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Blackguard
08-15-2005, 09:43 PM
<div></div>3rd runner-up: <b>Carin Ashley</b> of Jupiter, FL 2nd runner-up: <b>Teresa Noreen</b> of Duluth, GA 1st runner-up: <b>Bridget Peters</b> of Las Vegas, NV Winner: <font color="#ffcc00"><b>Anna Wainscoat</b></font> of Davis, CA Congratulations to <a href="http://questforantonia.station.sony.com/en/contestant.vm?cId=569" target="_blank">Anna Wainscoat</a> for winning the Sony Online Entertainment/Stuff Magazine Quest for Antonia Model Search and becoming the new Antonia Bayle! For more information on each of the Quest for Antonia finalists, visit the <a href="http://questforantonia.station.sony.com/en/finalists.vm" target="_blank">Quest for Antonia website</a>. <div></div>

Xalmat
08-15-2005, 09:56 PM
Congrats to Anna!Now how about a Lucan D'Lere contest now? <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Fern
08-15-2005, 09:58 PM
So who was the Old Antonia then? <div></div>

Jezekie
08-15-2005, 10:14 PM
So much for letting a bird win that actually plays the game, or at least pretends too <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <div></div>

Ravenmi
08-15-2005, 10:21 PM
Probably the last one of the finalists I'd have picked but I'm sure she'll still do a fine job.  (still thinks they made a mistake tho, heh)

RedRockCandy!
08-15-2005, 10:29 PM
<div></div><div></div><div></div>Worthless, needed to be someone that played the game. The contest should have required that only players of the game were able to enter, I really didnt want some dumb bitty that probably doesnt even know her butthole from a keyboard to win a game character look-alike contest, such a disgrace to the gamers. <div></div><p>We need a recount. <span class="time_text"></span></p><p>Message Edited by RedRockCandy! on <span class=date_text>08-15-2005</span> <span class=time_text>02:36 PM</span>

Zerv
08-15-2005, 10:38 PM
Yup stupid contest, should have only let eq2 players enter the game.  Out of the finalist the only one to play eq2 should have won hands down.  The entire contest was just "who could ever get the most friends to register and vote" since anyone could register for a station account.  Should have only been eq2 players, and eq2 players voting. <div></div>

GilfalasElaandrin
08-15-2005, 10:40 PM
<P>Got to say I am very suprised. I dont recognize any of those faces as being the top 6 or so ladies when the initial voting was done.</P> <P>Can't say I am not extremely disappointed that one of the many EQ 2 playing ladies that were in the top 10 did not even make it into the final 6 or win. Seems rather odd to me not to mention a bad PR move.</P> <P>I know most if not all players wanted a model who played EQ 2, even if she was not as 'proffesional' looking as these swimsuit bunnies you chose. At least we would know the Antonia Model would be a person like the rest of us, someone who loved the game.</P>

Rene
08-15-2005, 10:48 PM
<P>Ironically, in the interviews that were posted they ALL said they played the game.  TN was honest about that she does not play much, and only has two low level characters, but at least she know what class they were though.  I feel most of the others were blowing smoke.</P> <P>I am very curious about how the judging worked for the "finalists".  I see no mention of it anywhere.  With all the upcoming changes to EQ2 this is just about as meaningless as peoples uproar about getting a monkey.... but... curiosity is what it is.</P> <P> </P>

ganjookie
08-15-2005, 11:09 PM
Congrats from your neighbor in Sacramento! <div></div>

MaltanisKolba
08-15-2005, 11:15 PM
<DIV>I think out of the finalists, the winner was the best choice.   </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> If you honestly thought they would pick a real player over someone better looking you were kidding yourself.   Stuff is in it to make money.   Majority of people buying it probably dont even know what EQ2 is much less care.  I'd rather it be someone attractive that doesnt play than someone kind of fugly and does (Sry,  TN wasnt that great looking even though she had the outfit) that the world sees that is unframiliar with the game.  Thus giving game more appeal and thoughts like "gee wiz  may wanna look into that game"...If most of the real players (TN included) had been on cover and I didnt know game,  I'd probably think,  "Wow,  thats best they could do?"</DIV><p>Message Edited by MaltanisKolbair on <span class=date_text>08-15-2005</span> <span class=time_text>12:20 PM</span>

Vidneras
08-15-2005, 11:17 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> ganjookie wrote:<BR>Congrats from your neighbor in Sacramento!<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>I'm also in Sactown! Grats neighbor girl!</DIV>

