Zerker HPS

[vapporwolf]

well, here goes, i have posted a couple other threads trying to get a feel for the zerker class if and before i go through the painfull betrayal quest, thank you for all your responces in advance. <div></div>there is no question that a zerker is better at soloing than a guardian, my question is this, the guardian gets all the hp buffs and the zerker gets none, giving the edge to a guardian in end game/raid tanking as long as the mitigation is there.  i have seen pics where a guardian can break 8400 hps and 5400 mitigation self buffed. there does a zerker stand?at the moment i am teetering on which way to go, if there is not that much of a different i think i know which way i will be going. thanks again =-)

[KhayosAD]

I'm an end game raid tank with the WIS line maxed out and my self buffed mit is 5450 (once I get at least relic forearms, i'll be over 5600).  My HP isn't so great right now, hovering at around 7400.  Zerkers actually get mit buffs whereas the Guards get HP; I could probably get alot higher if I didn't have a mit fetish.

[Wilde3]

<DIV>Guardians get a group hp buff, but zerker gets a group in combat health regen buff. They're pretty much equal to each other. Also, guardians get a self STA buff, zerkers get a self in combat health regen thing. Both classes have hp buffs, they're just in different forms.</DIV>

[digitalblasphemy]

<div><blockquote><hr>KhayosAD wrote:<div></div>I'm an end game raid tank with the WIS line maxed out and my self buffed mit is 5450 (once I get at least relic forearms, i'll be over 5600).  My HP isn't so great right now, hovering at around 7400.  Zerkers actually get mit buffs whereas the Guards get HP; I could probably get alot higher if I didn't have a mit fetish.<hr></blockquote>Zerkers and Guards have the exact same mit buffs (defensive stance + wall of might/wall of ferocity + 30sec mit buff).Guardians have a self STA buff and a group HP buff.  I betrayed and lost about 1000hps going from my Guard to my Zerker.  Zerkers have a group incombat health regen buff and a self incombat health regen buff (triggers when damaged).  Guardians have a group + to defense buff.  Zerkers have a self buff similar to this but it decreases dps+haste and has to be refeshed every 30secs.So as far as mit buffs, we are exactly the same (apart from the +heat vs +cold).</div>

[KhayosAD]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> digitalblasphemy wrote:<BR> <DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> KhayosAD wrote:<BR> I'm an end game raid tank with the WIS line maxed out and my self buffed mit is 5450 (once I get at least relic forearms, i'll be over 5600).  My HP isn't so great right now, hovering at around 7400.  Zerkers actually get mit buffs whereas the Guards get HP; I could probably get alot higher if I didn't have a mit fetish.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Zerkers and Guards have the exact same mit buffs (defensive stance + wall of might/wall of ferocity + 30sec mit buff).<BR><BR>Guardians have a self STA buff and a group HP buff.  I betrayed and lost about 1000hps going from my Guard to my Zerker.  Zerkers have a group incombat health regen buff and a self incombat health regen buff (triggers when damaged).  <BR><BR>Guardians have a group + to defense buff.  Zerkers have a self buff similar to this but it decreases dps+haste and has to be refeshed every 30secs.<BR><BR>So as far as mit buffs, we are exactly the same (apart from the +heat vs +cold).<BR></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>You sure the Guard's defensive stance gives mit?

[Khal]

Except for heat instead of cold, its identical to ours.

[Danan]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> KhayosAD wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> digitalblasphemy wrote:<BR> <DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> KhayosAD wrote:<BR> I'm an end game raid tank with the WIS line maxed out and my self buffed mit is 5450 (once I get at least relic forearms, i'll be over 5600).  My HP isn't so great right now, hovering at around 7400.  Zerkers actually get mit buffs whereas the Guards get HP; I could probably get alot higher if I didn't have a mit fetish.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Zerkers and Guards have the exact same mit buffs (defensive stance + wall of might/wall of ferocity + 30sec mit buff).<BR><BR>Guardians have a self STA buff and a group HP buff.  I betrayed and lost about 1000hps going from my Guard to my Zerker.  Zerkers have a group incombat health regen buff and a self incombat health regen buff (triggers when damaged).  <BR><BR>Guardians have a group + to defense buff.  Zerkers have a self buff similar to this but it decreases dps+haste and has to be refeshed every 30secs.<BR><BR>So as far as mit buffs, we are exactly the same (apart from the +heat vs +cold).<BR></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>You sure the Guard's defensive stance gives mit?<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>All fighter classes get some  mitigation anbd resist in the defensive stance.

[Ep]

sta's maxxed on raids anyway, by like 100(no defiler in guild).<div></div>

[FlameingInfer]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> vapporwolf wrote:<BR>well, here goes, i have posted a couple other threads trying to get a feel for the zerker class if and before i go through the painfull betrayal quest, thank you for all your responces in advance. <BR> <BR>there is no question that a zerker is better at soloing than a guardian, my question is this, the guardian gets all the hp buffs and the zerker gets none, giving the edge to a guardian in end game/raid tanking as long as the mitigation is there.  i have seen pics where a guardian can break 8400 hps and 5400 mitigation self buffed. there does a zerker stand?<BR><BR>at the moment i am teetering on which way to go, if there is not that much of a different i think i know which way i will be going. <BR><BR>thanks again =-)<BR><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>What lvl is your toon?  You might want to just make a zerker and keep your guardian.  Doesnt take much to get up to the 30's and 40's anymore.  I wouldnt waist my time with the betreyal.  Just make another toon unless your like 60+