View Full Version : Any advice for solo littles Named please ?
restinpea
11-16-2005, 09:07 PM
<DIV>Hi, </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>60 guard here , Full rareT6 stuff and all spells in Adept3 , 3 masters et 4 T6 Fabled. Some time i like to solo and try Named like in Sanctorium or Migratul Menagerie for exemple (where named mobs are Green and other regular mobs Grey). It s a pain in the XXXX to kill them...</DIV> <DIV>I tryed different styles : ( Offensive Stance / Defensive Stance ) + ( 1HS+Shield / 2HS (prismatic) ) in all combo .. i died so many times.</DIV> <DIV>Only One time i succed on the sorcorer in Menagerie by using Stifle and our 2 interrupts when i saw him begin to cast a spell and letting natural DPS kill him but i think i got lucky on this kill.</DIV> <DIV>Any Strategy for solo friends ?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>TY</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Normandy , 60 guard on Storms.</DIV>
Allowin
11-16-2005, 09:57 PM
<P>yeah, roll up a brusier or a monk and bench the guardian.</P> <P> </P> <P> </P> <P>or you could roll up a SK, or a pally, or even a necro. and you could also make a conj, coercer or illusionist. a fury would work too. and a warden also. </P>
Drulak
11-16-2005, 09:58 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> restinpeace wrote:<BR> <DIV>Hi, </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>60 guard here , Full rareT6 stuff and all spells in Adept3 , 3 masters et 4 T6 Fabled. Some time i like to solo and try Named like in Sanctorium or Migratul Menagerie for exemple (where named mobs are Green and other regular mobs Grey). It s a pain in the XXXX to kill them...</DIV> <DIV>I tryed different styles : ( Offensive Stance / Defensive Stance ) + ( 1HS+Shield / 2HS (prismatic) ) in all combo .. i died so many times.</DIV> <DIV>Only One time i succed on the sorcorer in Menagerie by using Stifle and our 2 interrupts when i saw him begin to cast a spell and letting natural DPS kill him but i think i got lucky on this kill.</DIV> <DIV>Any Strategy for solo friends ?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>TY</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Normandy , 60 guard on Storms.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Re-Roll a Monk <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR>
Gaige
11-17-2005, 01:30 AM
If you really reroll (which I wouldn't suggest) the best solo'ers are hands down the summoer classes, not the brawler classes.
<span><blockquote><hr>Gaige wrote:If you really reroll (which I wouldn't suggest) the best solo'ers are hands down the summoer classes, not the brawler classes. <div></div><hr></blockquote> Don't want us knowing just how over powered you are?</span><div></div>
Gungo
11-17-2005, 02:12 AM
<P>No i think gaige admitted before brawlers solo better then gaurds, The fact is rangers and every caster soloers better then brawlers, but gaurds tend to forget to add that fact. </P> <P>do i think guards need a better offesnive stance for soloing.. yup</P> <P>do i think bruisers soloing blue heroics is game breaking ... nope</P> <P><SPAN class=time_text></SPAN> </P><p>Message Edited by Gungo on <span class=date_text>11-16-2005</span> <span class=time_text>01:14 PM</span>
I don't care about any other archtype but fighters. It's obvious no other archtype follows the same rules as ours, or all scouts would dps the same. I don't care if bruisers can solo blue heroics. What I care about is the fact that they solo better, have better utility and tank just as well. How can that be balance? <div></div>
Wasuna
11-17-2005, 02:55 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Gungo wrote:<BR> <P>No i think gaige admitted before brawlers solo better then gaurds, The fact is rangers and every caster soloers better then brawlers, but gaurds tend to forget to add that fact. </P> <P>do i think guards need a better offesnive stance for soloing.. yup</P> <P>do i think bruisers soloing blue heroics is game breaking ... nope</P> <P><SPAN class=time_text></SPAN> </P> <P>Message Edited by Gungo on <SPAN class=date_text>11-16-2005</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>01:14 PM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>I can't solo a blue heroic therefore we are not equal as fighters and the game is broken. You can't have it both ways Gungo. Equal is equal. If we are not equal in all aspects then we must be not equal. You pick what Guardians should be better than a brawler at. Tanking? DPS? Utility?<BR>
Gungo
11-17-2005, 03:29 AM
There must be a small reading comprehension with gaurds because clearly anyone who actually reads what i posted can see <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> <P>"do i think guards need a better offesnive stance for soloing.. yup"</P> <P>Maybe thats not clear enuff for you. Maybe i need to say Offensive stance needs to have more attributable DPS. Did i say brawler soloing compared to gards is EQUAL... let me see.. Nope i didn't in fact i said brawlers solo better then guards. The fact is you don't comprehend the argument. </P> <P>Well you asked me a question and i will happily supply an answer. What do i think guards should be better at compared to a brawler? Tanking melee mobs and multiple target agro and useful group protection utility (whereas zerker have more aoe dps). What do i think brawlers should be better at compared to gaurds. DPS, single target agro, and solo utility. Now this is not to say guards should be pre-LU13 tanking. On the contrary tanking atm from gaurds to brawlers is balanced. Guards are slightly better tanks atm although they do need a bit more DPS, especially when in offense stance. </P></DIV>
restinpea
11-17-2005, 04:50 AM