Jasazick
08-15-2005, 11:19 PM
<span><blockquote><hr>RedRockCandy! wrote:<div></div><div></div><div></div>Worthless, needed to be someone that played the game. The contest should have required that only players of the game were able to enter, I really didnt want some dumb bitty that probably doesnt even know her butthole from a keyboard to win a game character look-alike contest, such a disgrace to the gamers. <div></div><p>We need a recount. <span class="time_text"></span></p><p>Message Edited by RedRockCandy! on <span class="date_text">08-15-2005</span> <span class="time_text">02:36 PM</span></p><hr></blockquote>I agree completly, I think the whole contest should have been held at a Fan Faire. Every applicant should have been given a quiz first, proctored by a SOE rep just like if you were taking the SATs. From the pool of ladies who passed the quiz voting should have commenced. </span><div></div>

Rene
08-15-2005, 11:21 PM
<DIV>TN not that great looking?  Are you kidding?  Did you see her website?  Sure she does not have the cookie cutter LA club hottie look, but beautiful in a unique way and seems interesting as well as intelligent.  Sorry..but I would much rather have someone who was really interested in the contest than some walk up at fan faire (1st runner up I believe).  Pretty women are a dime a dozen.   Military Vets, with bodies like TN and who know the difference between a Priest and a Mage...  well.. priceless.</DIV> <DIV>No disrespect to the winner and Grats.. but I do not think she was most peoples first choice.  I am curious who was choosing though...</DIV><p>Message Edited by Rene on <span class=date_text>08-15-2005</span> <span class=time_text>12:24 PM</span>

MaltanisKolba
08-15-2005, 11:24 PM
<P>Again,  </P> <P> TN Cute? sure.  Cover of Stuff Magazine?  Not so much.  They are out for general public not EQ2fanboys (myself inc.)</P> <p>Message Edited by MaltanisKolbair on <span class=date_text>08-15-2005</span> <span class=time_text>12:30 PM</span>

Warg
08-15-2005, 11:26 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> GilfalasElaandrin wrote:<BR> <P>Got to say I am very suprised. I dont recognize any of those faces as being the top 6 or so ladies when the initial voting was done.</P> <P><BR></P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>I was surprised also when i saw the finalists as most of them I had never seen before on the voting website. I wasn't going on there religiously (2 or 3 times tops) but it knew who was in the lead up to the last weeks.</P> <P>Not to mention the photo was kind of random as I would see the same girl twice then came a new one.</P> <P> </P> <P>Whether people are happy or not that Anna is a gamer, I can just imagine the amount of people drooling over her at conventions and other promos.</P> <P> </P> <P>To those that didn't win, cheer up you're all gorgeous!</P> <P>Congratulations Anna!</P> <p>Message Edited by Wargut on <span class=date_text>08-15-2005</span> <span class=time_text>12:29 PM</span>

Copperha
08-15-2005, 11:29 PM
<DIV>OMG is there ANYTHING that people on these forums DON'T complain about? </DIV>

Sural_Argonus
08-15-2005, 11:32 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Copperhand wrote:<BR> <DIV>OMG is there ANYTHING that people on these forums DON'T complain about? </DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>ummmm....nope</DIV>

RedRockCandy!
08-15-2005, 11:41 PM
<div></div><div></div><span>Worthless, needed ot be someone that played the game. The contest should have required that only players of the game were able to enter. I really didnt want some dumb bitty that probably doesnt even know her butthole from a keyboard to win a game character look-alike contest, such a disgrace to gamers.We need a recount.</span><hr><span><blockquote>Copperhand wrote:<div>OMG is there ANYTHING that people on these forums DON'T complain about?</div><hr></blockquote></span>I wouldnt complain if you cancled your accounts and never posted on the forums again.<div></div><p>Message Edited by RedRockCandy! on <span class=date_text>08-16-2005</span> <span class=time_text>12:50 AM</span>

Tige
08-15-2005, 11:49 PM
<P>See the thing is that we didn't get to vote in the Final rounds. I would of thought <STRONG>Teresa Noreen</STRONG> would of won it all as she look the like Antonia from her other picture, not the curent one on now.</P> <P>How was the judging done? Are there any screen shots of them in the finals? Were the judges scoring on how one models and looks or really comparing them to Antonia??</P> <P> </P> <P> </P>

Gaige
08-16-2005, 12:11 AM
Obviously I should have won...

