Are Gaurdians over powered?

[Anz]

<DIV>Saw this Gaurdian Soloing Vox last night <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><IMG src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/anzus/EQ2_000009.jpg"></DIV>

[Aven Elonis]

<P>Not even in my dreams, do I think I could solo Vision of Vox.</P> <P>I think the highest triple up heroic I've done is 51 (maybe 52) tops.</P> <P>I have mostly adept 3, all T6 gear. And if I use Def Mode, I'd dead even faster.</P> <P>Not sure what this guy has on, but gear has to be better than mine. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>Aven Elonis</P> <P>60 Guardian, Tempest, Steamfont</P> <P>PS hmm maybe for laughs and giggles, I'll try Vision of Vox solo, and post the screenshot of my cold dead body <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P>

[Wado]

"Aurelius heals Sorg for 0 hitpoints." "Sorg's <b>Voracious Soul</b> hits...." He wasn't solo. <div></div> <div></div><p>Message Edited by Wadoon on <span class=date_text>11-05-2005</span> <span class=time_text>07:26 AM</span>

[Macross_JR]

<span><blockquote><hr>Anzac wrote:<div>Saw this Gaurdian Soloing Vox last night <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/anzus/EQ2_000009.jpg"></div><hr></blockquote>Man what some people will post to keep Guardians down.  If he is any guild worth thier salt, most of the raid will be running in and out due to WoF and Vox's elemental dot.  The rest of the raid is probably around the corner waiting for the call in.  Jeez, if you don't know anything about raiding strats don't post pic's of someone raiding a static.</span><div></div>

[Ladicav]

<P>You saw it huh <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>I knew this was a fake before I even got past the first post ;p</P> <P>Nice try. For kicks, one day I'm going to go solo Terrorantula and I'll post the pics up here also of me kicking his bum, because Guardians are so clearly overpowered :smileytongue:</P>

[boucani]

<P>Rofl, guards overpowered???  what game ur playing???  Do you have a monk or zeker as alt or what???</P> <P> </P> <P>Rustan (guard 45) on Lavastorm</P>

[Wabit]

man hes good, first set of adds dead getting ready for second set...  ghosts who heal and and give procs... <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Wabit</DIV>

[vonillathegoril]

well we all know this is bs and his raid is in the tunnel over to the left <div></div>

[Anz]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> vonillathegorilla wrote:<BR>well we all know this is bs and his raid is in the tunnel over to the left<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>BINGO!</P> <P>Glad some saw it for the joke that it was! Geat screenshot though!</P> <P>Sorg done a great job at tanking her.</P>

[Drulak]

HEHE , you know its posts like this that give the Brawlers and Crusaders most of their "Facts" about how good Guardians are <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Uumuuanu]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Anzac wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> vonillathegorilla wrote:<BR>well we all know this is bs and his raid is in the tunnel over to the left<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>BINGO!</P> <P>Glad some saw it for the joke that it was! Geat screenshot though!</P> <P>Sorg done a great job at tanking her.</P> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR> </P> <P>Although I see your humor in this,  99% of all the people that saw this thread NEVER got down to this point and saw that it was a fake.  I would guess that every developer look at it and though  /nerf that runt again.</P> <P> </P> <P>/sigh  Honestly I think my only mistake in the game so far was when my guild leader asked me what I was going to be at level 8,  I said guardian, he suggested otherwise and I didn't listen.   Now both of us no longer play guardians,  he quit,  I retired.</P>

[DanielAtchison]

all he was doing was trying to make us look like we can do thing alone which we arent able to do. he might be doing that just to get us nerfed more and stuff. but we caught him out. dont bring that shiiit around here <div></div>

[tsaav]

please delete this thread. <div></div>

[Anz]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> DanielAtchison wrote:<BR>all he was doing was trying to make us look like we can do thing alone which we arent able to do. <BR>he might be doing that just to get us nerfed more and stuff. but we caught him out. dont bring that shiiit around here<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>my god any 5yr old would of known that NO class can solo vox! Its a great pic, actually my new background. SORG the invincible!

[Rockroi]

<P>**REMOVED FLAME BAIT**</FONT></P><p>Message Edited by Raijinn Thunderguard on <span class=date_text>11-07-2005</span> <span class=time_text>04:59 PM</span>

[Prediant]

<P>**REMOVED FLAME BAIT**</FONT></P><p>Message Edited by Raijinn Thunderguard on <span class=date_text>11-07-2005</span> <span class=time_text>04:58 PM</span>

