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[Super Du]

<DIV> <P><SPAN>Why do you people constantly complain about serkies?  </SPAN></P> <P><SPAN>Ever since they took bloodrage away all i see is... waaa waaa i'm too lazy to use skill combos in order to berserk</SPAN></P> <P><SPAN></SPAN> </P> <P><SPAN>I'm 50 and i manage just fine, dps is outstanding even without never ending berserk.  On a multiple mob pulls it's way better then any other melee class i've played with, not many casters around for me to compare with, but if anything they should lower our dps to make other classes more balanced.  So if you think that your constant merit less complaints will cause developers give u more uberness, don't count on it.</SPAN></P> <P><SPAN></SPAN> </P> <P><SPAN>Don't worry some spells are not functioning the way they were designed but that's not just berserkers who are effected, every class out there has some problems at this point, heehee somebody didn't do proper testing prior to release <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></SPAN></P> <P><SPAN></SPAN> </P> <P><SPAN>The bottom line is that Berserker is a hybrid of monk and guardian so don't expect to have biggest dps on block or ability to take on any mobs punishment.  If those were the factors in your sub.class selection i'd suggest rerolling into an assassin or guardian.  Other then that, cheer up and enjoy gaming, zerkies are fun!!!</SPAN></P></DIV>

[AslaanH]

<DIV>I am also a level 50 berserker on Antonia Bayle and had doubts and my highs and lows. Lets face it, the zerk class has been one hell of a rollercoaster ride. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>At level 50 I believe our class is fine as is. I parse constantly and I do not feel a major hit to DPS is needed. Scouts and bruisers still outdamage us by a fair bit. Really what the zerk needs are their skills fixed and rampage set to a much shorter timer...i mean my bruiser buddys lvl 50 skill is similar to ours and is like 1.5 min recast....lol. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Overall its a great class and honestly feel we are balanced pretty well towards others, I just hope SOE doesnt try to tweak us and end up nerfing the hell out of us. Time will tell. </DIV>

[CherobylJ]

<DIV>Another thread that complains about those complaining about the complaining of a nerf that has/is about to/may happen now/in the past/or sometime soon.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I predict at least a couple of the below will appear:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>"I am X level and you all are whiners"</DIV> <DIV>"Just WAIT X level you will feel pain too"</DIV> <DIV>"whaaaaah"</DIV> <DIV>etc all</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Also a couple requisite Guard trolls will drop by with some gasoline (and probably that Monk who posts on all the boards with the shiny tiger sig)</DIV>

[Reol]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> CherobylJoe wrote:<BR> <DIV>Another thread that complains about those complaining about the complaining of a nerf that has/is about to/may happen now/in the past/or sometime soon.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I predict at least a couple of the below will appear:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>"I am X level and you all are whiners"</DIV> <DIV>"Just WAIT X level you will feel pain too"</DIV> <DIV>"whaaaaah"</DIV> <DIV>etc all</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Also a couple requisite Guard trolls will drop by with some gasoline (and probably that Monk who posts on all the boards with the shiny tiger sig)</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> Your an ignorant poster, and miss the point....lower level players read these posts, and get the impression that if you level up past lvl 36+ all will be better, when infact if the player is lvl 19 or lower can possibly see ...Oh wait...things might not be what they think and instead of wasting another 16+ lvls to find out they can chose a different route, such as Guardian if they so wish. Higher level berserkers are misleading players because they themselves have not yet been nerfed, but the fact is they will be.

[CherobylJ]

<DIV>I'm level 32...I'm curious how that makes me ignorant?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Check my posts I have been just as passionate about nerfs as anyone.  just one more noise thread helps noone.</DIV>

[Reol]

<DIV>I just get the feeling your saying to people don't post about complaints, we all pay for the game and i rather complain about problems rather than pretend that everything is ok.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I would not want a new player whose building a warrior to get the impression that all is well on the berserker front because the higher level berserker not yet touched by a nerf say everything is peachy. I think a careful warning to those players taht are starting out, that going down the berserker route may and will potentially lead to a place they don't want to be.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>If someone has been indecisive as to whether ot make a zerker or a guardian, and they base there decision on the fact that ok the game is rough till lvl 36, then it gets better..only to get to lvl 30+ then find out that they went and nerfed up the berserkers, well I have a 30+ zerker and If I could I would remake em myself to a guardian as SOE seems to have no clue about what they want in this game. With the tunnel focus they have on DPS atm  all dps users are in trouble.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[AslaanH]

<DIV>I understand your unhappy with your zerker but truth is right now zerks are fine end game. If SOE does decrese our DPS I am sure we will be compensated. Guardians and zerkers are near identical classes, people keep whining saying they should have gone guardian like theres some major difference and there is not.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Last night we did two groups to CT ring event. I was MT in group one and lvl 50 guardian was MT in group 2. We both had nearly the same HP and AC and I did more DPS. We both tanked fine, we later did some trash raid mobs and we both took turns as MT. We both did fine. So those thinking guards will somehow be wayyyy better then a zerk are fooling themselves. The biggest enemy right now is the playerbase and their mindset. Bruisers had to bust [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot] to get people to think they could tank or do insane DPS and now they are wanted. No different with zerks. </DIV>

[Reol]

<DIV>SOE I think has this idea that saying sorry, for the changes is compensation....but OH we got your money so all is well. Balance is a relative term used to define each class with impossible parameters, your a warrior but can only use your melee skills on wednesday, your a caster but can only cast when its windy, healers do whatever you like...and lastly scouts...your deadly as long as the mob don't look at you...or your dead.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>BTW I have a bruiser too...and after this nifty little patch to make mobs hit me after lvl 40+ how many tanking jobs you think im going to be getting...as the agility nerf hits bruisers/monks as much as assassin...even more so since were supposed to be tanks.</DIV><p>Message Edited by Reolas on <span class=date_text>01-24-2005</span> <span class=time_text>02:16 PM</span>

