Non-Soloable Greenmist Heritage Quest required for KA sig line?

[Allumette]

I'm sort of surprised this tidbit of information hasn't come up before now (or else it did and I missed it, in which case please disregard my passive aggressive tone), but assuming it's true, are there any plans to tweak the mechanics in Emperor Atrebe's Laboratory: The Fabled City of Kor-sha so it doesn't require the simultaneous activation of two levers in different rooms in order to start the quest?<br /> <br />I really don't mind doing old content, but I'm a bit taken aback that a quest obtained in a zone that is currently literally impossible to solo would be a prerequisite for a solo signature quest line in a subsequent expansion.<br /> <br />In any case, if that's the case, let me close this with a shameless plea for assistance: If anyone is on Skyfire and would be able to spare a few minutes for a drive-by lever-pulling, I would be incredibly grateful -- and I'd be happy to reciprocate if needed.

[Conifur]

I refuse to do this quest twice (beta then again on live) so I have figured my time on Beta is over. Would have been great to know some of these things before we copied over characters to make sure we have them done. Or better yet make it so you don't actually need it on beta but let us know something like "When this goes live you will not be able to open this chest. Please make sure you go back and do the level 80 quest before this goes live."<br /> <br />I have three accounts so I was able to have one of my others come in and did the two clicks. The other two accounts will not be upgraded and I will be letting them go FTP.

[Allumette]

Aaaaaand then I realized that I could just create a heroic character on a throwaway account to do the lever monkeywork.Crisis averted! But it still seems like something you'd want to make sure people know before starting the KA sig line.

[Kaitheel]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Allumette"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Allumette said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6382274#post-6382274" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">I really don't mind doing old content, but I'm a bit taken aback that a quest obtained in a zone that is currently literally impossible to solo would be a prerequisite for a solo signature quest line in a subsequent expansion.</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div> <br />Ack! I am so glad that you reminded us of this mechanic in Kor-sha, Allumette!<br /> <br />I've submitted the following change:<br /><ul><li>The Name of Fear - The ancient idol which offers this quest has been moved to the begining of "Emperor Atrebe's Laboratory: The Fabled City of Kor-sha"</li></ul>I don't know when it will be on Beta, but it should be included in the update notes at that time.<br />~ Kaitheel

[silentstalker65]

nice

[Allumette]

Huzzah! The system worked! Thanks, guys.

[captainbeatty451]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Kaitheel"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Kaitheel said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6382375#post-6382375" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">Ack! I am so glad that you reminded us of this mechanic in Kor-sha, Allumette!<br /> <br />I've submitted the following change:<br /><ul><li>The Name of Fear - The ancient idol which offers this quest has been moved to the begining of "Emperor Atrebe's Laboratory: The Fabled City of Kor-sha"</li></ul>I don't know when it will be on Beta, but it should be included in the update notes at that time.<br /> <br />~ Kaitheel</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>I don't understand what this means, as I have never completed this quest. Should I wait until next week to complete this quest on live?

[Conifur]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="captainbeatty451"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">captainbeatty451 said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6382471#post-6382471" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">I don't understand what this means, as I have never completed this quest. Should I wait until next week to complete this quest on live?</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>The starter for the quest to get Greenmist is in a dungeon that requires two levers to be pulled at the same time to gain access. You can't do it solo. What Kaitheel is going to do is move the idol you need to start the quest to the zone in so you don't have to have two people to run the zone to start the process. You can do it now but it takes 2 people. Which since the knowledge this was a pre-req was top secret there are people who need it so a simple shout for help should get you into the instance. You can enter an open instance and get it as well.<br /><br /><a href="http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/The_Name_of_Fear" target="_blank" class="externalLink" rel="nofollow">http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/The_Name_of_Fear</a><br /> <br />I would hope they would also move the box located in Charasis:Vault of Eternal Sleep out of the locked room and to the front as well. Not a hard zone just pain and a waste.

[Alenna]

per notes for today's update<br /> <br /><ul><li>The Name of Fear - The ancient idol which offers this quest has been moved to the begining of "Emperor Atrebe's Laboratory: The Fabled City of Kor-sha".</li></ul>I am in the fabled city of korsha where the heck is that statue or did it miss getting put into today's update?