neria
08-16-2005, 12:19 AM
<P><FONT size=2>That picture is thoroughly embarrassing.</FONT></P> <P><FONT size=2>And yes, women <EM>do </EM>play this game. I sure as hell wouldn't follow a queen who dressed in S&M gear. </FONT></P> <P><FONT size=2>I also think Teresa Noreen is far more attractive, not to mention the most important part: looking like Antonia. Anna Wainscott looks extremely, well, normal. Really bad call, guys. And if anyone thinks that <EM>any </EM>woman who is even slightly attractive doesn't end up looking like a bombshell on the cover of a magazine, then they have no idea what goes into photo shoots and the editing of said photos.</FONT></P> <P><FONT size=2>By the way, I'm complaining because I'm sick and tired of the borderline (is it borderline any more?) [Removed for Content] to titillate 14 year old boys in computer games, and I'm sick of looking at characters who have severe back problems because of their humongous mutant breasts, and I'm sick of armor that acts like spandex as soon as it's placed on a female toon. Adult women have a lot more money than 14 year old boys. Wake up and smell it.</FONT></P>

Copperha
08-16-2005, 12:23 AM
Hahaha that was a good one! But no, I am afraid I won't be canceling my account (singular). See I actually like playing EQ2.

eqaddi
08-16-2005, 12:29 AM
Grats to the hottie for the win. I wonder why people are upset about gamer girls losing when they look nothing like Antonia. Just because you play the game and made a costume doesn't mean you actually look like her. The contest was open to anyone and is sponsored by a popular Men's magazine, men like to see hottie's and read the funnies on the can. Sorry to be so bold but that is the way it is. I commend everyone for trying though.

Jezekie
08-16-2005, 12:36 AM
<span><blockquote><hr>Gage-Mikel wrote:Obviously I should have won... <div></div><hr></blockquote>They all look like Cindy Crawford after nine coronas. Anyway what's mostly sad about that contest isnt't that they aren't gamers, it's that they are all plastic some more then others <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></span><div></div>

Vorlak
08-16-2005, 12:41 AM
<P>Agree should have been somebody who plays the game.</P> <P>Now show us her [Removed for Content]!</P>

Zilreed
08-16-2005, 12:57 AM
<DIV>How disappointing.  Can we at least see pictures of what the winner actually looks like in an Antonia costume?  :smileysad:</DIV>

Mywolveri
08-16-2005, 01:03 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR> </P></BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV>I feel it should have been someone who plays the game but I will support the decision.</DIV>

Eul
08-16-2005, 01:13 AM
'tis a sad day for kittens. <div></div>

Perzephone
08-16-2005, 01:16 AM
<DIV>BOOOOOOO! <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> I thought that TN had it in the bag! Who ever was on that judging board didn't think that "knowing the game" should of a prerequisite ! </DIV> <DIV>I have to agree on the winner posing and dressing in her pics in Vinyl clothing? </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I am very disapointed by this choice and winner. Teresa Noreen should of CLEARLY won this contest!</DIV> <DIV>Bad move on choosing a NON gamer for this! </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Plus I amglad this contest if over!</DIV>

Princess Butterc
08-16-2005, 01:34 AM
<P> I will update everyone on exactly what happened via my website, soon. <A href="http://www.tnoreen.com" target=_blank>www.tnoreen.com</A></P> <P>I want to thank everyone who supported me and if Fan Faire ends up in Atlanta, I will be there!!!</P> <P>Teresa Noreen</P>

SkySava
08-16-2005, 01:38 AM
<P>Argh, too bad we didn't get a girl that played. Now she's just eye candy as Cons instead of Eye Candy that I have something in common with <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </P> <P>That being said, I bet Stuff magazine made the final call. SOE got to choose the finalists and Stuff picked the one they wanted on their cover. At least we got our say in that far. Stuff doesn't give a rats butt that the model plays the game or not. Just that she the hottest and most experienced at modeling.</P>

