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Sigrdrifa
11-12-2015, 12:04 AM
<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="kluxor"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">kluxor said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6282154#post-6282154" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">Perhaps the healer mercs could actually heal on occasion too!</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>Set your healers so that they do not protect you or themselves. Then all they do is heal.

kluxor
11-12-2015, 12:39 AM
yep, that's all they'll do once in a blue moon

Curmudgeon
11-12-2015, 08:20 AM
<div style="padding-left: 30px">Chrol wrote:</div><div style="padding-left: 30px">MERCENARIES<br />All tank mercenaries introduced with Altar of Malice, including all purchasable tank mercenaries and the 10-year veteran mercenary, Lord Valkiss Ssi'sh, will now hold better aggro. Paladin mercenaries remain untouched in this regard.</div><div style="padding-left: 30px">All mercenaries introduced with Altar of Malice, including all purchasable mercenaries, both 10-year veteran mercenaries and the new Terrors of Thalumbra Collector’s Edition mercenary now have increased hitpoints and resists.</div><div style="padding-left: 30px">__________________________________________________ ________________________</div><div style="padding-left: 30px">Hopefully this isn't being limited to AoM mercs; my favorites have always been the CE werewolves Krivok and Krivix. Yes, I have Kluuless and Werner but I keep coming back to the wolves. I'd really hate to have to give them up.</div>

kluxor
11-12-2015, 08:28 AM
Perhaps the healer mercs could actually heal on occasion too!

Karsa
11-12-2015, 08:34 AM
<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="kluxor"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">kluxor said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6282154#post-6282154" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">Perhaps the healer mercs could actually heal on occasion too!</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div> <br /> <br />cmon now even mercs need to Padd their heal parse....so

Xerikton
11-12-2015, 07:25 PM
yes. Kenny just sits, watches and then stands up at the end of the encounter to recast his wards. if I send him in to attack he will cast a heal sometimes and cleanse.<br /> <br />oh how I want a eq1 cleric healer. just don't make them run away when you pull too many mobs or when they get hit.<img src="/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif" alt="Roll Eyes" />

Zeddicious
11-16-2015, 09:21 AM
This is still an issue. I tested Werner Thunderleg, and the hate meter is either 1, or 100 in Thalumbra. As soon as I hit any mob, my hate goes to 100 and stays there. There is no inbetween; its just 1, or 100.<br /> <br />In the instanced zones (adv solo), he is actually "trying" to hold aggro (at 80 percent) vs. my autoattack. At least in these zones, I can watch the hate start piling up until he simply cant hold it any longer.

Mermut
11-16-2015, 04:36 PM
<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Zeddicious"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Zeddicious said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6284003#post-6284003" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">This is still an issue. I tested Werner Thunderleg, and the hate meter is either 1, or 100 in Thalumbra. As soon as I hit any mob, my hate goes to 100 and stays there. There is no inbetween; its just 1, or 100.<br /> <br />In the instanced zones (adv solo), he is actually "trying" to hold aggro (at 80 percent) vs. my autoattack. At least in these zones, I can watch the hate start piling up until he simply cant hold it any longer.</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>Could he hold aggro in the AoM AS zones? I'm curious because I've not been able to find a tank merc that can hold aggro against lvl 95+ toons of any class and I'm curious to find one.

Lamatu
11-16-2015, 04:56 PM
<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Mermut"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Mermut said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6284075#post-6284075" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">Could he hold aggro in the AoM AS zones? I'm curious because I've not been able to find a tank merc that can hold aggro against lvl 95+ toons of any class and I'm curious to find one.</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>The 10yr pally merc holds agro from my warden who does 5mil+ in heroics when I molo. Once amends is on its a 68% transfer, but if I die I have to re summon the merc or it wont amends me again.<br /> <br />Usually I see amends applied within the first 30s but it has taken a minute before so on named heroic pulls i run alot of healing to tank for a minute.<br /> <br />I do molo more than 2 AoM zones with the 10yr. The other heroics I can always kill one or more names to farm shinies.<br /> <br />Bonus: The 10yr pally merc with amends on me allows me to molo all trash in the new xpac x2 raid.

Zeddicious
11-16-2015, 05:05 PM
Mermut,<br /> <br />Werner has worked fine (holding aggro / etc) in all of AOM, on par and sometimes better than the 10 year vet mercs. He also will heal when it feels like it, and casts amends. He's my "go to" tank merc. In fact, he can most likely *solo* all of the AoM adv solo zones, as well as fabled EoF adv solos. He's tough!<br /> <br />I just think that in Thalumbra - he can't tank because its not working correctly. There is no variation in threat - its either I have 100 percent threat, or 1. At the start of a fight, when I send him in, I have threat of 1. As *soon* as I hit the mob one time, my threat goes to 100 and stays. So, broken.<br />Yet, in adv solo zones, there is variation - and he will work (mostly) but not as well as he does in AOM.

Mermut
11-16-2015, 06:05 PM
<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Lamatu"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Lamatu said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6284082#post-6284082" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">The 10yr pally merc holds agro from my warden who does 5mil+ in heroics when I molo. Once amends is on its a 68% transfer, but if I die I have to re summon the merc or it wont amends me again.<br /> <br />Usually I see amends applied within the first 30s but it has taken a minute before so on named heroic pulls i run alot of healing to tank for a minute.<br /> <br />I do molo more than 2 AoM zones with the 10yr. The other heroics I can always kill one or more names to farm shinies.<br /> <br />Bonus: The 10yr pally merc with amends on me allows me to molo all trash in the new xpac x2 raid.</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>I don't have access to the 10yr merc <img src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" alt="Smile" /><br /> <br /><div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Zeddicious"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Zeddicious said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6284087#post-6284087" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">Mermut,<br /> <br />Werner has worked fine (holding aggro / etc) in all of AOM, on par and sometimes better than the 10 year vet mercs. He also will heal when it feels like it, and casts amends. He's my "go to" tank merc. In fact, he can most likely *solo* all of the AoM adv solo zones, as well as fabled EoF adv solos. He's tough!<br /> <br />I just think that in Thalumbra - he can't tank because its not working correctly. There is no variation in threat - its either I have 100 percent threat, or 1. At the start of a fight, when I send him in, I have threat of 1. As *soon* as I hit the mob one time, my threat goes to 100 and stays. So, broken.<br />Yet, in adv solo zones, there is variation - and he will work (mostly) but not as well as he does in AOM.</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>Good to know.

Zeddicious
11-16-2015, 06:34 PM
Update: <br />Doing some rudimentary testing with Werner in Overland Thalumbra today revealed some changes - he's now behaving more normally in that he can grab aggo - and its displaying a wider range of threat - not just 1 or 100. Looks like its getting fixed! (crosses fingers)