Monk Trials: How is a monk suppose to complete them?

[Cusashorn]

<DIV>The Monk trials in the Village of Shin.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>There's one on the first floor of the pagoda, two on the 2nd, 2 on the 3rd, and 1 on the 4th from what I can see.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>First Floor trial: Kill 50 mobs in 30 minutes. Reward: 5 Monk Pebbles.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>2nd Floor trial: Kill 75 mobs in 30 minutes. Reward: 15 Monk Pebbles.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>2nd Floor trial: Collect 50 terracotta shards and deliver them to the vase within 30 minutes. Reward: 15 Monk Pebbles.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>3rd Floor trial: Kill 100 mobs in 30 minutes. Reward: 20 Monk Pebbles.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>3rd Floor trial: Collect 75 terracota shards in 30 minutes. Reward: 20 monk pebbles.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I haven't reached the 4th floor yet, but I would assume it's Kill 125 Mobs in 30 minutes.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Ok. Kill 50 in 30 minutes... No problem. I'm a level 70 monk with good equipment. Fair share of relic armors, the 2nd of the two The Twin Calamities, Soulspur, Mark of Awakened Instinct, fair amount of Master 1 spells, etc...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>With good power and health regen from food and drink, the first trial is easy to complete. You get locked out for 3 days if you complete any of the trials, but earning 5 pebbles is a start.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The pebbles are needed to buy yourself titles, both prefix and suffix.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The Persistant with 100</DIV> <DIV>The Fragrant with 150</DIV> <DIV>The Vigilant with 200</DIV> <DIV>The Fox with 250</DIV> <DIV>The Decimator with 300</DIV> <DIV>Golden Sun with 500</DIV> <DIV>Sagacious with 500</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Now here's the problem. The 2nd, 3rd, and 4th floor trials, all 5 of them, are nearly impossible to complete.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>No matter how good my power and health regen is, I can't regenerate fast enough to just move from one target to the next without stoping to rest. It is possible to complete the Kill 75 in 30 minutes if you're lucky, but you'd be comming down to the line of having seconds left on the clock. The trial descriptions seem to imply that using AOE attacks are the way to go, and they certainly are helpful.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The trials to collect terracotta shards seems to be entirely random. The mobs are all agro, but don't always drop shards. There are vases and Shineys on the ground you can collect and destroy to get a few shards, but they're far and few scattered around the zone.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Now these trials wouldn't be so difficult if the mobs inside weren't monks themselves. they dodge and avoid your attacks better than you can dodge thiers. However, they're weak against Magic attacks. Using Storming Palm, Crescent Strike, Dragonbreath, Arctic Palm, and Soaring Dragon are useful... if they ever connect in the first place. AOE attacks? We only have two.. For a Caster class like a Conjurer or Wizard, these trials are easy as pie, but it's not really fair for the rest of us, namely us monks who want to get involved with our own class history, if we can't beat these things.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>My point is: How do you guys do it? Have you tried and have you had any success with these yet? If I'm lucky, I can kill off 6-7 mobs before I have to rest, but the time it takes for me to rest is still 2-3 minutes each time..</DIV>

[RyanTSi]

<P>i havent attemped any of the collect shards trials yet and i dont have 4th floor access but ive beated the kill 50 kill 75 and kill 100 with ease, had 9 minutes left when i finished the kill 100. </P> <P>i think the real challenge is just finding them all, once you learn the zone enough you can set a path for yourself where you cover the entire zone and wont miss any, if thats not the problem, one thing i like to do to help speed it up a little is tsunmi right before the big groups of mobs and ae them all, making sure to keep them infront of me so my repostes hit, and that usually puts them all in the red by the time tsunami wears off. Can kill like 9 at once doing that and it only takes like 45 seconds. </P>

[Cusashorn]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> RyanTSi wrote:<BR> <P>i havent attemped any of the collect shards trials yet and i dont have 4th floor access but ive beated the kill 50 kill 75 and kill 100 with ease, had 9 minutes left when i finished the kill 100. </P> <P>i think the real challenge is just finding them all, once you learn the zone enough you can set a path for yourself where you cover the entire zone and wont miss any, if thats not the problem, one thing i like to do to help speed it up a little is tsunmi right before the big groups of mobs and ae them all, making sure to keep them infront of me so my repostes hit, and that usually puts them all in the red by the time tsunami wears off. Can kill like 9 at once doing that and it only takes like 45 seconds. </P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>I find that hard to believe that you can knock down 8-9 mobs with just tsunami, dragonbreath, and crescent strike. I use that tactic and they get down to 40% at best. However, I can't last long enough to finish ALL of them off after Tsunami wears off. They start to damage me like crazy. I use Heal but that only helps slightly.</P> <P> </P> <P>But how are you doing it? What weapons are you using? Buff potions?</P><p>Message Edited by Cusashorn on <span class=date_text>06-16-2006</span> <span class=time_text>02:15 PM</span>