[Kelvani]

^^^ This<br /> <br />I checked on beta and I can also its not showing up in the area before the barrier. Can't get past it without a second lever puller so cant check to see if it is behind it in the normal spot still =D<br /> <br />Edit: spoke to ttobey on discord he said to check the back corner of the right hall and sure enough it was there. don't know how I missed it.. its green huge and ooogly!

[Shmogre]

Hmm...I'm still not seeing it. I've reset my zone and still no luck -- the far end of the right hallway just has the switch, the target dummy, the encrusted skeleton, and the hammer on the table. Am I just a blind ogre and looking right past it?

[Kelvani]

Shmogre its only on beta... just verifying your looking on beta not live? its in the left corner of the right hand side room with the switch. I swore it wasn't there for me either, but reclogged and went back into the zone and there it was!

[Shmogre]

Yup yup, definitely beta (been working on the tradeskill timeline while waiting for the zone to expire again). I've tried it mentored to 85 and at 100, reset the zone a couple times, camped to myself, exited and came back in, but no joy. Here is what I see:<br /> <br /><img src="http://i.imgur.com/dYC9GuH.png" class="bbCodeImage LbImage" alt="[IMG]" /><br /> <br />Maybe it's early-onset Ogre cataracts...time to have the Gnomes tinker me up some glasses. B^)

[Kelvani]

I think Ttobey stole it!

[Kelvani]

Glad I was able to help =D Now go get that HQ done sir so you too can get a bright n shiney new toy!

[Alenna]

I'm on the charissis eternal sleep step and that last crash of beta rolled me back ot the beginning having to make all the kills again GIVE US THE UPDATE FOR BETA SO WE CAN TEST THE NEW CONTENT.

[Elowith]

Is the quest starter going to be moved on live servers?

[Alenna]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Elowith"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Elowith said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6383402#post-6383402" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">Is the quest starter going to be moved on live servers?</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>no and it shouldnt' be you'll have people there to help<br /> <br />i wish they wouldn't' force us to do this quest on beta especially with the roll back crashes 3 times i've been rolled back while doing charisis eternal sleep step of green mist orb quest I feel like quitting beta because I can't test the new content. due to this road block

[Drusi_EQ2]

Why wouldn't they make the change to live as well when the reason they changed it in beta is that it required a group for a *solo* questline? Is there some place they specifically said that they weren't making the change to live?<br /> <br />Got it done today on live and there were a lot of people out and about greenmisting on AB. Kunark has been a very popular place lately. <img src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" alt="Smile" />

[Shmogre]

I AM AN IDIOT. When I looked to see if this toon had already done the quest, I looked under "N" for "Name", not "T" for "The" (curse my real-world alphabetization habits). Ever seen a big green ogre blushing? It's not pretty.<br /> <br />Huge props to Kelvani for triggering that brainstorm...you rock.

[Xianthia]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Drusi_EQ2"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Drusi_EQ2 said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6383416#post-6383416" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">Why wouldn't they make the change to live as well when the reason they changed it in beta is that it required a group for a *solo* questline? Is there some place they specifically said that they weren't making the change to live?<br /> <br />Got it done today on live and there were a lot of people out and about greenmisting on AB. Kunark has been a very popular place lately. <img src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" alt="Smile" /></span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>I ran a couple of my toons through it and found it funny and great that there were (at one point) five different guild flags by Xuurk entry area.<br /> <br />I think the change will be going live at some point. I haven't seen them say it won't (but maybe missed it?). The mechanism being taken out during beta makes it seem like the change will it's way live on release of expac. We'll see. In the meantime Kunark, Fens and JW are buzzing <img src="/images/smilies/tongue.gif" alt="Tongue" /><img src="/images/smilies/tongue.gif" alt="Tongue" />

[Drusi_EQ2]

Xuurk is probably wondering (and taking advantage) of his sudden surge in popularity, even among those who follow deities normally wanting nothing to do with Cazic Thule. <img src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" alt="Smile" />

[Kaitheel]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Elowith"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Elowith said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6383402#post-6383402" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">Is the quest starter going to be moved on live servers?</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div> <br />Yes. That's why the change was made on Beta, and why we required it to be tested on Beta. Any change to quest content on Beta goes to live.<br /> <br />~ Kaitheel

[Hijinx]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Kaitheel"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Kaitheel said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6383731#post-6383731" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">Yes. That's why the change was made on Beta, and why we required it to be tested on Beta. Any change to quest content on Beta goes to live.<br /> <br />~ Kaitheel</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div> <br />Thanks, Kaitheel! Will the change go to the live servers before release? I know I'd like to be ready to do new content when the expansion releases, so I'd like to be able to prepare in advance.