RedRockCandy!
08-16-2005, 01:46 AM
<div></div><span><blockquote><hr>eqaddixx wrote:Grats to the hottie for the win. I wonder why people are upset about gamer girls losing when they look nothing like Antonia. Just because you play the game and made a costume doesn't mean you actually look like her. The contest was open to anyone and is sponsored by a popular Men's magazine, men like to see hottie's and read the funnies on the can. Sorry to be so bold but that is the way it is. I commend everyone for trying though. <div></div><hr></blockquote>The fact is most of us think that Teresa Noreen did in fact look like Antonia, more so than the fakie doll that won. I mean where in the game can Antonia be seen wearing the outfit that Anna has on in that picture? This is a really disapointing outcome. Mens magazines are usually garbage with their reader base being the average large browed fatty "who talks like dis all da time" and listens to 50 Cents or whatever crap these people like now, I just cant see these people interested in EQII. I was also given the impression that WE were going to decide, not SOE or some panel of [Removed for Content] mongering  judges or whoever did it. I dont want Anna to represent a game that I enjoy playing on a daily bases when she probably didnt even hear of it until she entered the contest. Teresa deserved the prize. Someone dropped the ball. I really dont want to see Anna put into any of the games art. </span><div></div>

RedRockCandy!
08-16-2005, 01:49 AM
<div></div><span><blockquote><hr>Princess Buttercup wrote:<div></div> <p> I will update everyone on exactly what happened via my website, soon. <a href="http://www.tnoreen.com" target="_blank">www.tnoreen.com</a></p> <p>I want to thank everyone who supported me and if Fan Faire ends up in Atlanta, I will be there!!!</p> <p>Teresa Noreen</p><hr></blockquote>Wow what a godess.</span><div></div>

Tige
08-16-2005, 01:52 AM
<P>The true winner in my eyes on who LOOKS like Antonia.... Teresa!!</P> <P><IMG src="http://www.tnoreen.com/images/AB1.jpg">  <IMG src="http://www.tnoreen.com/images/TNAB1.jpg"></P> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

RedRockCandy!
08-16-2005, 01:55 AM
<div></div>I swear to God I dont see how anyone can disagree. <div></div>

Shizzirri
08-16-2005, 02:07 AM
<DIV>You think with a stuff magazine photoshoot on the line (or whatever the prize was) that they would pick an actual EQ2 player and if they did would you buy that version of stuff magazine to look at pictures of that EQ2 player?  Does an EQ2player, who looks like Antonia, and is worthy of having their picture in Stuff actually play EQ2?</DIV>

Spiritunico
08-16-2005, 02:23 AM
<P>Congratulation to Anna! Yay!</P> <P>Now, are we going to choose a Lucan D'Lere<FONT size=2> </FONT>? <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>And will Anna be attending the fan fests in costume?</P>

Perzephone
08-16-2005, 02:53 AM
<DIV>Teresa should of won this! I am just disappoionted on who they chose over her and put her as 3rd place? [Removed for Content]? <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> she should of won this HANDS DOWN!</DIV>

Zilreed
08-16-2005, 02:58 AM
Maybe we shouldn't be judging on the outcome so much until we hear more about how the competition went exactly. :/

OperationsX
08-16-2005, 03:14 AM
<DIV>/yawn just another playboy cover contest</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Congrats Teresa, your the real winner cuz your a gamer and actually tried and prepared for the contest</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Anna who?</DIV>

darkangel1
08-16-2005, 03:59 AM
<P>Yeah T.N should have won. In a sense, she did win. She won in the eyes of so many EQ players.</P> <P>And I'm all for a contest to bring the men in the spotlight. I don't care if its an Overlord look a like, or a Barbarian, or whatever. There will requirements of course, must have 6 pack abs, tight behind, bulging muscles EVERYWHERE!!! Must look like Playgirl model material. (Only fair to us girls after the Playboy look a like models from this contest). We have visions of the perfectly built man, same as men have visions for perfectly built woman.</P> <P>But alas, sadly this contest will never be. Men don't like the tables being turned, and its mainly men behind this. But it would be great if they gave a little something like this to the female gamers.</P> <P> </P>

Zapo_Stormlight
08-16-2005, 04:35 AM
<DIV>I sooo agree Teresa Noreen should have won.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Dang it all I hope SOE hires her to be the true representive at the Live Events. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

Starshelle
08-16-2005, 04:36 AM
I too would like to see a Lucan D'Lere contest.  Let us women have fun browsing through pictures of hot-looking men models and voting on the ones we like! <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <div></div>

