Brawler Weapon Ideas....

[TheKensaiMast]

Ok so brawlers can now skill up with crushing weapons that act effectively (damage-wise) as "slashing" and "piercing".With Fallen Dynasty coming soon I thought it would be an appropriate time to post this.Now my questions is, with certain limited weapon types that fit the nature and theme of a brawler, should weapons such as the following be used possibly in the hands of a monk/bruiser and possibly some of them only by their hands? Perhaps even one that only a monk could use and vice versa for bruiser.Ideas are:KatannasWakizashisTantosSaisand so many more options....Good, bad, or ugly?<div></div>

[wesbarlow]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> TheKensaiMaster wrote:<BR>Ok so brawlers can now skill up with crushing weapons that act effectively (damage-wise) as "slashing" and "piercing".<BR><BR>With Fallen Dynasty coming soon I thought it would be an appropriate time to post this.<BR><BR>Now my questions is, with certain limited weapon types that fit the nature and theme of a brawler, should weapons such as the following be used possibly in the hands of a monk/bruiser and possibly some of them only by their hands? <BR><BR>Perhaps even one that only a monk could use and vice versa for bruiser.<BR><BR>Ideas are:<BR><BR>Katannas<BR>Wakizashis<BR>Tantos<BR>Sais<BR>and so many more options....<BR><BR>Good, bad, or ugly?<BR><BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>ya know i gotta be honest...i've love nothing better then to have a monk with a katana. But it's my understanding that monks use their body as a weapon as opposed to using actual weapons. I didn't play eq1 though so in my ignorance i guess sony's view of a monk could be that they are ninja's with straw hats but i dont know. But that's the kid side of me talkin. I do think we'd have a better shot with tanto's or something though because that's not such a huge weapon as a katana and seems more the style monk that i've played up to this point. then again who can predict what soe will do next....i've stopped tryin

[Almeric_CoS]

<DIV>If they give us real swords, there'll be massive uproar amongst the other fighters.  Probably not worth the trouble, as we get flamed enough as it is <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>How about...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Crushing:</DIV> <DIV>Bokken (wooden sword)</DIV> <DIV>Nunchaku</DIV> <DIV>Three-section staff</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Slashing:</DIV> <DIV>Kama (hand-sickles)</DIV> <DIV>Naginata</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Piercing:</DIV> <DIV>Maybe a Jitte?  It's a bit like a Sai, but Sais are already in the game.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Piercing would be pretty tough.  There's plenty of martial arts spears and swords that would deal piercing damage, but to make them Brawler-friendly would stir up trouble.  Unfortunately, I don't think we can expect TOO many goodies just for us, but nunchaku would be pretty awesome <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[wesbarlow]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Almeric wrote:<BR> <DIV>If they give us real swords, there'll be massive uproar amongst the other fighters.  Probably not worth the trouble, as we get flamed enough as it is <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>How about...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Crushing:</DIV> <DIV>Bokken (wooden sword)</DIV> <DIV>Nunchaku</DIV> <DIV>Three-section staff</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Slashing:</DIV> <DIV>Kama (hand-sickles)</DIV> <DIV>Naginata</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Piercing:</DIV> <DIV>Maybe a Jitte?  It's a bit like a Sai, but Sais are already in the game.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Piercing would be pretty tough.  There's plenty of martial arts spears and swords that would deal piercing damage, but to make them Brawler-friendly would stir up trouble.  Unfortunately, I don't think we can expect TOO many goodies just for us, but nunchaku would be pretty awesome <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>ya, a good point there on the sword thing. nunchaku would be a nice addition as well as long as they gave it a good graphic..that's something that graphically i think could really be screwed up if not done right

[Rrawl]

<DIV>These get my vote, click the linkies for pictures and some background.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>piercing:</DIV> <DIV><A href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kama_%28weapon%29" target=_blank>KAMA</A></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>crushing:</DIV> <DIV><A href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonfa" target=_blank>TONFA</A></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>slashing:</DIV> <DIV><A href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naginata" target=_blank>NAGINATA</A></DIV>

[Aburai]

I reckon Nunchaku would be a cool crushing weapon.. They'd be a nice alternative to maybe the batons for crushing damage.  But personally I think they should be a 2hander alternative for the Bo Staff <span>:smileywink:</span>..  Imaine the sweet animations that could be worked into that setup hehe, if they were dual wield they'd probably only have the standard animations everyone has now <span>:smileyvery-happy:</span>Just my 2cp worth.The other suggestions sound cool too!/salute<div></div>

