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Red Sox Suck
05-24-2005, 12:42 AM
<DIV>I hear that PvP is being enacted today, not sure if that is true. However if it is, what classes do you think us zerkers will have trouble with and which ones will we mop the floor with.</DIV>

FamilyManFir
05-24-2005, 02:13 AM
Dueling, one form of PvP, is in Test Update 9b. It remains to be seen when that goes live and whether or not dueling will be in the live version (what reports I've seen from Test say that it's rather buggy right now).TBH I really have no idea how Zerkers will stack up against other classes.

Norgoz
05-24-2005, 02:23 AM
PVP rumors fly around all the time, but I can assure you, it won't be happening anytime soon. PVP is to be implimented with SOE's new Expansion pack, "Deserts of Flame." I can also assure you that the PVP in the new expansion <i><u>is not character-based</u>. </i>As far as I know, the PVP in DoF is going to be arena-based. However, this is not like EQ1's arena's. The arena-based PVP is going to allow you to pick one of three factions to fight for in the arena. When you choose your faction, you then get the choice of picking a race for your "arena fighter," which will gain it's own respective levels and abilities just like your normal character would. When you begin an arena battle you take over control of your arena fighter, as if they were your character, until the battle is over. Each fight you have a choice to select a certain number of skills you will use in that battle based on what you want to use, and what you think your opponent will be using against you. Each arena fighter will have a list of their wins and losses and are also tradable, so you can train and sell them <span>:smileyvery-happy:</span> I know I got a little off-topic a bit with the expansion PVP, but I thought you might be interested in hearing about that. I got all of my information from SOE's magazine. They're sapose to have a web-based version, so I'll post a link when I find it. <div></div>

Khal
05-24-2005, 03:19 AM
<DIV>IF dueling was added, I do not think zerkers would fare that well.  Other classes that can heal are gonna duel well, prob paladins the best.  Again, big if they add it think I would only bother dueling other warriors, monks and maybe SK.</DIV>

scl
05-24-2005, 11:06 AM
Well if it's any help I saw a Wizard get trashed by a Berzerker on test... that may have something to do with the Wizard's root not working properly, but I'm just guessing. I can say it wasn't a pretty fight for the Wizard *smile* <P> I personally don't think Berzerkers will have much trouble with most classes. Although from what I've seen and heard from a lot of people is Templars are a force to be reckoned with. Guardians are pretty good too. Interestingly though, I haven't heard much about Paladins. Like someone posted previously, I would imagine Paladins would be the best duel class, but who knows? I guess we'll have to wait and see.

electron
05-24-2005, 04:13 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> scl wrote:<BR>Well if it's any help I saw a Wizard get trashed by a Berzerker on test... that may have something to do with the Wizard's root not working properly, but I'm just guessing. I can say it wasn't a pretty fight for the Wizard *smile* <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>Yes! Kick his [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot]!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>However, I think us warrior types would get schooled by other classes in game, namely scouts and the caster types... I am interested to see how a zerker would stack against a guardian. I'm sick of being overshadowed by them since I'm told they're the only tank in the game. I'd love to gut me a gaurdian sometime...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Oh yea, two thumbs down on that arena thing... :robotsurprised: </DIV>

Parax
05-24-2005, 05:43 PM
Dunno bout you, but I'm staying away from the monks. Saw one own big time, they got like a stifle attack that lasts 20 seconds plus one or 2 others. He riposted like every other attack when he was able to be hit with his mad avoidance. They are some nasty [Removed for Content] fighters, gonna have to figure out how ta hit the sob's first, then i wanna pummel me some kunk fu wanna be <span><span>:smileywink:</span></span> <div></div>

cr0wangel
05-24-2005, 06:46 PM
I don't know who will be the best, if dueling come live (cross my fingers), but I think scouts will be the worse, most of their damage and good attacks come from behind, they must be behind the mob to damage it, and how can you be behind in a duel? Except maybe for the first blow, then after they are stuck, they can't go behind. (The class is well made for PvE, I have nothing against scouts, I am just saying they will have a hard time with duels)

FamilyManFir
05-25-2005, 07:11 AM
Well, sorry folks, but Moor has stated that Dueling won't be coming with LU#9 after all, but later. <a href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=pvp&message.id=1022#M1022" target=_blank>Here's</a> where he talks about it.Basically, it's rough around the edges and they want more time to polish it. Moor won't commit to an ETA but he says that dueling will probably be coming "several updates from now." Whatever that means <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />.

