War Cry and Engulfing Rage upgrades

[Oldlore]

I'd like to get these to proc more when I'm on raids (not MT) but I'm not sure if the upgrades do what I think they do.  The CAs were changed so that when you attack they have a 3.0/min or whatever chance to go off.  Then when you get attacked or kill a mob there's an X % chance for it to trigger.  When you get the EoF AA upgrades they mention 1% trigger inrease per rank.  Does that effect the chance to proc berserk when you attack mobs since that's not listed as a percentage per se.... ?<div></div>

[zormik]

<P>I hate this change.  Now you can be max. 30s out of 1 min. berserk.  This is supposed to be our classdefining skill :smileymad:</P> <P>Another edge we loose ...</P>

[Legiax]

<DIV>Upgrade our zerk spells to master, that helps with not only the proc percentage, but the amount.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>If you go down the trigger line for the zerk buff, you will be zerk most of the time.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I've not noticed anything different pre-eof or post-eof with me going zerk. Its always on.</DIV>

[zormik]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Legiax wrote:<BR> <DIV>Upgrade our zerk spells to master, that helps with not only the proc percentage, but the amount.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>If you go down the trigger line for the zerk buff, you will be zerk most of the time.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I've not noticed anything different pre-eof or post-eof with me going zerk. Its always on.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>I have them both at M1</P> <P>Look at the description it can only trigger 3 times in a minute.  One berserk lasts 10s.  Which means you can only be 30s out of 1 minute in a state of berserk...</P>

[Legiax]

<DIV>Your group zerk will proc as well...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[zormik]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Legiax wrote:<BR> <DIV>Your group zerk will proc as well...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>yes but you think that will wait until your own berserkproc is finished?

[B-Rabb]

LvL 58 Zerker here.. Nothing in EoF Line.. and I am berserk most of the time.. actually I think all the time..maybe like between 1-4 secs in any fight where I am not Berserk..<div></div>

[zormik]

<P>weird, that's different with me :smileysad:</P> <P>I can really see when a proc ends and i often have to wait a while for another proc ...</P>

[Oldlore]

When tanking I'm almost always berserk.  It's when I'm not tanking that I sometimes have to wait for a proc to happen.<div></div>

[uux]

<div><blockquote><hr>zormik wrote:<div></div> <p>I hate this change.  Now you can be max. 30s out of 1 min. berserk.  This is supposed to be our classdefining skill :smileymad:</p> <p>Another edge we loose ...</p><hr></blockquote>I don't believe the % chance to proc has changed at all, just the way it has been described.  Procs used to be normalized against a 3 second time period (and as far as I know, this is still true).  So for a 1 minute period, you had 20 opportunities to proc if you landed at least 1 hit per 3 second period.  So, it triggers roughly 3 times out of the 20 opportunities.   3 / 20 = 0.15.  15% chance to proc.  Looks like nothing has changed here.</div>

[fenixilius]

<DIV>Not really and complaint or an issue. But wasnt a % chance to proc just as simple as this new display, maybe better. So why did they waste time implementing this new display feature instead of bettering all the areas that now seem so messed up?. Get use of time by SoE in my opinion. And yes imb eing sarcastic.</DIV>