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Tears_
01-06-2005, 11:33 PM
I had some choices for traits - one was :-Jess' Holy Sanctuary : Replenishes Health instantly. this replenishment does not have a casting time nor does it cost power but it has a significant re-use timerOhh now thats [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot] usefull, a 2nd lay on hands, and a worth while ability to turn the tide in any fight where the healers run oopWRONG !!! - This ability is on the same timer as Lay on hands - so one you cast one the other is down - WASTE OF A TRAIT !!Zarn's Arrogant Challenge : Taunts all enemies in a single encounterWow this would use very usefull, we have single taunt, AoE taunt, rescue and now another oneWRONG AGAIN !! - This ability uses the same timer as your normal AoE taunt - so you cant use both - WASTE OF A TRAIT AGAIN !!Just some caution to other paladins - if this is the norm, avoid wasting your spec's on these useless abilaties.

Disaster20
01-06-2005, 11:46 PM
<DIV>From talking to some friends of different classes, I guess it is the same way for them.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>These new training abilities may not be meant to be completely new, but rather be a tad better than the other ability on the same timer.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Not really sure, I was hoping we would get some stuff we hadn't seen already.</DIV>

Tears_
01-06-2005, 11:58 PM
I dont se ehow these can be classed as upgrades - surely a good app3 or even a new app4 or adept is going to be better on an existing skill - still a complete waste of an icon space imo

Garganim
01-07-2005, 12:10 AM
<DIV>Is this the new trait or the newly implemented training?  The point of the training was that it is an UPGRADE to some existing skills that last longer, do more damage, absorb more damage, heal for more, etc that have a longer useful timespan over the previous versions.  This is from the patch notes and the way I read it, these are almost like "free adept 3 level" upgrades.   What level is your character?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Hope this helps...</DIV>

Tears_
01-07-2005, 12:29 AM
ASye cleares things up a bit - i guess just getting them all at once aided to confusion

Hawkt
01-07-2005, 12:55 AM
<DIV>So, right now its seems best to try to use the traits to boost your HP, or add resists, or add power Regen.</DIV>

Historios
01-07-2005, 01:35 AM
<DIV>Also can be a tad more useful since they dont use power, same skill with no power usage seems to be an improvement to me</DIV>

od
01-07-2005, 01:38 AM
<DIV>the ones I have use power alright...</DIV>

Seomon
01-07-2005, 02:29 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Tears_UK wrote:<BR><BR>Jess' Holy Sanctuary : Replenishes Health instantly. this replenishment does not have a casting time nor does it cost power but it has a significant re-use timer<BR><BR>Ohh now thats [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot] usefull, a 2nd lay on hands, and a worth while ability to turn the tide in any fight where the healers run oop<BR>WRONG !!! - This ability is on the same timer as Lay on hands - so one you cast one the other is down - WASTE OF A TRAIT !!<BR><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>I'm not calling it a waste of a trait. I have App 3 of Virtuous Touch (LoH upgrade) and Jess' heals for more than that.<BR>

TormEQ2
01-07-2005, 02:31 AM
<DIV>I went with the Faithful Swing like two hander Skill. Didn't get a chance to test it out though since I've been busy getting my Artistry skill up <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

Sedden
01-07-2005, 02:53 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Seomon wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Tears_UK wrote:<BR><BR>Jess' Holy Sanctuary : Replenishes Health instantly. this replenishment does not have a casting time nor does it cost power but it has a significant re-use timer<BR><BR>Ohh now thats [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot] usefull, a 2nd lay on hands, and a worth while ability to turn the tide in any fight where the healers run oop<BR>WRONG !!! - This ability is on the same timer as Lay on hands - so one you cast one the other is down - WASTE OF A TRAIT !!<BR><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>I'm not calling it a waste of a trait. I have App 3 of Virtuous Touch (LoH upgrade) and Jess' heals for more than that.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> Its not a waste of a Training. The point the devs are putting with Training is to make certian skills better. The lvl 30 Training Jess' Holy Sanctuary is supposed to be a upgrade of Virtuous Touch with a LOWER recast time aka heals for more or the same as Virtuous Touch but has a 15 min recast instead of a 30 min recast

Spiritkill
01-07-2005, 03:00 AM
<DIV>Beat me to it Sedden. Im very happy with the new traits, the lower re-cast time is HUGE help. I get a 800+ heal every 15 minutes, what else could you ask for?</DIV>

Cloudcr
01-07-2005, 04:51 AM
<DIV>Can someone post the level 30 training skills? Also, did anyone try the upgrade to power cleave? How much does it heal?</DIV>

Spiritkill
01-07-2005, 11:15 AM
<DIV>Can't post the skills, but the upgrade to the spell your talking about (the healing skill is Faithful swing) is Blazing Faith. Unfortunatly, it has no heal to it.</DIV>