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Archangel
01-23-2005, 09:51 PM
<DIV>Hey all you pallys!!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I am a lvl 34 and very happy with my pally bit the only complaint is the following:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>We cant use a bow or equip anything in that slot and i find it to be a waste cause why cant they give us something to put there at least just for stats!</DIV> <DIV>I mean berzerkers , guardians , hek all of the other fighter classes get something they can put there that increase stats so why cant we ! I mean they have bows that increas agi and str so we could use those. Isn't it bad enouf that we have no equipment advantage to say a berzerker or guardian , we already use less than they do , we cant use tower shields and halberts and dual wield but I COULD CARE LESS BOUT THOSE ANYWAYS! I would just like to use that wasted space with ANYTHING that can gives us some resistances or stats , I aint greedy: )</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>So , unless I dont know of an item that goes there , pls guys , try to complain to SOE bout this and make some noise , cause we deserve at least that.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Pls give me your opinions as well and keep this thread going till the SOE peeps see it!! REVOLT!!</DIV>

hylozoist
01-24-2005, 05:36 AM
<DIV>True, there are wasted slots.  Priest classes also have this problem.  But, maybe this was what SoE intended?  It is quite a big loss in comparison at higher levels in terms of stats, power and health.</DIV>

-=Zer0
01-24-2005, 06:06 PM
No bows for Paladins atm, we don't really need them though. We have ranged spells to pull with.

Darki
01-24-2005, 08:26 PM
It's not about pulling it's about the extra stats.

Tepic_Snowm
01-24-2005, 08:32 PM
<DIV>Two ways to go about it really:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>1) Create an item for us that adds these missing stats. Cape would be pretty cool <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>2) Remove stats from any items that take up this slot</DIV>

Archangel
01-24-2005, 09:55 PM
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=4><FONT size=3>I love the idea of a cape!!:smileytongue: </FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=4><FONT size=3>It would be a great add to pallys to see them in armor and a nice cape and it makes sense to add this cause this is what paladins normally have on them in the first place and we ca make ourselves look different from berzerkers and guardians and give us something that they dont have!!</FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=4><FONT size=3></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=4><FONT size=3>SOE can make it like a heritage quest for pallys!!</FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=4><FONT size=3></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=4><FONT size=3>Does anyone know of a place where we can suggest a new quest?? If you do pls let me know and if you like the idea of a pally cape heritage quest , make some noise and lets fight for it!!</FONT></DIV></FONT></FONT>

Strongm
01-24-2005, 10:27 PM
<DIV>I two think we should get something to fill in for the missing stats, not only do bows give decent stats but they are also really good for instant long range pulls. So yes it would be nice to have a cape but also nice to use a bow its not really non paladin like to use a bow so why would we not be able to? No matter how they resolve this I will be happy, it just has to be addressed.</DIV>

Roble
01-24-2005, 11:57 PM
<DIV>They could also add Holy (or unholy) items for Paladins/SK/Healers to use in that slot.  Like charms, tokens, or stuff like that.  Maybe a symbol of your faith.</DIV>

sliderhouserules
01-25-2005, 01:02 AM
<DIV>I see at least one post in this thread asking for a nerf on other classes and I find that to be very bad form...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Is the basis for this request just the fact that you are looking at these empty slots and thinking what a waste, I wish I had something to put in there?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Or are you looking at your character and your class and seeing a deficiency, and are posing a valid solution to make up for this deficiency?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I doubt it's the latter. I'm pretty sure it's the former.</DIV>

Tepic_Snowm
01-25-2005, 01:29 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> sliderhouserules wrote:<BR> <DIV>I see at least one post in this thread asking for a nerf on other classes and I find that to be very bad form...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Is the basis for this request just the fact that you are looking at these empty slots and thinking what a waste, I wish I had something to put in there?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Or are you looking at your character and your class and seeing a deficiency, and are posing a valid solution to make up for this deficiency?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I doubt it's the latter. I'm pretty sure it's the former.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I only suggested taking stats off these items because it would probably be easier than creating a whole new range of items just for people that cant use them. Im not calling nerf on anyone, just looking for easy ways to get balance.</DIV>

FireDragon
01-25-2005, 02:48 AM
a holy symbol would be a good idea.Or maybe a book or something.. doenst have to blast things! Just for effect and statistics..