[Sinkat]

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Super Du wrote:<BR> <DIV> <P><SPAN>Why do you people constantly complain about serkies?  </SPAN></P> <P><SPAN>Ever since they took bloodrage away all i see is... waaa waaa i'm too lazy to use skill combos in order to berserk</SPAN></P> <P><SPAN>I'm 50 and i manage just fine, dps is outstanding even without never ending berserk.  On a multiple mob pulls it's way better then any other melee class i've played with, not many casters around for me to compare with, but if anything they should lower our dps to make other classes more balanced.  So if you think that your constant merit less complaints will cause developers give u more uberness, don't count on it.</SPAN></P> <P><SPAN>Don't worry some spells are not functioning the way they were designed but that's not just berserkers who are effected, every class out there has some problems at this point, heehee somebody didn't do proper testing prior to release <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></SPAN></P> <P><SPAN>The bottom line is that Berserker is a hybrid of monk and guardian so don't expect to have biggest dps on block or ability to take on any mobs punishment.  If those were the factors in your sub.class selection i'd suggest rerolling into an assassin or guardian.  Other then that, cheer up and enjoy gaming, zerkies are fun!!!</SPAN></P></DIV> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>I agree, I think the berzerkers are fine as they are, I think all the people complaining were doing it because they were used to use always the same skill and when they fixed it everybody was complaining, but there are many wasy to play, and lots of skills.. I think they are ok as they are.</P> <P>Good Luck!<BR></P>

[Davish_Darkwolf]

<DIV>Where did this all come from now????</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Now that the dust was settling.... yet another post this time from a supposedly level 50  who  wants his dps to be nerfed????</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>LOL</DIV>

[Jher]

<blockquote><hr>Sinkatze wrote:<P>I agree, I think the berzerkers are fine as they are, I think all the people complaining were doing it because they were used to use always the same skill and when they fixed it everybody was complaining, but there are many wasy to play, and lots of skills.. I think they are ok as they are.</P><P>Good Luck!<BR></P><hr></blockquote>Sinkatze,I keep seeing your name pop up on these threads, telling people to shush - Quite amusing considering only recently you were saying how you were looking forward to starting EQ2... I sincerely hope you ARE actually playing, and playing a berserker now if you are going to comment on the complaining.Now, the OP is obviously trolling as the post itself offers nothing constructive - indeed, nothing at all barring a 'shut up' - I've made my own thoughts known on the latest changes in both posts and /feedback... All we can do is stay reasonable and constructive. Heated demands merely play into the hands of those who want the class nerfed harder, as it gives the likes of Moorgard the chance to write more patronising posts about how we're simply being emotional.

[CherobylJ]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Reolas wrote:<BR> <DIV>I just get the feeling your saying to people don't post about complaints, we all pay for the game and i rather complain about problems rather than pretend that everything is ok.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> <HR> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>Naah man I guess I'm just resigned to our fate whatever that might be.  This thread just kinda hit a nerve cause we have seen so MANY like them and it just isnt going to make a darn bit of difference.  It wasnt meant personally towards you or any other poster; I apologize if it came across that way.</DIV><p>Message Edited by CherobylJoe on <span class=date_text>01-25-2005</span> <span class=time_text>08:49 AM</span>

[Feral R]

Seems to me that the poster is just saying that hey, at level 50 things arent so bad. And the truth that all classes have things broken with them.I constantly parse as well, even during a raid last night on the x4 in EF. Grouped with a 50 Assassin and a 50 Brigand and a 50 Troubador, I did over 20 dps MORE then the next highest (over 107k total fight). And I'm just lvl 48. So we can do it, its a matter of skill and equipment. If you dont think that's true, then quit or reroll a guardian along with the other flock of people. I am sticking where I am.

[Reol]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> CherobylJoe wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Reolas wrote:<BR> <DIV>I just get the feeling your saying to people don't post about complaints, we all pay for the game and i rather complain about problems rather than pretend that everything is ok.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> <HR> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>Naah man I guess I'm just resigned to our fate whatever that might be.  This thread just kinda hit a nerve cause we have seen so MANY like them and it just isnt going to make a darn bit of difference.  It wasnt meant personally towards you or any other poster; I apologize if it came across that way.</DIV> <P>Message Edited by CherobylJoe on <SPAN class=date_text>01-25-2005</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>08:49 AM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <P>Totally understandable, and I totallly can relate, as I take this personally to some degree, as I have like everyone else...invested time and money into this hobby, and these posts do hit the raw nerves frequently.</P> <P>I also feel that If I can't change things, I might as well try and help inform newer players who might be thinking guardians/berserker, and atleast they can be aware that yes its highly likely that within the next 2 months, the berserker overall even at lvl 50, will take a dps hit knocking them well down the ladder. Better to be aware of what your getting into than to be surprised and disappointed, as I think alot of people are.</P> <P>One other thing I will mention...I made a Berserker first day the game came out...well fighter/warrior. I didn't have any false hopes of being the best dps'er in the game, just wanted to be a good offensive tank, the berserker in its current form to me is a very poor example of that IMO, but what can you expect from a company that has cheaped out in high lvl content, and lazy fixes to other issues in this game.</P><p>Message Edited by Reolas on <span class=date_text>01-25-2005</span> <span class=time_text>09:13 AM</span>

[YellowSpi]

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