[Stryyfe]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Cusashorn wrote:<BR> <DIV>The Monk trials in the Village of Shin.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>There's one on the first floor of the pagoda, two on the 2nd, 2 on the 3rd, and 1 on the 4th from what I can see.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>First Floor trial: Kill 50 mobs in 30 minutes. Reward: 5 Monk Pebbles.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>2nd Floor trial: Kill 75 mobs in 30 minutes. Reward: 15 Monk Pebbles.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>2nd Floor trial: Collect 50 terracotta shards and deliver them to the vase within 30 minutes. Reward: 15 Monk Pebbles.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>3rd Floor trial: Kill 100 mobs in 30 minutes. Reward: 20 Monk Pebbles.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>3rd Floor trial: Collect 75 terracota shards in 30 minutes. Reward: 20 monk pebbles.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I haven't reached the 4th floor yet, but I would assume it's Kill 125 Mobs in 30 minutes.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Ok. Kill 50 in 30 minutes... No problem. I'm a level 70 monk with good equipment. Fair share of relic armors, the 2nd of the two The Twin Calamities, Soulspur, Mark of Awakened Instinct, fair amount of Master 1 spells, etc...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>With good power and health regen from food and drink, the first trial is easy to complete. You get locked out for 3 days if you complete any of the trials, but earning 5 pebbles is a start.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The pebbles are needed to buy yourself titles, both prefix and suffix.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The Persistant with 100</DIV> <DIV>The Fragrant with 150</DIV> <DIV>The Vigilant with 200</DIV> <DIV>The Fox with 250</DIV> <DIV>The Decimator with 300</DIV> <DIV>Golden Sun with 500</DIV> <DIV>Sagacious with 500</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Now here's the problem. The 2nd, 3rd, and 4th floor trials, all 5 of them, are nearly impossible to complete.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>No matter how good my power and health regen is, I can't regenerate fast enough to just move from one target to the next without stoping to rest. It is possible to complete the Kill 75 in 30 minutes if you're lucky, but you'd be comming down to the line of having seconds left on the clock. The trial descriptions seem to imply that using AOE attacks are the way to go, and they certainly are helpful.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The trials to collect terracotta shards seems to be entirely random. The mobs are all agro, but don't always drop shards. There are vases and Shineys on the ground you can collect and destroy to get a few shards, but they're far and few scattered around the zone.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Now these trials wouldn't be so difficult if the mobs inside weren't monks themselves. they dodge and avoid your attacks better than you can dodge thiers. However, they're weak against Magic attacks. Using Storming Palm, Crescent Strike, Dragonbreath, Arctic Palm, and Soaring Dragon are useful... if they ever connect in the first place. AOE attacks? We only have two.. For a Caster class like a Conjurer or Wizard, these trials are easy as pie, but it's not really fair for the rest of us, namely us monks who want to get involved with our own class history, if we can't beat these things.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>My point is: How do you guys do it? Have you tried and have you had any success with these yet? If I'm lucky, I can kill off 6-7 mobs before I have to rest, but the time it takes for me to rest is still 2-3 minutes each time..</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>I like the post, and I haven't tried this yet. However... You should purchase a stack of Mana and Health regen potions, they are cheap and work wonders.  Also, keep off your Everburning if you had it on... that will just eat you alive and waste time, you can kill plenty fast enough otherwise.</P> <P>The way I look at alot of quests like this, or timed things.... is that designers put it into the game appealing to fighters in general, so you need to fight like a tank/warrior/crusader instead of a Brawler and it's usually successful, no matter how boring.</P>

[Cusashorn]

<DIV>Bordom is hardly an issue with these things. they're quite fun, but they seem to be easier for a spell caster to root, nuke, have the pet intercept damage, and AOE things to death compaired to the mobs easily dodging melee attacks and combat arts.</DIV>

