Achievement line.

[Geekyone]

<div></div><div>I was looking at the lines of Achievements and although it might sound like it goes against a Strong forboding Paladin, Intelligence is looking about the smartest move for the versitile paladin.</div><div> </div><div>Offers good additions to our heals and such, which, imo is one of our stronger points as a tank.  Plus we all have a symbol in our Secondary slot anyway, and don't want to be forced into using a weapon we might not like or able to find a good one if we were to choose another Stat Achievement line.</div><div> </div><div>INT leaves our weapon choose open...doen't require a Great Axe, or Great Sword to use like the rest...</div><div> </div><div>Just MHO.</div><p>Message Edited by Geekyone on <span class="date_text">04-07-2006</span><span class="time_text">07:54 AM</span></p>

[oneeyedlotus]

I dont know about you but i dont run around with a symbol in my secondary slot, i do have one in my ranged slot.....<div></div>

[robusticus]

<div></div><p>For a solo pally or small grp pally I would agree, it is a nice choice to make.  If you're MT'ing full groups or raids it doesn't make much sense.</p><p>Who has a symbol in their secondary slot?  Or did you mean Ranged? <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Turb]

I was messing around solo with a symbol in my secondary slot. Looks pretty cool actually, in an odd way <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />If I went INT, I'd max the +heal but probably not spell dam.

[Geekyone]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>robusticus wrote:<div></div><p>For a solo pally or small grp pally I would agree, it is a nice choice to make.  If you're MT'ing full groups or raids it doesn't make much sense.</p><p>Who has a symbol in their secondary slot?  Or did you mean Ranged? <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><hr></blockquote><p>Sorry, ment ranged...I have a sheild in my Secondary.</p><p>Off topic:  I'm left handed, so I should have my sheild in my right hand and my sword in my left.  But have found out, the game won't let me put a shield in my right hand.</p>

[MadDog_TM]

<div></div><p>I just switched over to the INT line myself and I am having a blast with it.  Previously I was doing the STR line and did not find it to my liking.  But my situation is that this is my alt lvl 58 pally.  I have a 70 conjuror which is my main.  As far as raid go...I dont think I will ever be MT in raid and usally guild want the conjuror on for raid.  We have a steady guard who is always on as our MT in raids.  Groups are hard to find and most of the time I solo for about 2hrs or so before I find a group.  So I wanted something where I could kill fast and do some quest and so far INT line is working out great.  The critical hit totaly rocks...with only 2 points in there I seem to critical hit nearly 40 - 50% of the time....cant wait to max it out.</p><p>Just my 2 cents...this setup fits my playing style well</p>

[robusticus]

<div></div><div>I'm currently swapping between a +5 defense doll and a flowing throught 4 tome, in my ranged slot, depending on what I'm doing.  Neither of these are a symbol.  However, I would gladly swap in a +5 disruption symbol in ranged slot if that would make smite work.  But that's a different thread.  So damned frustrated I need to smite something but my smite is broken at the moment adding to the frustration so check back with me after the next update and with any kind of luck it'll be a simple mistake that is fixed.</div><div> </div><div>I noticed that about the left-hand-right-hand thing, but with my ranger.  I have a long rapier and a short dagger dual wielding and it is backwards in terms of which weapon goes in which hand.  Swapping the slots didn't do anything for it.</div><div> </div><div>Anyway, on this topic, think Constantine, the movie.  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div><p>Message Edited by robusticus on <span class="date_text">04-07-2006</span><span class="time_text">10:49 AM</span></p>

[Majorminor]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Geekyone wrote:<div></div><div> don't want to be forced into using a weapon we might not like or able to find a good one if we were to choose another Stat Achievement line.</div><div> </div><div>INT leaves our weapon choose open...doen't require a Great Axe, or Great Sword to use like the rest...</div><div> </div><div>Just MHO.</div><p>Message Edited by Geekyone on <span class="date_text">04-07-2006</span><span class="time_text">07:54 AM</span></p><hr></blockquote><p>Pretty sure that only the 1 of the abilites in each line requires the axe/hammer.  Hammer ground requires mace,hammer, etc.  And the axe line with the haste requires the axe.  But i'm pretty sure after those abilites the required weapon doesn't matter.  I think you would still get the extra hate from the str line using a sword/hammer.  just wouldn't be able to get the attack speed attack in.  If that makes sense, and if I read everything right. </p><p> </p><p>I usually MT for our guild when the Guard isn't around so I am going sta/str.  But even if I didn't MT at all, just like the looks and sounds of that line. /shrug</p>

[robusticus]

<div></div><p>STR line?  Passive hate gain... could make aggro interesting <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>I mis-spoke... apparently those dolls and books are also considered symbols and can be used to activate smite (2nd ability in INT line).  But that doesn't change the fact that you'll get lower dps that way, if you've got a good 2 hander more mana giving STR than INT...</p>

[Rasplori]

Stamina line for me -> More HP + Divine Aura (when it works) is yummy.  STR line is nice too.  INT line is cool if you're a solo pally.  The other two lines don't really interest me much.<div></div>

[Impetus]

<blockquote><hr>robusticus wrote:<div></div><div>I'm currently swapping between a +5 defense doll and a flowing throught 4 tome, in my ranged slot, depending on what I'm doing. Neither of these are a symbol. However, I would gladly swap in a +5 disruption symbol in ranged slot if that would make smite work. But that's a different thread. So damned frustrated I need to smite something but my smite is broken at the moment adding to the frustration so check back with me after the next update and with any kind of luck it'll be a simple mistake that is fixed.</div><div></div><div>I noticed that about the left-hand-right-hand thing, but with my ranger. I have a long rapier and a short dagger dual wielding and it is backwards in terms of which weapon goes in which hand. Swapping the slots didn't do anything for it.</div><div></div><div>Anyway, on this topic, think Constantine, the movie. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div><p>Message Edited by robusticus on <span class="date_text">04-07-2006</span><span class="time_text">10:49 AM</span></p><hr></blockquote>You actually need to use a doll/symbol/tome in the offhand slot, the ranged slot is irrelevant. Basically the Smite AA means you need to give up your shield to cast the spell.In other words, main hand/secondary/ranged should be 1h weapon/symbol/symbol NOT 1h weapon/shield/symbol and NOT 2h weapon/2h weapon/symbol.The spell and heal criticals AAs will still work fine without a symbol in secondary. Kinda like not being able to use Hammer Ground without a hammer/mace but getting the other STA benefits.One other point, apparently wards *do* crit, but there is a bug where if they crit, they don't work right. Might want to check the dev tracker if you're interested. There was a dev post on the Mystic boards.<p>Message Edited by Impetus on <span class="date_text">04-10-2006</span><span class="time_text">05:39 PM</span></p>

[robusticus]

<div></div><p>Thanks much, that's what I was looking for...</p>