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Sejreia
10-28-2017, 07:32 PM
When I was crafting those on the Work Bench, I noticed this;<br /><img src="https://i.imgur.com/Rao9qeo.jpg" class="bbCodeImage LbImage" alt="[IMG]" /><br />This seems to be true for all of them crafted on the Work Bench.<br /> <br />When I would normally get back or keep components due to Brell or expertise reward I didn't get the pages back, which I expect is intended. However; when I stopped the craft, producing a failed pristine, I did receive the Celestial Teachings: Elemental Channeling page in my bag instead of a Fire Tyrant page.<br /> <br />So, far I haven't found this on the Alchemy table, but have for the Engraved Desk;<br /><img src="https://i.imgur.com/gd9wWaS.jpg" class="bbCodeImage LbImage" alt="[IMG]" /><br /> <br />Of coarse, I must go back to Oliver a few times to test them all since each book only gives three combines regardless of there being 5 different Book Teachings within them.

Sejreia
10-28-2017, 09:20 PM
Okay, sorry, this is turning out to be a little more troubling and we will need help from another crafter, perhaps. This can only be seen from fully crafting the items.<br />I recrafted all those on the Work Bench (those tagged Technique: Artificing) and every one of them persisted with the same results. (Elemental Channeling page being crafted from bars 1,2, and 3 completion and no pristine).<br />I moved to the Chemistry Table (those tagged with Technique: Chemistry {apologize for calling it Alchemy before} and the first combines you see are of Stone Soul.<br />When I moved on to craft Bastion of Iron, the bug appeared and did return a Stone Soul page to me when I halted the combine early. Now I'm wondering if it's related, somehow, to the first I craft on the station. <img src="/images/smilies/wink.gif" alt="Wink" /> ***<br />I continued to the next, Earthen Phalanx, and the same was present. Really could use another crafter on this because this problem has the potential to either devastate or be used to exploit. Thanks.<br /> <br />*** I decided to move over to the Engraving Desk (those of Technique: Scribing) real quick. I crafted Ethereal Gift (Ancient) (starting at the bottom, lvl 115 this time) and Bonds of Blood (Ancient). Ethereal Gift produced Feedback Loop Page and Bonds of Blood returned Anti-Life. So maybe the earlier find was just a coincidence. Really need another fine soul to reproduce!

kikatt
10-28-2017, 10:34 PM
I can confirm anti-life from bonds of blood and elemental from the tyrant

Sejreia
10-28-2017, 10:40 PM
Thank you Kikatt <img src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" alt="Smile" /> So it's predictable, sweet.

kikatt
10-28-2017, 11:04 PM
elemental channeling from frost pyre

Uncle
10-29-2017, 01:19 AM
ok looking at this it seems like you need one page(drop rate unknown or how), one book( three charges would prefer unlimited personally, aquiring unknown), the 200 planar engery(unknown what that is at this time or how aquired). Looks like the system on paper might be less painful then in the past.. lastly are all ascseions going to this format or just the one in testing.

Fixmore
10-29-2017, 03:09 PM
Are these Artisan capable or specific crafters?

EmJay
10-29-2017, 04:19 PM
<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Fixmore"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Fixmore said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6473401#post-6473401" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">Are these Artisan capable or specific crafters?</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>The recipes say "artisan".

Fixmore
10-29-2017, 04:35 PM
<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="EmJay"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">EmJay said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6473410#post-6473410" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">The recipes say "artisan".</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>Thanks, dont have the recipes yet that I have found.

kikatt
10-29-2017, 05:27 PM
New thing. I made all the recipes on the workbench... on the scribing table.... and then i go to the chemistry table.. and no geomancer spells. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie12" alt="o_O" title="Er... what? o_O" /> Is it because I'm an alchemist? i will look with my sage after i go kill something in a dungeon.

Sejreia
10-29-2017, 06:00 PM
Kikatt, not sure if this may be what happened to you, but I noticed; if you filtered for those books at the table and you use up said books (craft 3) and then zone, when you select that filter from the drop down, returning to any station, it will not show. You have to retag the books for your filter. However, if you stay in whatever instance you are in and use a new recipe book, they automatically appear again. And, I'm doing all this on my jeweler, will try on my sage also, to make sure it isn't something else. My Alchemist isn't leveled yet. Hope this helps.<br /> <br />Also, to the others asking. Recipes and materials for these are on Oliver.

kikatt
10-29-2017, 07:13 PM
Actually its because there was a filter on! <img src="/images/smilies/redface.gif" alt="Oops" />

Sejreia
10-29-2017, 09:05 PM
After crafting every one of them again, studying pics, etc., can finally see and write what's happened rather quickly.<br />All the recipes found in all 6 Elementalist books (Artificing) will produce an Elemental Channeling page with 1,2, 3 bar completion. All the recipes in all 6 Thaumaturgist books (Scribing) will produce an Anti-Life page. All the recipes found in all 6 Etherealist books (Scribing) will produce a Feedback Loop page. All the recipes found in all 6 Geomancer books (Chemistry) will produce a Stone Soul page.

Fixmore
10-29-2017, 10:15 PM
Are the books dropped or how are they acquired?

kikatt
10-29-2017, 11:37 PM
The books and mats are on crafting buff dude (Oliver?- they guy who blew up and they had to put back together) after you reach 110. Planar essence and the pages are specific to the ascension upgrades; they also use some of the new mats. They are crafted on the sage/scribe's desk, the alchemist/chemistry table (geomancer), and the jeweler/tinker/workbench (elementalist). Since 1 book for each level (journeyman, adept, expert, master, grandmaster, and ancient) of each of the four ascension classes, and limited to 3 uses per book, 1 complete class set will take 2 of each ... total of 12 books (5 spells each level.. 6 books [1 per level]) I believe it's 6 pages per combine plus other mats and the planar energy.

Sejreia
10-30-2017, 06:35 AM
yes, these only require 1 page per combine, thus the alert that they return a different page than used to craft.