becouse of the rp tag 5 years ago. I think that if we are to merge our tag should go with us. I never would of gone to LDL if it were not for the tag cause I was looking for Rp.</p></blockquote><p>Just playing devil's advocate, as none of this affects me, one way or the other. But those who chose CB 5yrs ago, in part due to it NOT having a rp tag, have as much right for it to not be added during a merge. Many never would have gone to CB if there WERE a rp tag.</p><p>One poster (I'm not scrolling back to see who it was) mentioned he did not want his server to sport a shiny new RP tag due to how it may keep non-rpers from selecting this server in the future. This IS a legitimate concern in that the majority of player, new and old, do not rp; many, myself included, deliberately avoided RP tagged servers when we made our characters because of this. I personally have no problem with those who choose to rp, even when they do it in groups with me... but I avoided rp tagged servers because by choosing one I would feel obligated to make an attempt to rp any toons I made on said server, something that makes me feel foolish and stupid (and not saying those who do rp are, don't get me wrong).</p><p>Again, just playing d.a., but I do understand any opposition.</p></blockquote><p>And yet over on LDL we got whole guilds whom were raid guilds and did little or no RP when they transfered simply to be on a smaller server for whatever reasons.  Some of them did make RP alts or started RPing later on, but for the most part they came to raid on a smaller server and completly ignored the tag.</p><p>And as someone else pointed out, AB and LDL are RP preferred.  Not demanded.  If you wish to stand there in /say and go on about the latest football game or how much horsepower you new car gets or whatever else, you can.  Nothing is enforced.  The reason many of us from LDL wish to keep our tag is so that those of us whom do RP will still have an advert on the end of the server name for new players, transfers and new alts seeking that form of gameplay.  That's all.</p><p>No-one is going to walk up to you if it's changed to "Crushbone, RP preferred" and say "THOU MUST ROLEPLAY!".  For what it's worth I personally go with the "feel" of the group or raid I'm in.  If most aren't in character I don't RP and often don't bother with an OOC tag for my chat.  I also am almost never in character on any global chat like level chat or crafting channel.  Zone chats, /shout I keep in character, /ooc (for obviously reasons) I don't, /say I do.  /tell I'm generally roleplaying but again follow the lead of the guy who sent the /tell too.  And again, if you walk up to me after the merge is done and chat in /say completly out of character, I'll reply.  Most RPers aren't "RP [Removed for Content]".  The very few whom were on our server were just as despised by the RP community as they were by everyone else on LDL, and to the best of my knowledge haven't been on server for years now, literally.</p>

<p>I'm happy with things either way.. but as I have said before...  If LDL was such a hotspot for new RP characters.. then it would be populated enough that a merge wouldnt be necessary.  </p><p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Most new</span> players that prefer RP would start on AB simply because it is a more populated server.  Theres no fun in RPing if your the only one <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </p><p>I do feel that RP Guilds and those that choose should be allowed to transfer to AB - I dont feel it's fair to further limit RPers from thier experience in the game. A quiet server can be limiting enough.</p><p>Maybe have 2 sets of code written or two seperate merges - and all the accounts with one toon with an RP tag in game go to AB and those without go to CB - dont know if it's possible. But somehow I am sure (read I hope) it can be sorted out and the majority can be happy with the outcome.  There is no way to please everyone - in the end there are bound to be people unhappy no matter what...</p><p>~ L ~</p>

<p>Very true, putting a Tag on CB doesn't hurt the players already on it. It is "Role-Play Preferred" EQ2 has not RP server policies. The RPing Community of LDL simply wants a flag to show we're here when a player makes a new character.</p><p>Nothing more. Nothing less.</p><p>It will not chase away a PVE oriented population. Many RPers are more then capable of raiding and such. There's fabled geared raiders on LDL that cannot hope to hold agro from my ranger for example. So I think its safe to say that RPers know what they are doing (at least in my case).</p><p>If anything PVE oriented players should be welcoming such a tag. It brings a close knit and loyal playerbase.</p>

<p><cite>Lizabeth@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I'm happy with things either way.. but as I have said before...  If LDL was such a hotspot for new RP characters.. then it would be populated enough that a merge wouldnt be necessary.  </p><p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Most new</span> players that prefer RP would start on AB simply because it is a more populated server.  Theres no fun in RPing if your the only one <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /> </p><p>I do feel that RP Guilds and those that choose should be allowed to transfer to AB - I dont feel it's fair to further limit RPers from thier experience in the game. A quiet server can be limiting enough.</p><p>Maybe have 2 sets of code written or two seperate merges - and all the accounts with one toon with an RP tag in game go to AB and those without go to CB - dont know if it's possible. But somehow I am sure (read I hope) it can be sorted out and the majority can be happy with the outcome.  There is no way to please everyone - in the end there are bound to be people unhappy no matter what...</p><p>~ L ~</p></blockquote><p>I can understand where SoE stand on this as well though. If they opened up "those that are RPers to have a free transfer to AB" up then what stops ANYONE that are not truly an RPer suddenly state they are just to transfer to AB for free? AB is large enough as they have said I think a huge influx from more players that SAY they are RPers come to AB could end up not doing what SoE is trying to do and get more balance. However in saying that, I have no problem asking SoE to please concider allowing Crushbone to carry the RP tag to make is a nicer transition for LDL.</p>