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Siner
12-18-2004, 04:10 AM
Dinged 30 and I realized that I had some big changes in store. So I wanted to start a thread that solicts advice from some of the higher SKs on several different areas at this stage of our career.Disclaimer: this is not a whine about our class thread. Lets try to keep it constructive and get useful info out.1) Weapons:We now have a skill of 150 and can use feyiron. I am trying to keep up both crushing and slashing. Currently using skullcrusher as my 1hb, skullsprainer as my 2hb (when i am not MT), and bought feyiron broadsword from the npc store to keep up my 1hs (couldn't longer justify breaking out the level 20 class sword to for the 1hs skill uping).Did the zek quest and the 1hb dropped (Blood somethingorother) but a mage won it. Gonna try to buy it from him today if I can. There are currently no weapons crafters making feyiron on my server yet so that rules that out for the time being. Maybe we can compile a list of dropped (and who drops them and where) and questable weapons that people are using in the 30+ game.2) Armor:Similar to weapons, we can use feyiron plate/vanguard now. Did a quick check on the store bought stuff (pc crafting recipes for feyiron are broke atm i hear). The lowest level AQ (gloves/boots) are still better then feyiron at 30 but soon I will probably need to start transitioning over unless I can find some drops.Got a nice drop on a kite shield in varsoons from the sparks or forge skellies (better then the waterlogged kite I was using from Paddlefoot at Behmoth lake in Nek). Also go a very nice pair of gloves in varsoons at the same place but they are 160 Hvy req i think, so have to wait for 32ish.Jewelry - cept for the kiln fired bracelet from clay guardian quest in Varsoons, still using full set of tier2 pristine gold/agate. Saw tier 3 pristine jewelry but the only crafter on our server making it right now wants 5G a piece so I am holding off on that.3) Zones:Did Varsoons from 26-30 but I am really really tired of it. Got flagged for Zek and EL. Both seem to have nice solo areas near the docks for those downtimes between groups. Saw a quest to kill fairies on the docks of Zek, but I don't want those yellow faires to become aggro (to add to the wasps) so I passed on that. People seem to be doing soloing turtles on the beach in Zek. As for EL tried a few talons solo outside of the fort and they where pretty easy. Killed 25 or so and only saw orc meat though. Any other zone you guys/gals doing?4) Spells:Just got Lucans pact and haven't played wiht it much. Anybody know if it better then knights stance (adept1) for MTing? Knight stance says it gives you better blocking chance. Lucan's gives resists. Have been unable to quantify the increase in defense on either. Do we need a bone to make the illusion work (I heard that some collections quest give you illusion items but that you need a bone form the type of creature that you want to illusion to befor it will work)?What spells are you guys consider make or break at this level?5) Quests:Besides weapons/armor quests mentioned above, what quests in general are you guys working on?Edit: in the jewelry part.<p>Message Edited by Sineri2 on <span class=date_text>12-17-2004</span> <span class=time_text>03:25 PM</span>

12-18-2004, 05:59 AM
<DIV>There is alot of half named in Zek, and kill 300 orcs for a belt, if xping there 2 lvs i would think you would have got alot of new jewelry. 32 maybe go to EL and do RE have a chest and a leg quest + some lv 40ish gear, but stats dosnt seems do be to good for that lv. Named bear in EL can drop heavy armor forarm. No really luck on boots/helm/gloves/shoulder for lv 30ish.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>And for lucan's pact i have it on all the time (illusion undead form is either bugged or they removed it).</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>For quest take them all, some are lv restricted, but do take all quest you can, about the kill xx amount of mobs quest, is ok to have going, if you move on with out finish it, you can always delet it.</DIV>

Zoradan
12-18-2004, 06:21 AM
<DIV>Gratz on 30! Only a hand full of us on Nec server..</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Wepons: Keep in mind there is a difrance between FeyIRON and FeySTEEL, steel is better both in dps and stats, just an fyi. I have found a big lacking in 2 handed wepons but am just starting to look, as for one handers, there is starfall, Feysteel Morningstar (scepter as it's called), at 31 there is the feysteel broadsword.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Check your broker for them if you dont see them drop, I have seen many scepters drop and curently have a Sword.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Zek is a good place, so is EL, RV and RE, dont sell your self short staying in one spot only.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>As for accessorie items, rings, bracers, ect, I use a lot of player crafted stuff, but there is a nice easy quest ring in EL: Turn left comming off the doc follow the beatch to the wall, and look for a scarecrow, it's an easy even soloable quest for a nice ring.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Z-</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