Sural_Argonus
08-16-2005, 06:31 AM
<DIV><BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Blackguard wrote:<BR> 3rd runner-up: <B>Carin Ashley</B> of Jupiter, FL<BR>2nd runner-up: <B>Teresa Noreen</B> of Duluth, GA<BR>1st runner-up: <B>Bridget Peters</B> of Las Vegas, NV<BR>Winner: <FONT color=#ffcc00><B>Anna Wainscoat</B></FONT> of Davis, CA<BR><BR>Congratulations to <A href="http://questforantonia.station.sony.com/en/contestant.vm?cId=569" target=_blank>Anna Wainscoat</A> for winning the Sony Online Entertainment/Stuff Magazine Quest for Antonia Model Search and becoming the new Antonia Bayle!<BR><BR>For more information on each of the Quest for Antonia finalists, visit the <A href="http://questforantonia.station.sony.com/en/finalists.vm" target=_blank>Quest for Antonia website</A>.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV>I demand a recount!!!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><BR> </DIV>

Faerieinme
08-16-2005, 06:58 AM
<P><FONT face=Garamond size=3>Congrats to the local girl!!</FONT></P> <P><FONT size=3>I'm a little farther north from you, near Yuba City. </FONT></P>

Sorvani
08-16-2005, 07:02 AM
TN is a good looking model. player or not has nothing to do with it. but truely TN is not a better looking model than the winner. the winner once in outfit will look much more like AB then TN does. for what it's worth TN did have my vote, but honestly folks this was a MODELING contract. the top model will win, and IMO did. let me repeat it has zip to do with the game. and i hope the send the winner off to GenCon so i can get some pictures. <span>:smileyvery-happy:</span> i never fail to take a few shots of the sony booth babe. <div></div>

Rene
08-16-2005, 07:18 AM
<P>This is so galling to me.. There are so many more things to give a darn (expletive not edited by faarbot) about now than this stupid contest.  Who Cares?  Well.. from the start I admired the effort that TN went to in her pictures.  After seeing this, I was bummed ( by previous posts ) that she placed third..  After seeing that she posted on this thread, I went back and read her previous posts and now I see it as something more.  I like Sony...I own quite a few pieces of Sony electronics.. I have a Sony Rewards Credit Card.. I have three accounts on their new game.. and played their older one from before they were boss, overall I have been very pleased at the results of my patronage.  Lately; however, some odd and unpopular decisions have been made regarding EQ2.  This seems to be so piddling and unrelated but... to me speaks of lack of customer awareness.  Now.. we are not all revenge of the nerds people, but some of us are, and frankly not many of us have a woman runnin around the house that makes the neighbor kids dream about being a grown up.  Some do.. not all.  SOE had an opportuinity to unnerdify (word? prob not) online games, in a partnership with a magazine that caters to men.  They had a chance to have a Gamer.. who is also very attractive, decided to become an interactive member of the online community, is a former member of the armed forces and obviosly cares about this contest.  They passed that up.. That just seems like a dumb business move.  Stuff Magazine pulling the strings?  Please... if they got into an arrangement with a puffed up celebrity skin rag where they could be pushed around, someone should be fired.  To Me, this is just symptomatic of leadership not being on the ball.   So... Ok.. I just re-read this and it is a rambling mess.</P> <P>I guess my point was, I think SOE had a great opportuinity to get someone who looked the part, at least knows the game a little.. and has shown themselves to be both personable and supportive of the game as a whole.  Opportuinity lost.  This was not just a modeling thing.  It IS a PR thing.  Getting the "hottest" ( and I would debate that one) person doesn't make the best Public Relations.</P>

Gridpoet
08-16-2005, 08:21 AM
<P>i guess the thing that galls me the most is that the whole voting ordeal was a sham...why bother having us vote if you're just going to pick who YOU wanted in the first place...you dont need to placate us, were not that infantile...</P> <P>but if you do ALLOW us to vote at least make it mean something...TN was the clear leader and my first choice.</P> <P>just another ridiculous and transparent PR stunt.</P> <P> </P>

RedRockCandy!
08-16-2005, 08:21 AM
<div></div><span><blockquote><hr>Sorvani wrote:TN is a good looking model. player or not has nothing to do with it. but truely TN is not a better looking model than the winner. the winner once in outfit will look much more like AB then TN does. for what it's worth TN did have my vote, but honestly folks this was a MODELING contract. the top model will win, and IMO did. let me repeat it has zip to do with the game. and i hope the send the winner off to GenCon so i can get some pictures. <span>:smileyvery-happy:</span> i never fail to take a few shots of the sony booth babe. <div></div><hr></blockquote>It SHOULD have everything to do with the game, after all they are advertising on the launch pad and website that a model is needed to portray a character from in game.  And Teresa looks more like Antonia, to me, than whats-her-nuts.</span><div></div>