[Benfyn]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Rockroi wrote:<BR>Are people seriously allarmed by this thread?<BR><BR>Is anyone realistically suggesting that this was nothing more than a joke?  That this thread was intended to be (perish the thought) fun?<BR><BR>According to the "Oliver Stone" arm of the Guardian Class, Anzac posted this picture for the sole purpose of nerfing the Guardians.  <BR><BR>Okay- can anyone see the fundamental flaw in that logic?  Most of the people who subscribe to this theory already believe that the Guardian is boarder-line unplayable (which is untrue).  So, if we are already a hurting class, why even <I>bother </I>to see us dropped down another peg?<BR><BR>The true reactionaries then fly out with "Hey, a Dev is going to see this thread and think..." Okay- forget the fact that an 8 year old could figure out that this was a case of a joke (remember those?).  However, a Dev (the people who developed the game that we all play) would be boarder-line moronic to just look at the pic and go- "One Guardian against Vox? Obviously that must be stopped!  Forget research, forget reason, forget emperical evidence used to a rational end- lets just jump to a rash conclusion and nerf these guys!!!"  You then have a couple of people who seriously believe that nobody will read this thread all the way through.  Theoretically, "99%" of the people will not scroll through the rest of the thread.  Ninety-Nine%?  This thread has about 7 posts.  That would mean that 700 people have looked at this thread.  <BR><BR>And then you would have to forget the 17-20 threads on the Guardian board that are <I>dedicated </I>to how <B>bad </B>we have it.  In other words, everyone would have to <I>just look </I>at this link, ignore almost all the other posts on this board and then ONLY look at the first post.  How mind-numbingly stupid would that person have to be?  <BR><BR>So why is this such a big deal?<BR><BR>Because Guardians have to start discussing those issues that are truly broken; that are truly holding the sub-class back; that are actually important isntead of doing the "point and shout" method of argument where every single solitary post, flicker, shadow, and title is somehow a vieled attack against the Guardian class and designed to hurt us.  This is nonsense.  This is <B>not </B>an issue.  This is a symptom of a Guardian sub-class that has become "Chicken Little" and is intent on crying that "The Sky Is Falling" instead of addressing what's important.<BR><BR>lettheflammingbegin<BR><BR>Rockroi<BR>Lvl 52 Guardian<BR>GriffonSlayer Guild<BR>Unrest Server<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Um, Rockroi there were about a dozen responses to the original post so replying in it's defense as if the whole community was in an uproar about it is an overreaction at best. Most of us didn't really care as it was insubstantial post that did nothing to help or hinder our efforts to better the class. It was kind of funny, in a lame sort of way, which was probably the spirit in which it was intended.<BR> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I mean, i get why you replied the way you did but it's totally unnecessary to start sounding off about the "true reactionaries" and what they <STRONG>might</STRONG> say or believe. As a joke the original post touched a nerve with some people and they said as much. But your post in defense of the original post is even more of a knee-jerk reaction than the responses that prompted your post. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Also, ending a reply with "lettheflamingbegin" is passive aggressive flamebaiting and implies that you posted for nothing else than to stir up trouble. Pretty sure that flamebaiting is against the rules of this forum but i'd have to check it.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>So to sum up...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Original post: Marginally funny, but generally ignored by the bulk of the posters on this forum. </DIV> <DIV>Your Reply: Unwarranted and unnecessary defense of the original post against some imagined "true reactionaries" who were apparently greatly threatened by the picture in question.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Krrrath, lvl 60 Guardian of Kithicor. </DIV>

[Anz]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Benfynyn wrote:<BR><BR> It was kind of funny, in a lame sort of way, which was probably the spirit in which it was intended.<BR> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Krrrath, lvl 60 Guardian of Kithicor. </DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>now ya talking!!!! Lame  comedy, which has provided a laugh from the uptight responses of a few...</P> <P>Go go Gaurdian power!!!!<BR></P>

[KAM]

<P>**REMOVED FLAME BAIT**</FONT></P><p>Message Edited by Raijinn Thunderguard on <span class=date_text>11-08-2005</span> <span class=time_text>11:40 AM</span>

[Rockroi]

Benfynyn: I understand your point, but my issue was with those posts that were already on the board.  In other words, I was not speculating as to things that might be said by some possible Guardians; I was reiterating what others had actually stated.  One person did state that a dev is going to nerf us again based solely on this thread; another stated that 99% of the people who read this thread will just look at the picture, draw a radical conclusion, and then stop reading.  My post was then removed as being "flamebate" which is interesting as I was simply responding to what was already stated, so I assume that the theory that I went off without warrent is justified.  Was I overly passionate? Sure; happens all the time.  Was I innaccurate?  Seperate matter.  I guess at worst I overreacted accurately to an overreaction that was inaccurate.  <div></div>

[frooz]

Nerf the lot of em I reckon. I mean cmon... a guardian.. tanking a mob? Who's bright idea was that? <div></div>

[KAM]

Oh come on TG ... that was the least offending post ever created in guardian forums. You guys should try fixing something instead of spending all your time editing harmless posts.<div></div>

[Dovifat]

That picture is more "proof" than about 90% of all nerf and whine threads contain. Maybe you'll remember this thread next time you read Randomguy1231654 claiming how he saw class <> do <>, or how he could prove ( but never does ) that class <> is so much better at <> than class <>. <div></div>

[psubull]

<DIV>**REMOVED INAPPROPRIATE COMMENTS**</FONT></DIV><p>Message Edited by Raijinn Thunderguard on <span class=date_text>11-21-2005</span> <span class=time_text>10:25 AM</span>

[Tudd]

Lol, this thread is hilarious. Love all the flames and over the board reactions. No posts from Gaige or someone attacking him, so thread isn't all it could be. Still [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] funny though. <div></div>

[Cronostri]

lol this is a funny thread, I for one already gave up on my level 51 guardian, is just not worth the hassle. I started all over again and now I have a level 55 character, if you are not happy just change class I don't think this one isn't worth the flames of this thread.

[Anz]

<P>wow this post is still going :smileyvery-happy:</P> <P>I better work on some more pics, Im thinking along the lines of Darathar this time with a Fury soloing her.</P>