<DIV>unless you arent using cowering bind...just lettin you know that it hasnt been discovered on nektulos =] so you having all master roots is negated =P</DIV>

Just sounds like bad luck Tanatus.  From my experiences it's about 50/50 on appocalype breaking my root, I usually break root on a nuke that I get a lot of procs from my gear on.

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> SvipOman wrote:<BR> <DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Tanatus wrote:<BR> <P>Dude ... debuffs dont brake root anymore .... lol big deal.... <BR></P><FONT color=#ff0000>OMG True ? ? ? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .<SPAN>:smileyhappy:</SPAN></FONT><BR> <P>Crit or no crit it have no effect what so ever on stability of root</P> <P><FONT color=#ff0000>No [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] ? ?  . . . . . . . . . . . .<SPAN>:smileywink:</SPAN></FONT><BR></P> <P>but EACH tic of dot counts as a separate spell and I just proved to you....</P><FONT color=#ff0000><U><FONT color=#66ff00>U need to show me . i try about 100 times on singel taget in BM and grasp NEVER brake , if not on the <B>frist</B> tick ! ! <BR></FONT></U><BR>Sry 4 calling you post "whine" but this forum is sick ! . Warlocks only come here to power whine over ther Class . <BR>Its is wery sad too see when you love to play the Warlock class  .<BR>I have filmed about 30 encounter whit Fraps but my FTP is down atm but i will post them ASP <SPAN>:smileywink:</SPAN><BR><BR></FONT>If only initial tic would conciders for root stay/brake you would see root brakage on Apocal only upon landing spell but this is not how it work lol. Each tic chance of root brakage 15% now use to be 8% in other words: Apocal do FIVE tic total that is 15%X5 = 75% chance SINGLE spell will brake root. You gear proc counts toward that too.... Look place Aura line spell on and hit it with nuke if your gear proc chance of root brakage around 50%<BR><BR><FONT color=#ff0000>75% ? ? No way !   I can hold a mob in Grasp a full encounter if locky whitout reroot ! ! </FONT><FONT color=#ff0000><BR></FONT><FONT color=#ff0000>That will be 5 -8 spells include <B>2 dots</B> (War and Apo) ! <BR><BR>U need to show me plz <SPAN>:smileywink:</SPAN><BR></FONT> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Is this true?</P> <P>I always assumed that DoT's had a chance of breaking root on each tick.  I don't use my DoT's when soloing unless It's to get the last 10% of health off because of this.</P> <P>Can someone else confirm this? I'm at work atm and can't find out till tonight.  Goddamit, I need to know NOW...  Arrrrggghhh</P> <P>/Pushes the coffee to one side...<BR></P>

<div></div>tbh,in the past i always stayed away from a DoT like apocolypse when im soloing because of the chance to break, I dont really know whether it has a chance to break on the first tic or every tic. But recently ive been using it more and more, however it is the only DoT i use, if it breaks, i just cast thwart for the stun and then reroot. works for me.my cast cycle:cowering bindcurse of voidabhorrent giftaura of nihiltyspectral graspApocolypse..watch and wait.. if it breaks,.. then thwart andreroot.soul blisterdark distortionany breakages from root, then i cast nebula for stun and use spectral grasp to reroot until cooldown completes on cowering bind.nuke to fnish as required.to me its perfectly feasible to use a DoT like apocolypse as long as ur ready to react if it breaks. i dont see what the big deal is. i just watch cooldowns, timers and have a countercast always rdy <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><div></div><p>Message Edited by Pilgrim Divine on <span class=date_text>06-29-2006</span> <span class=time_text>05:17 AM</span>

<DIV>Nah using Cower M1 on green coned <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Tanatus wrote:<BR> <DIV>Nah using Cower M1 on green coned <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Well theres part of your root woes then.   Mobs have a better chance to resist roots that they are more than 20 levels above the spell level.   That was part of the root changes in LU 24.    You be better off "upgrading" to Cowering Bind Adept 3.</P> <P>From the update notes.</P> <P></P> <HR> <P><STRONG><FONT color=#ffcc00>*** Combat ***<BR><BR></FONT>General changes:</STRONG><BR>....</P> <P>- All hostile spells and arts that stun, mesmerize, root, fear, daze or stifle their targets will become increasingly more resistible when you are 20 levels above the spell level.<BR></P>

<DIV>Hint 1:</DIV> <DIV>Green conned mob is <lvl 65 ....</DIV> <DIV>Hint 2:</DIV> <DIV>Cower is lvl 47 spell</DIV> <DIV>Hint 3:</DIV> <DIV>47+20 =67 ..... </DIV> <DIV>Hint 4:</DIV> <DIV>67 = blue con ....</DIV>

- All hostile spells and arts that stun, mesmerize, root, fear, daze or stifle their targets will become increasingly more resistible when <u><b><font color="#ff0000">you</font></b></u> are 20 levels above the spell level.Hint 5.  <span>:smileytongue:</span><div></div>

<P>Hint 6:</P> <P>Its apply <STRONG><U>ONLY</U></STRONG> if mob + 20 levels above spell level ....</P>

Dajuuk's is copied straight from the LU24 notes.<div></div>

<div></div>Hint 7:Historically <a href="../view_profile?user.id=15375" target="_blank"><span>Tanatus</span></a> is ALWAYS right thus you should never try and argue with him <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><div></div>

lol

rofl endaur...reason why i stop arguing with him =]

<blockquote><hr>Patrix513 wrote:<div></div>rofl endaur...reason why i stop arguing with him =]<hr></blockquote>Exactly.<div></div>

<DIV>I miss my pre LU13 warlock =(</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Playing my illusionist for the time being.</DIV>

So if the level resist doesn't matter why not use your 1st root?