RedRockCandy!
08-16-2005, 08:23 AM
<div></div><div></div><span><blockquote><hr>Gridpoet wrote:<p>i guess the thing that galls me the most is that the whole voting ordeal was a sham...why bother having us vote if you're just going to pick who YOU wanted in the first place...you dont need to placate us, were not that infantile...</p> <p>but if you do ALLOW us to vote at least make it mean something...TN was the clear leader and my first choice.</p> <p>just another ridiculous and transparent PR stunt.</p> <div></div><hr></blockquote></span>[expletive ninja'd by Faarbot] straight! I really hope SOE thinks long and hard about this latest screw up and makes sure to not make another one like it. <div></div><p>Message Edited by RedRockCandy! on <span class=date_text>08-16-2005</span> <span class=time_text>12:57 AM</span>

caesa
08-16-2005, 09:45 AM
<P>The winner was not determined on anything but which one gave the best...................and sucked the most.........................</P> <P>thats the way it always works.</P>

RedRockCandy!
08-16-2005, 10:02 AM
<div></div>Well what the diddly hell do I know? I still think Kirstie Alley is hot. <div></div>

DaenaeRavenso
08-16-2005, 10:44 AM
<P>I am disappointed that Teresa didn't win as well but it doesn't surprise me.  Looking at the pics of the 5 finalists, it's obvious why they were chosen ( and it wasn't for their likeness to AB).  There is no way the first runner up looks anything more like AB than Teresa does.  It would have been nice to have an actual gamer represent one of the main characters in the game.  </P> <P>It doesn't matter really, Teresa, your still the Queen to most of us gamers.  Good luck in your future career.  I hope this experience opens up many doors of opportunity for you in the near future.  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P> </P> <P>Dae</P>

Cheshirepezk
08-16-2005, 12:34 PM
<P><FONT face=Verdana color=#0099ff>I don't know why people are going off so much about TN, she's pretty and looked the part in a way when makeup and a costume was added, but not without it.</FONT></P> <P><FONT face=Verdana color=#0099ff>The person I thought should win, didn't even make it to the finalists.. If you look at all the pictures of Antonia Bayle, shes not exactly the skinniest looking thing.. and out of the finalists, anna was the best match imo, thats who i ended up voting for.</FONT></P> <P><FONT face=Verdana color=#0099ff>People flame and 1 star everyone thats not a TN fan or whatever, no one said she wasn't pretty... just not Antonia Bayle.  people just need to stop taking everything so personally.. it's nothing against her as an individual or a player or any of that.. </FONT></P> <P><FONT face=Verdana color=#0099ff>Just because someone plays or says a few answers doesn't mean they couldnt have just as easily gotten the info from a friend or something that actually does (NOT saying this was the case, but the possibilty is still there nonethless)</FONT></P> <P><FONT face=Verdana color=#0099ff>This is Stuff Magazine, no one should've expected a "real" female eq2 player to win.. come on, look at the majority of the player base, the men outnumber the women 10 to 1.. hell the odds might even be higher than that.  There are some really beautiful female players out there.  But when you look at the marketing and everything, it was pretty much a given a model was going to win...  you can pretend its not all you want.... this is called reality sad to say.</FONT></P> <P><FONT face=Verdana color=#0099ff>It had to have been a huge honor for all the women that participated to even get to the finals had to have been amazing.</FONT></P> <P><FONT face=Verdana color=#0099ff>Grats to the winner Anna and to TN and everyone that participated, I'm sure you had a great time.  To TN-- the player base as a whole loves that you actually played, i will say that your description was very nicely composed and your costume turned out terrific...</FONT></P> <P><FONT face=Verdana color=#0099ff>ok im ready for my flames now, go ahead idc...</FONT></P> <P> </P>

Errie_Tholluxe
08-16-2005, 12:39 PM
<span><blockquote><hr>Cheshirepezkat wrote: <p><font color="#0099ff" face="Verdana">ok im ready for my flames now, go ahead idc...</font></p> <div></div><hr></blockquote>Phht your entitled to your opinion same as them. I think Ter shoulda got it to, but thats my opinion.</span><div></div>