Ixnay
12-18-2004, 07:01 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Zoradan wrote:<BR> <DIV>Gratz on 30! Only a hand full of us on Nec server..</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Wepons: Keep in mind there is a difrance between FeyIRON and FeySTEEL, steel is better both in dps and stats, just an fyi. I have found a big lacking in 2 handed wepons but am just starting to look</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV>Let's clarify something please.  I am a weaponsmith on the Blackburrow server, and am presently making Pristine Forged Feyiron weapons.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I don't know about any differences between dropped Feyiron and Feysteel weapons.  What I do know is that I've compared the differences between the Pristine Forged Feyiron weapons I make and Feysteel weapons that are dropped but otherwise have the exact same name, and the player made Pristine Feyiron's are better.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>In some cases, a dropped Feysteel weapon may have a slightly better stat or two than the same type of Pristine Forged Feyiron weapon, but in every case I've seen, the player made Pristine Feyiron weapon will have noticably better base damage with same or lower delay.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>How do you tell the difference?  Player made weapons will always have the word "forged" in the weapon name along with the material used to craft the weapon - so far, Tin, Iron, Carbonite, and Feyiron for the common materials.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Granted, rare same-tier materials will make a better weapon than can be made from the common materials.  For example, a Pristine Forged Feysteel weapon would be better in every case than a Pristine Forged Feyiron Weapon.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>When buying a player made Forged weapon, insist upon getting one with the word "Pristine" in the name, because that is the best that can be made.  A "Forged" weapon with no preceding name means the weapon was probably a combine failure because the maker could not achieve pristine status in the crafting process.  The words "shaped" or "crude" in a Forged weapon name mean it is a subgrade weapon you probably don't want, unless you want to equip this weapon type at a lower level than you would have been able to equip a Pristine or regular quality weapon.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>To summarize my point:  A player made "Pristine Forged Feyiron" weapon is better than the same type "Feysteel" weapon.  But you are correct if in your post you meant that a Pristine Forged Feysteel weapon is better than the same type Pristine Forged Feyiron weapon.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>You are also correct that there is a big lacking in certain dropped weapon types.  I consider this good, because you can get very nice player made 2 handers if you can't find a dropped one you want.  For 2 handers, you should look at the Pristine Forged Carbonite or Feyiron [Removed for Content] Sword, Claymore, or Great Sword.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>BTW:  SoE has done a very good job with the weaponsmith class as a whole and the products we can produce.  Many player made weapons have unique, clean, steel-looking graphics that I've not seen on any dropped weapons, vs. common rusted or tarnished graphics on many dropped weapons.  If you want to look different than everyone else, and want the best weapons you can get, just visit your local weaponsmith.</DIV>

EDG
12-18-2004, 07:58 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Smileonadog wrote:<BR><BR> <DIV>Let's clarify something please.  I am a weaponsmith on the Blackburrow server, and am presently making Pristine Forged Feyiron weapons.<BR> <HR> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Hey Ix,</P> <P>I scooped one of your pristine forged carbonite [Removed for Content] sword the other day (im still only 2<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />, and it's top notch.  Thanks for your weaponcrafting dedication.  Before I purchased, I did a quick calculation, and found it better than the quest reward 2-hander I had, the Nerius Pirate...</P> <P>Here's a quick calculator I came up with the help comparison:  <A href="http://gaming.thoughtbludgeon.com/avgDPScalc.asp" target=_blank>http://gaming.thoughtbludgeon.com/avgDPScalc.asp</A> <BR></P>

Siner
12-18-2004, 09:01 AM
Thanks for the responses. Zor, what is starfall? When you say Feysteel Morningstar and broadsword, are you referring to player made or drops. If drops, where at? The the highest player made weapons that I see on the bulletin board are pristine carbonite which are really too low for the 30+ game. So buying right now is not really an option. Where are the beatles for the quest from the scarecrow at EL?Also thanks for clearing up the differences between feyiron and feysteel. I now realize it is analogous to iron vs. blackened iron weapons. But if the blackened iron weapons on the server are any indication of likelyhood of getting a player-made feysteel one, I am not holding my breath. Blackened iron sold for quite a bit of mark up and feysteel will only be more so.

Tyd
12-20-2004, 09:47 AM
<DIV>I just got 31 today. These are the weapons i wield:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>1handers:</DIV> <DIV>Bloodstain Hammer (req lvl 31)</DIV> <DIV>Pristine Forged Feyiron Flamberge (Only one that can be used at lvl 30 though)</DIV> <DIV>(i also have Weakened ghoulbane to use at lvl 32)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>2hander:</DIV> <DIV>Feysteel Great Flail (perhaps not the best, but it deals some serious blows)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Shield:</DIV> <DIV>Snapper Shell Kite Shield</DIV><p>Message Edited by Tydde on <span class=date_text>12-19-2004</span> <span class=time_text>08:53 PM</span>

Ixnay
12-20-2004, 04:37 PM
<DIV>Edge that is a very nice DPS calculator and I thank you for posting it.  I'd appreciate if you leave it up so I can refer people to it to explain the differences between weapons.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thanks</DIV>

EDG
12-21-2004, 01:58 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Smileonadog wrote:<BR> <DIV>Edge that is a very nice DPS calculator and I thank you for posting it.  I'd appreciate if you leave it up so I can refer people to it to explain the differences between weapons.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thanks</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> sure thing... as more info comes in, regarding miss ratios, or accuracy, weapon con, etc, i'll update the calculator.

IBSomnifer
12-21-2004, 02:06 AM
<blockquote><hr>Ty wrote:<DIV>There is alot of half named in Zek, and kill 300 orcs for a belt, if xping there 2 lvs i would think you would have got alot of new jewelry. 32 maybe go to EL and do RE have a chest and a leg quest + some lv 40ish gear, but stats dosnt seems do be to good for that lvl</DIV><hr></blockquote>What 300 orc belt quest? Rampage quest like the chest slot in RE? Where does it start? I personally havn't gotten deep enough to get the leg slot from RE...but i hear its good. Anyone know of quest gear for hands/feet/bracer/head yet? Jewlery is sooo much easier to get. I'm 31 SK 30 provisioner on AB.

ReficulFonwaps
12-28-2004, 12:16 PM
<DIV>Hey, I'm a 36 sk and it seems like we dont have a lot of good options in the weapon department. I found a good 1 hander in Nektropos Castle that dropped off one of the sisters. It's a feysteel flamberge , its got 10-29 base damage with 1.6 second delay. My damage right now with it is 20-61. Other stats are 2 int, 4 agi, 2 str, 4 wis, 21 health, 24 power. You should be able to use this at level 32, the sisters in nek castle are level 34 i believe, should be no trouble at all for any decent 30+ group to kill them. They drop all sorts of loot for all different classes so you're not guarunteed to get the sword, but you will most likely get something you can use.</DIV>