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Mokav
12-28-2004, 08:46 PM
<DIV>Something I have not seen is a comparison of the benefits of the different Adept3's available to Paladins.  I have seen discussion of Blessed Aid Adept3, but nothing on the wards or offensive abilities.  If you have any Adept3's please share which you have, what the effect you get (ballpark numbers at least please), and what level you have currently attained.  This is a topic of huge practicial importance to us all so please chime in!  I will start with the information I have been able to collect so far, and update this top post as more information is shared.  If you have Adept3 information on skills other than these listed, please share by all means!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><U><STRONG>Blessed Aid</STRONG></U></DIV> <DIV>App3- Heals for ~280hps for 80 Power at Lvl 30</DIV> <DIV>Adept3- Heals for 442hps for 96 Power at Lvl 32+</DIV> <DIV>Rare Req- Palladium</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><U><STRONG>Faithful Zeal</STRONG></U></DIV> <DIV>App1- Wards ~218 dmg</DIV> <DIV>Adept3- Wards 438 dmg for 99 Power at Lvl 32+</DIV> <DIV>Rare Req- Jasper</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><U><STRONG>Demonstration of Faith</STRONG></U></DIV> <DIV>Adept1- Wards 254 dmg at Lvl 30</DIV> <DIV>Adept3- Wards 285 dmg at Lvl 30</DIV> <DIV>Rare Req- Coral</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><U><STRONG>Blinding Light</STRONG></U></DIV> <DIV>Adept3- Much more effective taunt.  (No other group taunt until Lvl50 so the necessity here is obvious.)</DIV> <DIV>Rare Req- Jasper</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><U><STRONG>Oath Strike</STRONG></U></DIV> <DIV>Adept1- DD ~200 plus 95 DoT</DIV> <DIV>Adept3- Maxed out seems to hit for initial 200-320 (depending on mob level, etc. usually 250-280) + an initial immediate 30, plus 3 ticks of 50-60.<BR></DIV> <DIV>Rare Req- Ruthenium?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><STRONG><U>Omen of Battle</U></STRONG></DIV> <DIV>Adept1- ~80-100 DD for 19 power at Lvl 30</DIV> <DIV>Adept3- 100-140 DD for 26 power at Lvl 32+</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thanks for the data guys, I have updated this post to reflect the first 5 or so replies.  Please feel free to share any others you might have, and if by some stroke of luck you have a Master, pass that along so we can drool on your boots.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV><p>Message Edited by Mokavak on <span class=date_text>12-30-2004</span> <span class=time_text>07:16 AM</span>

AntoniusPurebla
12-28-2004, 09:58 PM
<DIV>These are all at level 27-28 or so (so many will continue to get stronger as I level since many like Faithful Zeal are still yellow or orange).</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Faithful Zeal</DIV> <DIV>App I - 218ish </DIV> <DIV>Adept III - 330ish </DIV> <DIV>Roughly 60% more power used for 60% more ward. Increases hate (supposedly) too though. It IS blocking more damage as a I level so it IS more effective on a per power cost basis than DoF.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>DoF</DIV> <DIV>Adept III - 285ish</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

Numskul
12-29-2004, 04:22 AM
<DIV>Hmm, I think that your Blessed Aid is a bit off.  At level 26, my app3 Blessed Aid healed for over 270 and it's been increasing every level.  Not nitpicking, just trying to help the accuracy.  By level 30, I bet mine will be around 300.  Does wis affect how much you heal with Blessed Aid?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Tegra, 26 paladin, Lavastorm</DIV>

Renn
12-29-2004, 11:31 AM
Adept 3 Faithful Zeal maxed out is 438 absorb for 99 powerAdept 3 Blessed Aid maxed out is 442 for 96 power.Adept 3 Oath Strike maxed out seems to hit for initial 200-320 (depending on mob level, etc. usually 250-280) + an initial immediate 30, plus 3 ticks of 50-60.Adept 3 Omen of Battle maxed out hits for about 100-140 for 26 power.

Karlen
12-29-2004, 05:07 PM
I am level 21. Do people think it is worth upgrading DoF to Adept III (if I can find someone with the recipe)? Does it become obsolete when it's replaced in a few levels? I notice it uses less power than it's replacement -- will an adept III DoF retain some level of usefulness? Currently I have it at App III and notice it has begun maxxing out a lot lately.I don't currently have any Adept III's, but this is the one that I have been considering hunting down the most as it's usefulness is immediately apparent in most situations (especially since I rarely group with healers).

Mokav
12-30-2004, 08:21 PM
<DIV>Thanks for the data all!  I have updated the first post to reflect the replies so far.  If you have any additional  nfo on other Adept3's or Masters, I'm sure we would all be interested to hear that as well.  Thanks!</DIV>

Deathspell
03-15-2005, 07:43 PM
I've just found a rare in Antonica and if I had to make a Lvl 20-29 Adept3, which one would be most useful?I was thinking of Blessed Aid or Blessing of the Penitent myself, but what are your opinions?

JanuHu
03-15-2005, 08:13 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Rennyn wrote:<BR>Adept 3 Faithful Zeal maxed out is 438 absorb for 99 power<BR><BR>Adept 3 Blessed Aid maxed out is 442 for 96 power.<BR><BR>Adept 3 Oath Strike maxed out seems to hit for initial 200-320 (depending on mob level, etc. usually 250-280) + an initial immediate 30, plus 3 ticks of 50-60.<BR><BR>Adept 3 Omen of Battle maxed out hits for about 100-140 for 26 power.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>At Apprentice IV: </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Blessed Aid goes for about 356-357.  Seems like there's a fractional point in there somewhere.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Oath Strike hits for 190-256, additional tick of 30, and 3 ticks of 45-55.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Omen of Battle hits for 95-120 points of damage.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Unless you stumble on a rare you can sell for ungodly coin, the cost of upgrading beyond Adept 1 or App IV just doesn't add up.</DIV>

Deathspell
03-15-2005, 08:36 PM
>Unless you stumble on a rare you can sell for ungodly coin, the cost of upgrading beyond Adept 1 or App IV just doesn't add up.yeh, that's what I was affraid of, the difference in damage doesn't justify its cost.I have 90% Adept 1 and the rest is App IV, maybe it's not worth afer all to use a rare harvest then.

MeridianR
03-15-2005, 09:37 PM
<blockquote><hr>Deathspell wrote:I've just found a rare in Antonica and if I had to make a Lvl 20-29 Adept3, which one would be most useful?I was thinking of Blessed Aid or Blessing of the Penitent myself, but what are your opinions?<hr></blockquote>Antonica is tier2 which means spells from L10-19 are upgraded (Crusader skills)

Iustus
03-16-2005, 12:39 AM
<DIV>Take a look at this thread:</DIV> <DIV><A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=10&message.id=7852" target=_blank>http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=10&message.id=7852</A></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>If you can put in the level you tested these at, and naked stats, I will add your info.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>-I</DIV>

Brigh
03-18-2005, 05:30 PM
<P>Oath Strike adept 3 made from Palladium.</P> <P> </P> <P> </P>