Zilreed
08-16-2005, 02:37 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Cheshirepezkat wrote:<BR> <P><FONT face=Verdana color=#0099ff>I don't know why people are going off so much about TN, she's pretty and looked the part in a way when makeup and a costume was added, but not without it.</FONT></P> <P><FONT face=Verdana color=#0099ff>The person I thought should win, didn't even make it to the finalists.. If you look at all the pictures of Antonia Bayle, shes not exactly the skinniest looking thing.. and out of the finalists, anna was the best match imo, thats who i ended up voting for.</FONT></P> <P><FONT face=Verdana color=#0099ff>People flame and 1 star everyone thats not a TN fan or whatever, no one said she wasn't pretty... just not Antonia Bayle.  people just need to stop taking everything so personally.. it's nothing against her as an individual or a player or any of that.. </FONT></P> <P><FONT face=Verdana color=#0099ff>Just because someone plays or says a few answers doesn't mean they couldnt have just as easily gotten the info from a friend or something that actually does (NOT saying this was the case, but the possibilty is still there nonethless)</FONT></P> <P><FONT face=Verdana color=#0099ff>This is Stuff Magazine, no one should've expected a "real" female eq2 player to win.. come on, look at the majority of the player base, the men outnumber the women 10 to 1.. hell the odds might even be higher than that.  There are some really beautiful female players out there.  But when you look at the marketing and everything, it was pretty much a given a model was going to win...  you can pretend its not all you want.... this is called reality sad to say.</FONT></P> <P><FONT face=Verdana color=#0099ff>It had to have been a huge honor for all the women that participated to even get to the finals had to have been amazing.</FONT></P> <P><FONT face=Verdana color=#0099ff>Grats to the winner Anna and to TN and everyone that participated, I'm sure you had a great time.  To TN-- the player base as a whole loves that you actually played, i will say that your description was very nicely composed and your costume turned out terrific...</FONT></P> <P><FONT face=Verdana color=#0099ff>ok im ready for my flames now, go ahead idc...</FONT></P> <P> </P> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>The thing is, TN is both a model and a gamer.  I've looked through her portfolios on some of her modeling sites and I thought, especially in her eyes, that she could pull off portraying Antonia Bayle.  </P> <P>I am personally fine with the decision that the judges made, but I would like to hear how the competition exactly went and why they chose Anna.  I'd also like to see the winner in an Antonia Bayle costume.  Maybe photos of the competition itself.</P> <P> </P> <P>Also, the reason why some people that maybe got the highest votes were not chosen as finalists was because, from what Theresa mentioned in another thread, that there was a procedure going on after the voting.  She mentioned that they had to send videos and I guess once SoE received whatever they needed for the procedure, they chose the finalists from them.  I could be wrong though but that was what I thought I read somewhere.    </P><p>Message Edited by Zilreed on <span class=date_text>08-16-2005</span> <span class=time_text>06:41 AM</span>

Zilreed
08-16-2005, 02:48 PM
According to this interview, Anna actually does play EQ2:  <A href="http://www.gamecloud.com/article.php?article_id=1009" target=_blank>http://www.gamecloud.com/article.php?article_id=1009</A> and <A href="http://www.sacticket.com/gamers/story/13340192p-14182126c.html" target=_blank>http://www.sacticket.com/gamers/story/13340192p-14182126c.html</A><p>Message Edited by Zilreed on <span class=date_text>08-16-2005</span> <span class=time_text>06:52 AM</span>

Tibbwini
08-16-2005, 02:58 PM
<div></div>There's only one way to settle this once and for all. Theresa and Anna, in costume, at FanFaire, mudwrestling in a paddling pool full of custard. Faarwolf can referree, and the winner will go on to fight the winner of the "Guard Rumble" (Black vs Moor).<strike> then in an ironic twist we give the prize to Smedley anyway</strike> <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <div></div><p>Message Edited by Tibbwini on <span class=date_text>08-16-2005</span> <span class=time_text>03:59 AM</span>

Straylig
08-16-2005, 05:04 PM
<DIV>Nice hooters but <FONT size=2>Teresa Noreen was a much MUCH better choice.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>Oh well...</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>I wonder if SoE will do a 'Pick the next Trinity' contest for all the MxO players now...heh.</FONT></DIV>

Rene
08-16-2005, 06:19 PM
<DIV>I read the article where Every finalist said they played EQ2, and I only believed one.  That is part of why I take it personally.  We are not a community of simpletons.. and I dont like having smoke blown up my bum, unless I request it, and then I usually have to pay extra.</DIV>