<DIV>Oh please guys ..... Not even an serious answer , again this Flamewar. If you don t success to kill those named , no prob just say it but if tou have a trick i may be ignore please post it.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>1) i am happy with my guard in raids/groups since last patch.</DIV> <DIV>2) i am desapointed buy Guardian solo possibility</DIV> <DIV>3) Gaige guessed right (Gaaaa <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> ) i ll not reroll ...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>just my personnal vision. No prob if this thread go down like all interesting thread which don t are about Guardians probs <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </DIV>
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Dedite wrote:<BR>I don't care about any other archtype but fighters. <FONT color=#ffff00> It's obvious no other archtype follows the same rules as ours</FONT>, or all scouts would dps the same. I don't care if bruisers can solo blue heroics. What I care about is the fact that they solo better, have better utility and tank just as well. How can that be balance? <BR><BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>Priest sub-classes fall into the same boat as Fighters.</DIV>
jobu4
11-17-2005, 08:17 PM
Wow!!! This strategy is really gonna help me solo.. Thanks for all the information. How is sony gonna help us if we can't even help each other. <div></div>
Benfyn
11-17-2005, 09:25 PM
<P>I try soloing Menagerie pretty much everday but haven't been able to solo the last mob yet. What kills me the most is the disease DOT that he invariably gets on me. I try curing, I try equipping all the disease resistant gear i can find, I try using potions to add another 600 disease resistance but in the end it comes down to about 3% of his life left. That's using Unyielding will to keep fighting, Sentry Watch (which I don't think is working as intended but 'oh well' i'll take that self rez), Tower of Stone (but since it's a DOT none of the hits seem to qualify for immunity) and Guardian Sphere for the stoneskin. I've tried it in both Defensive and Offensive stances and I best I've ever got was 3% in both cases. </P> <P> </P> <P>If there is a trick then I don't know it. Most of my friends, with the exception of a couple of templars, are able to do it solo at same level or a little lower. Sullon is a push over though but I still uses defensive there for the heat buff.</P> <P> </P> <P>Krrrath, lvl 60 Guardian of Kithicor</P>
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> restinpeace wrote:<BR> <DIV>Oh please guys ..... Not even an serious answer , again this Flamewar. If you don t success to kill those named , no prob just say it but if tou have a trick i may be ignore please post it.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>1) i am happy with my guard in raids/groups since last patch.</DIV> <DIV>2) i am desapointed buy Guardian solo possibility</DIV> <DIV>3) Gaige guessed right (Gaaaa <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> ) i ll not reroll ...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>just my personnal vision. No prob if this thread go down like all interesting thread which don t are about Guardians probs <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Potions... Potions and more potions... Play with a multitude of them to see what works best. Back in the day when I was playing my guard I had a craptastic time with the Champ in SP. The ONLY way I was able to finally beat him was with potions. Also one thing to note, (I havent checked for a while) but you used to be able to stakc different types of food. Get str/stam/agil food try stacking them. I know all this is expensive, but based off your bio, I can see money is prolly not an issue. <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Might even think about trying out some wisdom items/potions for resists againts the caster named. Let me know how things turned out, I may..................... may just dust off my guard now that Phinn is 60 and Im bored as hell other than raiding.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Gluck my firend~</DIV>
sammythebull
11-17-2005, 09:36 PM
If you're getting that close (3%) to killing him, i don't think strategy is the problem, execution is more likely what will get you over the top. Try using your 2h'er and really concentrate on timing it to maximize your dmg, as soon as you see the autoattack dmg fly over its head, cast a CA, wait until you see the next auto attack dmg and then let another CA fly. The difference between spamming CA's as soon as they're available (and having a 5 or 6 second period where none of your CA's are available) and timing it to maximize your damage will surely cover that 3% health. I haven't actually parsed going CA spam crazy and being meticulous on technique but I can clearly notice how being efficient helps.
Benfyn
11-17-2005, 09:54 PM
<DIV>heh I very carefully manage my power in that fight, trust me. I have tried it many different ways. I try to time the stuns and interrupts and do take full advantage of the autoattack to fill the void between CAs. I still try it because it is that close and victory is going to be sweet. I'm using damage shield potions too for that extra damage. I even use some of the golems to get Heros Armor heroic opportunity up before the fight.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I'm reaching deep in the bag of tricks.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Krrrath, lvl 60 Guardian of Kithicor</DIV>
restinpea
11-17-2005, 10:12 PM
<DIV>just a reply to thank you guys for telling your experiences. Good to see i am not the only one to have probs hehe , in an other hand that sad for us. I ll keep search too then and reply if i can discover a "trick". Will try Sanctorium again this evening.</DIV> <DIV>TY again.</DIV>
Mentin
11-18-2005, 03:10 AM
<DIV>Low solo ability should be compensated by increased group/raid ability.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>
EvilIguana9
11-18-2005, 07:47 AM
<span><blockquote><hr>Mentin wrote:<div>Low solo ability should be compensated by increased <b>solo</b> ability.</div> <div> </div><hr></blockquote>Fixed!</span><div></div>
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