[Almeric_CoS]

<P>A naginata would be a great alternative to a 2hander staff, too.  The problem I see with nunchaku (as much as I'd love to see them), is that to get them looking right, they'd have to mo-cap a whole new set of animations.  I doubt this will happen for a mere adventure pack <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>On the other hand, a naginata could, I believe, probably use just about the same animation set as the bo staff, and still look really slick and new because of the bladed tip.  I could deal with that <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P>

[Psychotic One]

<DIV>I think Gauntlets would be a nice addition to the already listed items.  A 2 handed fist weapon that acts like a glove graphic *no more poof theres the katar animations*</DIV> <DIV>Think like Dante's Ifrit gloves from Devil May Cry.  I think it be great if they put them in on a limited basis for quest/faction rewards or even if they put Wu's fighting gauntlets in as a HQ and when they are in combat mode the lightstones that are used to craft them light up into small energy blades infront of the gauntlets.  </DIV>

[Zabjade]

<font color="#66ff00" face="Comic Sans MS" size="2">Since the Barehanded Achievement line causes the loss of stats on weapons perhaps gloves/handwraps in the hand slot to take the place of the stats.</font> <div></div>

[Wabit]

<P>got this last night...  seems like a nice brawler tanking weapon...</P> <P><IMG src="http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h47/bufs96/2H.jpg"></P>

[DarkerApprenti]

Or here is a swtich....why not allow a martial artist the ability to use a martial arts weapon that has already been in the game for some time....the Sai? I always thought that was sorta lame that we couldn't use them.<div></div>

[Almeric_CoS]

<DIV>I think the problem is that, in spite of many visual changes, most equipment choices are still based on skills that we have but cannot see.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Back in the old days, we could wear leather armor because we had a Light Armor skill.  We could wield fistwraps because we had a Martial Arts skill.  Mages didn't have the Light Armor skill, and no one but Brawlers had a the Martial Arts skill.  That's why only Brawlers could use fistwraps.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>We can't use Sais because they're based on the Dagger skill.  In order for us to use a Sai, they'd have to make a special type that is based off of Martial Arts instead, barring any more recent advancements.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Sorta like what I said about us getting eastern swords in an above post, if we got special Brawler-friendly sais because the graphics are already in place, we'd still likely hear endless whining that we get special treatment AND/OR jealousy from Scouts that they can't use our neato toys.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I'm basing my thoughts off the old system that I truly believe is still running things in the backend.  Of course, I could be wrong, and maybe its possible to make a Sai that is usable by all the normal Dagger classes and Brawlers.  I guess we'll have to wait til the adventure pack to know for sure <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

[JudyJudy]

<P><EM>I have to say "nay" on wielding a katana.  Samurai were warriors.  We are not samurai.  We are not warriors.</EM></P> <P><EM>However, incorporating a form of a chinese broadsword and other bladed monk-related weaponry would add an interesting flavor.  Many of the traditional gung fu styles, such as those derived from the Shaolin monks, incorporate many weapons - including swords - and have done so for thousands of years.  Here, check this out.  One of my favorite sites.</EM></P> <P><A href="http://www.shao-lin.com/Category.cfm?CategoryID=4" target=_blank>http://www.shao-lin.com/Category.cfm?CategoryID=4</A></P> <P><EM>Incorporating "classical weapons" would only keep true to the monk way of life.</EM></P> <P><EM>As for upsetting the masses - tell me, what won't upset them?  I doubt they'd notice through their fierce screams for balance.  :smileywink:</EM></P>

[Waung]

<DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> DarkerApprentice wrote:<BR>Or here is a swtich....why not allow a martial artist the ability to use a martial arts weapon that has already been in the game for some time....the Sai? I always thought that was sorta lame that we couldn't use them.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>or even more of a switch, allowing a martial artist to be knowledgeable to attack with (gasp) BOTH hands when unarmed.</DIV>

[Tamo]

<P>Make Sais CRUSHING damage like they are in actual Martial arts.... I would like to see that. I would like to see some form of Iai-do blade that would be sweet if they got the animations right :smileywink:</P> <P> </P> <P> </P> <P> </P>