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okuth0r
07-18-2006, 05:56 AM
anyone seen it work recently? cant seem to find it in my combat log procing at all... <div></div>

Timaarit
07-18-2006, 11:37 AM
Could it be that you are too close to the mob? After all, it gives a ranged proc and the ranged weapon has a minimum distance... <div></div>

Zabjade
07-18-2006, 08:02 PM
<font color="#66ff00"><font size="2"><font face="Comic Sans MS">I've seen it work both in ranged and in Melee. </font></font></font><div></div>

Ketel
07-18-2006, 09:24 PM
I was under the impression this was a melee proc why would we need a ranged proc?

Timaarit
07-19-2006, 12:41 AM
<blockquote><hr>Ketel wrote:<div></div>I was under the impression this was a melee proc why would we need a ranged proc?<hr></blockquote>It can proc with successful hit, ranged or melee. But the proc itself gives a ranged attack. So if you are too close to the mob, it might not work.<div></div>

Rrawl
07-19-2006, 02:00 AM
Hrm.. I'll run a parse on my log and see...

RyanTSi
07-19-2006, 03:31 AM
<DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Timaarit wrote:<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Ketel wrote:<BR> I was under the impression this was a melee proc why would we need a ranged proc?<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>It can proc with successful hit, ranged or melee. But the proc itself gives a ranged attack. So if you are too close to the mob, it might not work.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>are you sure? it always used to proc a melee attack......i know they recently changed it to fix the ranged attack bug though.</DIV>

Computer MAn
07-19-2006, 04:22 AM
Ran a parser during our Harla Dar run today and had it proc 8 times so it definately still works on melee<div></div>

Tauch
07-19-2006, 07:02 AM
<blockquote><hr>okuth0r wrote:anyone seen it work recently? cant seem to find it in my combat log procing at all... <div></div><hr></blockquote> Mantis Bolt is proc'ing for me as we speak. Both in melee and ranged combat. Boring fight. /snore<div></div>

Timaarit
07-19-2006, 09:41 AM
<blockquote><hr>RyanTSi wrote:<div></div> <div> <blockquote> <hr> Timaarit wrote: <blockquote> <hr> Ketel wrote: <div></div>I was under the impression this was a melee proc why would we need a ranged proc? <hr> </blockquote>It can proc with successful hit, ranged or melee. But the proc itself gives a ranged attack. So if you are too close to the mob, it might not work. <div></div> <hr> </blockquote>are you sure? it always used to proc a melee attack......i know they recently changed it to fix the ranged attack bug though.</div><hr></blockquote>Ok, I wasn't in game when I wrote it, seems like they changed it to a melee proc from the info I had available.<div></div>

Goozman
07-19-2006, 10:47 AM
I merge all my parses over a night of grouping and it amounts to about 1% of my total damage; so it's definitely proccing :smileyvery-happy:

Timaarit
07-19-2006, 10:54 AM
<blockquote><hr>Goozman wrote:<div></div>I merge all my parses over a night of grouping and it amounts to about 1% of my total damage; so it's definitely proccing :smileyvery-happy:<hr></blockquote>Hmm, that doesn't sound like worth spending 16 aa points on...<div></div>

DynamicPerforman
07-19-2006, 07:35 PM
<DIV>How many points do you have into it? Are you the tank or DPS? What level are you? Are all your skills master 1?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Those are very important questions into how usefull mantis bolt is going to be.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>At 4 points its only a 15% proc. But at 8 points, its a 24% proc. (not quite double, but i've found that it now does 5x as much)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>When i was in my 50's and had 4 points and was tanking, it accounted for 1% of my total dps.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Now I have 8 points into it, I tank, I am level 70, and all my skills are adept3+ (only 4 adept3, mostly masters)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>It now accounts for 5% of my total dps.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Dynamicman out...</DIV>

Sslarrga
07-20-2006, 03:08 AM
<P>1%?  Boy if Mantis bolt was 1% of my damage...that would mean...I'm parsing between 4000-6000 DPS every fight.  WOOOOOOO.  Kick [Removed for Content]...</P> <P>But seriously, for me mantis bolt accounts for between 40-60 DPS average for me.  Which depending on buffs on me is roughtly 5-10% of my DPS normally.</P> <P>I'm guessing you are using the same parser that makes bruisers think their offensive stance sucks.  <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  Even though it provides roughly the same or more DPS than Mantis Bolt.  Which is much better than the 0% DPS I get from my offensive stance.  <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>And mantis bolt works on bother ranged and melee combat.</P> <P>Regards,</P> <P>Croaker</P>

Goozman
07-20-2006, 10:56 AM
<DIV>It's actually less than 1%, but it rounds up. My monk's only 55 with 3 points into it right now. Always tanking, 100% haste, and about 400dps. I rarely see mantis bolt go off, but it does occasionally.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I still plan on getting it to 8 tho.</DIV>