Roble
01-25-2005, 03:16 AM
<DIV>Do you really think it would be easier to nerf hundreds of items and deal with all the coding and unhappy customers than to make a few items that do not even need graphics?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Might want to rethink that logic.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I am sure we will get something eventually.</DIV>

Dasein
01-25-2005, 04:21 AM
<DIV>All classes should get capes/cloaks, mostly because they're cool and would add some greatly needed customization to character looks. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I know in other games, you only get the bonuses for the weapon you are currently using - thus, if you're using a bow, you don't get your sword and shield bonuses and vice versa. </DIV>

Narfism
01-25-2005, 08:01 AM
<DIV>All classes should have an equal amount of slots that they are able to fill.  To think otherwise is just ludicrous.  For those that cannot use the range slot items, how about adding an extra earring slot, cape slot, or even a [Removed for Content] ring slot.  Anything is better than being left unequal to other classes.  Only time will tell what happens but I hope that this doesn't continue for much longer.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

Valian1
01-25-2005, 09:40 AM
<DIV><FONT size=2>Well duh some classes will get to do stuff that others cant, its how things work. For example, Berserkers get to use a bow because, they berserkers, the description of them is basically able to use every weapon, paladins cannot. I dont think id be a real bad idea to add some stuff we can put, but theres no reason to complain so much about it, when you did, pick that job, and every job has strengths and weaknesses. Some fighters can use a bow, we get to heal; berserkers get a flaming hand, we get a horse, strengths and weaknesses, in every class.</FONT></DIV><p>Message Edited by Valian164 on <span class=date_text>01-24-2005</span> <span class=time_text>08:41 PM</span>

Warg
01-25-2005, 08:42 PM
<DIV>i dont think its a question of whether we should be able to use a bow or not. its more a question of why would we have a slot for which we cant put anything in. like someone said earlier maybe a item / charm would be ideal for this problem. similar stats to bows but is equipable by all not just paladins.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>a question on this same issue, why in eq1 have bows that paladins/SKs equip. </DIV>

Warg
01-25-2005, 08:46 PM
<DIV>i hate that >< sorry for secondary post :p</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>but to further move what i was saying;</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>why in eq1 have bows that paladins/SKs equip and a ghoulbane that is paladin only. while in eq2 have a ghoulbane that all sword wielding class equip and no bows for paladins/SKs ? the logical doesnt stand imo. sony should stick with one thing and not flip flop like john kerry.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>~nytefire</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

Darki
01-25-2005, 08:55 PM
<blockquote><hr>Warger wrote:<DIV>i hate that >< sorry for secondary post :p</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>but to further move what i was saying;</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>why in eq1 have bows that paladins/SKs equip and a ghoulbane that is paladin only. while in eq2 have a ghoulbane that all sword wielding class equip and no bows for paladins/SKs ? the logical doesnt stand imo. sony should stick with one thing and not flip flop like john kerry.</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>~nytefire</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV> </DIV><hr></blockquote>Sony has stated many times that EQ1 != EQ2.It is a different world, in a parallel universe if you will. Just because something was one way in EQ1 does not mean it has to be that way in EQ2.On that note, I agree. Bow or no Bow, I don't really care, just give us something we can put there to as a stat item.Though it has occured to me that we might not get something to put there since we get a concentration based strength, stamina, and wisdom buff that the other fighter based classes to not get.

Deathspell
01-25-2005, 09:00 PM
That lay-out is a universal one, so I understand it in a programmer's way, but I agree it's a waste when it cannot be used at all.This is also with Wizards and mages, I think, they cannot equip bows either.But yes, it would be cool if we got an item like a cape or symbol to put there <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />I think cape is the best idea, like The Red Knight <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

RSta
01-26-2005, 06:21 PM
Let's not nerf the other castes rather let's request something that clerics and pally's could use, a capes adding some stats would be nice and fitting.

Andev
01-27-2005, 06:12 PM
<DIV>Already started a thread relating to this topic</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=chars&message.id=1829" target=_blank>http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=chars&message.id=1829</A></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Click to view other comments</DIV><p>Message Edited by Andevar on <span class=date_text>01-27-2005</span> <span class=time_text>05:13 AM</span>