[Chiffon]

Kaitheel, there are two other issues with the Greenmist HQ that need to be looked at. One affects the ability of the quest to progress, and another affects anyone grouping. I did the quest on live, but if fixes are going to be done on beta and pushed to live, then this needs to be looked at.<br /> <br />I made a thread in EQ2 Discussion> Quests and Seasonal Events so I'll link that here, rather than repost everything.<br /><b>The Path of Fear - Greenmist HQ update issue:</b><br /><a href="https://forums.daybreakgames.com/eq2/index.php?threads/the-path-of-fear-greenmist-hq-update-issue.573336/" class="internalLink">https://forums.daybreakgames.com/eq...ath-of-fear-greenmist-hq-update-issue.573336/</a><br /> <br />another player posted about a problem with a group update which I also experienced on <b>The Triumph of Fear</b> portion of the quest:<br /><a href="https://forums.daybreakgames.com/eq2/index.php?threads/the-triumph-of-fear-hq-update-issue.573354/" class="internalLink">https://forums.daybreakgames.com/eq2/index.php?threads/the-triumph-of-fear-hq-update-issue.573354/</a>

[silentstalker65]

Not liking all this make it easy stuff. There is another to play if i wanted that!!!!

[Shmogre]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="silentstalker65"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">silentstalker65 said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6383875#post-6383875" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">Not liking all this make it easy stuff.</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>I tend to agree about the "easy button", but in this case, the older content is already trivialized by current itemization (even when mentored down). These changes help keep the lore alive without as many artificial gating mechanisms, in turn making the current content more compelling and interesting (and lowering frustration level with grey content).<br /><br />Kaitheel, a question: is the statue in the front of the Lab able to be visible only to lvl 100 folks? That might help keep the challenge for people doing the quest at-level.

[silentstalker65]

By Moving the statue to the front only helps you by not having to get a friend to help you pull a lever.

[Shmogre]

Can't argue with it being a timesink, but I see any game I play as a timesink. The biggest frustration for me with forcing completion of older questlines is that if you haven't done them, then you "lose" time running through quests that don't give experience or loot you care about. There is new stuff to be seen, new loot to be had, darn it!<br /><br />I agree about the surprise that the weapon wasn't taken and turned into the upgrade; it seemed like a logical step for me to find the weapon, get it blessed, show it to the powers-that-be, then have them magic it into a more current weapon for me. But in general, I thought the tie-in with past expansion lore was pretty cool.

[Winddragon]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="silentstalker65"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">silentstalker65 said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6383881#post-6383881" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">By Moving the statue to the front only helps you by not having to get a friend to help you pull a lever.</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>Not really much challenge lost in letting you not have to get a 2nd person to come in with you to pull the lever.

[Conifur]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Shmogre"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Shmogre said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6383877#post-6383877" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">I tend to agree about the "easy button", but in this case, the older content is already trivialized by current itemization (even when mentored down). These changes help keep the lore alive without as many artificial gating mechanisms, in turn making the current content more compelling and interesting (and lowering frustration level with grey content).<br /> <br />Kaitheel, a question: is the statue in the front of the Lab able to be visible only to lvl 100 folks? That might help keep the challenge for people doing the quest at-level.</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>Not sure about the Lore alive part of your comment. The weapon is not even used in the expansion. I could see making this a pre-req if you actually used the weapon when you made a new one, but your don't. You make a completely new and different weapon from parts you pick up in the zone; it is not even usable - just a quest item. They did not keep lore alive, they added a time sink. One would think if I did all that for the Greenmist and it was so important to them I would not be hated by them when I arrive, but should arrive a hero.