[RyanTSi]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Cusashorn wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> RyanTSi wrote:<BR> <P>i havent attemped any of the collect shards trials yet and i dont have 4th floor access but ive beated the kill 50 kill 75 and kill 100 with ease, had 9 minutes left when i finished the kill 100. </P> <P>i think the real challenge is just finding them all, once you learn the zone enough you can set a path for yourself where you cover the entire zone and wont miss any, if thats not the problem, one thing i like to do to help speed it up a little is tsunmi right before the big groups of mobs and ae them all, making sure to keep them infront of me so my repostes hit, and that usually puts them all in the red by the time tsunami wears off. Can kill like 9 at once doing that and it only takes like 45 seconds. </P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>I find that hard to believe that you can knock down 8-9 mobs with just tsunami, dragonbreath, and crescent strike. I use that tactic and they get down to 40% at best. However, I can't last long enough to finish ALL of them off after Tsunami wears off. They start to damage me like crazy. I use Heal but that only helps slightly.</P> <P> </P> <P>But how are you doing it? What weapons are you using? Buff potions?</P> <P>Message Edited by Cusashorn on <SPAN class=date_text>06-16-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>02:15 PM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>i also have 8 points into crane twirl so with all those repostes that thing is going off like crazy, by the time i get them all down im only at like 50% without using heal. using marrs fist and bonetooth skewer and no potions.

[Cusashorn]

<DIV>I see. I went with the agility and stamina line since i'm needed for defense more with my guild. I guess that would come in handy to have the Wisdom line like that.</DIV><p>Message Edited by Cusashorn on <span class=date_text>06-16-2006</span> <span class=time_text>05:42 PM</span>

[Siberia2]

Granted I'm full fabled, I've done all of them except the 100 shards one, I just have horrible luck with drops and it always seems like I'm running out of time with around 80 shards. I'm ALWAYS, little exception, at 25% HP/25% power. I just keep pulling mobs, Blues two at a time. I wait for Crane flock to be up which helps me a ton, and Tsunami. Grab a bunch, AE etc etc. I don't use any potions, food or drink. I'm just a cheap person :p. But yeah, the hardest part is finding the ones who are hiding, but once you get the map down it's cake. It could be worse, we could have templar DPS :o. Oh, I also have 8 ranks of twirl and use a staff for sweep. <div></div>

[Psychotic One]

<DIV>Crane Twirl, Crane Flock, Tsunami, Crescent strike, Dragonbreath and I can kill upto 12 at once with my stone staff of striking</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I'm on the third floor but can't beat the terracotta one on the third floor so for now I can get 55 stones every 3 days =</DIV>

[Cusashorn]

<DIV>I also noticed the mobs can be placed randomly around the zone. I remember the 2nd time I tried the kill 75, the mobs weren't in the same places as I found them the first time.</DIV>

[zabor]

The mobs for the "Clear the whole zone" trials are always at the exact same spot. Just memorize their position, find the quickest path, and its no problem.

[Cusashorn]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> zaboron wrote:<BR>The mobs for the "Clear the whole zone" trials are always at the exact same spot. Just memorize their position, find the quickest path, and its no problem.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>No. these mobs were in a different spot the 2nd time I tried it. all the rooms were full the first time, and the hallways were empty. the 2nd time, all the hallways were full, and the rooms were empty.

[zabor]

<a href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=fallendynasty&message.id=1491#M1491" target=_blank>they are always in the same place.</a>

[Cusashorn]

<DIV>well ok, but I'm still telling you those mobs were in a different spot the 2nd time...</DIV>

[Zabjade]

<font color="#66ff00"><font size="2"><font face="Comic Sans MS">I've only attempted the first one, stalled at 45 or 46 and couldn't find the rest and time ran out (part of the problem is I was having problems getting the broker to work and I was out of food and drink) It helps if you have the crane line Cusa, It gives you an AoE </font></font></font><div></div>

[Cusashorn]

Well I do have a free achievement respec. How would you suggest I go about spending the 50 points?

[KaaneSensougo]

Using the Strifewing Bone Bo at 68, I was able to finish the first kill trial (50 in 30min) and the first collection (50shards in 30min).  I found that the high damage and low speed of the strifewing meant much less riposte and actually came out with better health.Be sure and turn your haste off when not in combat for faster regen.However, I simply could not kill fast enough to kill 75 in 30mins.  I had no problems finding the guys, but they were mostly 69 and no down arrows so I simply could not kill fast enough.I don't have the third floor access yet but I might be able to pull off 75 shards in 30 mins as long as they are exactly the same as the first one, if they get harder, like the kill trials, then I will not be able to kill fast enough.20 pepples every 3 days.<div></div>

[GymRat]

I can get through the 50 with about 7 to 9 minutes to spare on the kill instance from 1st floor, depends if I miss some and have to go back and find them. I have tried both 2nd floor solo  instances and I cant kill 75 or get 50 shards.