TheFat
05-25-2005, 06:39 PM
I thought that scouts classes would stink in PvP also, due to their positional attacks, but then I saw a Ranger completely demolish a Zerk on test. The poor tank only got 1 hit in on the guy because the ranger was kiting him. Cheap? Yes, but it worked. I really hope they look at that before dueling goes live.

Kannab
05-25-2005, 07:25 PM
A player that knows how to play his zerker is gonna kick some major [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot].

Pnaxx
05-25-2005, 09:25 PM
yea...kiting could be a major bummer to a fighter...u cant kill what you can't hit.

Rian18
05-25-2005, 10:05 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> TheFates wrote:<BR>I thought that scouts classes would stink in PvP also, due to their positional attacks, but then I saw a Ranger completely demolish a Zerk on test. The poor tank only got 1 hit in on the guy because the ranger was kiting him. Cheap? Yes, but it worked. I really hope they look at that before dueling goes live. <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>If you are all talking about stuff you saw yesterday on test, I can let you know that was myself and a few friends who got copied over just seeing what dueling is all about. </P> <P>Was a zerker friend of mine who owned the wizard (terrible thing to watch) and I may well have been the ranger you saw kiting around the zerker.</P> <P>Anyway, zerkers are pretty [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot] good.  Not the best, but can hold their own.  I saw a zerker tear apart a guardian 2x if that helps.</P> <P>All in all tho, furies are just evil.  They can toss regen on, heal and have nice nukes and damage shields.</P> <P>Very tough to beat.  Very tough.</P> <P> </P> <P>Nial </P> <P> </P>

Corv
05-25-2005, 11:03 PM
<span><blockquote><hr>cr0wangel wrote:I don't know who will be the best, if dueling come live (cross my fingers), but I think scouts will be the worse, most of their damage and good attacks come from behind, they must be behind the mob to damage it, and how can you be behind in a duel? Except maybe for the first blow, then after they are stuck, they can't go behind. (The class is well made for PvE, I have nothing against scouts, I am just saying they will have a hard time with duels) <div></div><hr></blockquote> This came up the other day and I was talking with a dirge friend of mine about this.  I'm thinking that they might not do too badly unless you have your resists pumped.  They have a fear with a short recast timer.  While you're feared they can't damage you directly without breaking it, but they can stack about 1000 damage worth of spells plus some debuffs on you that will kick in later.  Plus they can hit you in the back while feared.   Finally, they have CA's which can add nice damage to their bow shots, and let's face it, they're not going to close to meelee range if they have a choice. <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  It's anyones guess if sneak will actually hide them from the sight of people they are duelling too.  Unless they [Removed for Content] fear in PVP (a distinct possibility), Dirges may be a very tough class to beat.  They'll be able to run circles around us and bow-kite us at the very least! </span><div></div>

Red Sox Suck
05-26-2005, 01:05 AM
<DIV>No smart zerker or fighter will fight a ranger, they will get owned.  Kiting will destroy us, So kinda sucks for ranger class for fact that rangers will never fight a tank.</DIV>

electron
05-26-2005, 03:14 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Rian18 wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE>Anyway, zerkers are pretty [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot] good.  Not the best, but can hold their own.  I saw a zerker tear apart a guardian 2x if that helps.</BLOCKQUOTE> <P></P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>Wohoo! /dohappydance</DIV>