[Cusashorn]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> KaaneSensougo wrote:<BR>Using the Strifewing Bone Bo at 68, I was able to finish the first kill trial (50 in 30min) and the first collection (50shards in 30min).  I found that the high damage and low speed of the strifewing meant much less riposte and actually came out with better health.<BR><BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Didn't they change it so that the slower the weapon, the easier it was to reposte?</P> <P> </P> <P>Wouldn't that mean that you'd recieve less repostes if you used faster weapons?</P>

[diamondma]

<blockquote><hr>Cusashorn wrote:<div></div> <div>The pebbles are needed to buy yourself titles, both prefix and suffix.</div> <div> </div> <div>The Persistant with 100</div> <div>The Fragrant with 150</div> <div>The Vigilant with 200</div> <div>The Fox with 250</div> <div>The Decimator with 300</div> <div>Golden Sun with 500</div> <div><font color="#ffff00"><b>Sagacious with 500 -muhaha all of u just wanna have a part of me in ur name. /hide </b></font></div><hr></blockquote><div></div>

[Tarvos]

<DIV>Okay so who do you get the trials from?  When I was there I couldn't find anyone that was offering trials, just a couple quests that required going to Mystic Lake or Other places and hunting things.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Is it just that I am not of a high enough level to have found them, being that I am only lvl 53 at this point?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Cusashorn]

<DIV>look for scrolls on the tables on each floor.</DIV>

[KaaneSensougo]

<blockquote><hr>Cusashorn wrote:<div></div> <blockquote> <hr> KaaneSensougo wrote:Using the Strifewing Bone Bo at 68, I was able to finish the first kill trial (50 in 30min) and the first collection (50shards in 30min).  I found that the high damage and low speed of the strifewing meant much less riposte and actually came out with better health. <div></div> <hr> </blockquote> <p>Didn't they change it so that the slower the weapon, the easier it was to reposte?</p> <p>Wouldn't that mean that you'd recieve less repostes if you used faster weapons?</p><hr></blockquote>I have no idea, just posting what happened.  Logically, you'd think that, but I consistantly find that it is not the case.<p></p><div></div>

[Zabjade]

<font color="#66ff00"><font size="2"><font face="Comic Sans MS">Since I solo a lot I find I need  damage above speed, and to reduce Riposte damage. I have been taking the Wisdom and Stamina lines and I use Grizzlefangs Staff (I'm not a hardcore raider so I only have one fabled item a DoF Belt and I need last book before I can try the trials, and not one piece of relic armor) </font></font></font><div></div>

[nobunaga_x]

Not sure what AA line you have, but when I played in the first one I would round up like 15 at a time and use Crain Flock and they would drop like they were one mob.

[furydruid]

I tried the 50 one last night and the hardest part I found was actually finding them. Give me a GPS tracker and we'll talk. I plan on trying to learn my way around the area.If you have devastation fist, you can use that to help a bit with timing.  I havent attemtped the 75 one yet, and wont until I have a better understanding of the layout<div></div>

[Timaarit]

<blockquote><hr>Cusashorn wrote:<div></div> <blockquote> <hr> KaaneSensougo wrote:Using the Strifewing Bone Bo at 68, I was able to finish the first kill trial (50 in 30min) and the first collection (50shards in 30min).  I found that the high damage and low speed of the strifewing meant much less riposte and actually came out with better health. <div></div> <hr> </blockquote> <p>Didn't they change it so that the slower the weapon, the easier it was to reposte?</p> <p>Wouldn't that mean that you'd recieve less repostes if you used faster weapons?</p><hr></blockquote>No, there is an equal chance to riposte every hit. So if you hit twice per second, there will be 4 times as many ripostes compared to a situation where you hit once per 2 seconds. Thus using a slow weapon will result in less overall ripostes. Also when you use a slow hitting, high damage weapon, you will do more damage when you riposte since the riposte damage is dependant on the weapons autoattack damage. So with the bone bo and tsunami, the overall damage output is a lot higher.<div></div>

[Perfidiou]

<DIV>did the 100 kill one last night and had no prob at all. the only hard part is to actually find the last 2-5 mobs to kill. ran around for about 8-10 minutes to get my last 5. F'ers seem to hide alot :robottongue:</DIV>

[Cirth_Beer]

i wonders how templar are supposed to do those solo trials <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Timaarit]

<blockquote><hr>Cirth_Beer wrote:<div></div>i wonders how templar are supposed to do those solo trials <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><hr></blockquote>By praying more DPS I suppose. Or by making <strike>an alt</strike> <span>a new main :smileysad:</span><div></div>

[Perfidiou]

<DIV>I wonder how templars can do ANYTHING solo <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </DIV>