MaltanisKolba
08-16-2005, 06:41 PM
<P>Personally I always thought that AB was based on Rebecca Romijn.  This is most evident on the retail box image of her.</P> <P>Again,  if you dont think Stuff had final say your insane.  Magizine comes up with idea "Men play games, EQ2 is pretty popular, lets collaborate."  But ultimatly they want to get mainstream people to buy,  thus a hot model regardless of what EQ2 fanboys want.</P> <P>Lastly,   no one can judge until they see pics of the competiton and all the finalists in the get up (if that will happen who knows).  But,   Cant judge the winner until you see her in the costume...You might like it</P> <p>Message Edited by MaltanisKolbair on <span class=date_text>08-16-2005</span> <span class=time_text>07:42 AM</span>

Huna
08-16-2005, 06:43 PM
<span><blockquote><hr>Cheshirepezkat wrote:<p><font color="#0099ff" face="Verdana">I don't know why people are going off so much about TN, she's pretty and looked the part in a way when makeup and a costume was added, but not without it.</font></p> <p><font color="#0099ff" face="Verdana">The person I thought should win, didn't even make it to the finalists.. If you look at all the pictures of Antonia Bayle, shes not exactly the skinniest looking thing.. and out of the finalists, anna was the best match imo, thats who i ended up voting for.</font></p> <p><font color="#0099ff" face="Verdana">People flame and 1 star everyone thats not a TN fan or whatever, no one said she wasn't pretty... just not Antonia Bayle.  people just need to stop taking everything so personally.. it's nothing against her as an individual or a player or any of that.. </font></p> <p><font color="#0099ff" face="Verdana">Just because someone plays or says a few answers doesn't mean they couldnt have just as easily gotten the info from a friend or something that actually does (NOT saying this was the case, but the possibilty is still there nonethless)</font></p> <p><font color="#0099ff" face="Verdana">This is Stuff Magazine, no one should've expected a "real" female eq2 player to win.. come on, look at the majority of the player base, the men outnumber the women 10 to 1.. hell the odds might even be higher than that.  There are some really beautiful female players out there.  But when you look at the marketing and everything, it was pretty much a given a model was going to win...  you can pretend its not all you want.... this is called reality sad to say.</font></p> <p><font color="#0099ff" face="Verdana">It had to have been a huge honor for all the women that participated to even get to the finals had to have been amazing.</font></p> <p><font color="#0099ff" face="Verdana">Grats to the winner Anna and to TN and everyone that participated, I'm sure you had a great time.  To TN-- the player base as a whole loves that you actually played, i will say that your description was very nicely composed and your costume turned out terrific...</font></p> <p><font color="#0099ff" face="Verdana">ok im ready for my flames now, go ahead idc...</font> </p> <hr></blockquote> I agree with you on this one.  I think anna looks more like AB then teresa minus the costume.  And I'm sure she'll look more like AB when she is in costume.  Now, I do applaud Teresa for the effort in the costume, and the profile, etc... but in all honesty Anna looks more like AB, so she won.  Don't get me wrong, Teresa is beautiful, and seems like a really cool person, but this was a looks competition, more specifically an look-alike competition. I also have a question, how long does it take you to get to level 6 and level 4?  I'm not saying that Teresa is lying about playing the game, I'm just wondering when she started playing?  Was she playing before the contest, or did she enter after the competition started?  A little research leads me to believe she started after the competition started.  The competition started around </span>May 17, and she named two characters in one of her interviews, one was started on May 24, and the other on July 20.  So how is she any different than the other contestants that most likely started a character after they entered the competition?  Most people here wanted a "player" to win, but she only started playing after the competition started, so in my mind she wasn't really a player.  I think it was a great strategy she had, and again Teresa seems to be really cool and HOT. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  Still, the woman that looked the most like AB to me won, and I'm happy for her. <span></span><div></div>

Leppa
08-16-2005, 08:06 PM
<DIV>I think TN did a great job and should have won for going the extra mile for the contest.  However, I don't think she looked the most like Antonia even though she has a HOT HOT body!  We had a poll on our site and the winner actually won our contest with 56% of the vote.  Great job TN!.. I'm jealous of your hubby!!  <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I think the winner looked the most like Antonia and I can't wait to see her in the outfit!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://www.wecometoplay.com/gallery/data/500/antonia_bayle.jpg">  <IMG src="http://images.station.sony.com/qfa/000/000/002/291.jpg"></DIV>

Lersta
08-16-2005, 08:09 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Copperhand wrote:<BR> <DIV>OMG is there ANYTHING that people on these forums DON'T complain about? </DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Dont think so, i think we have complained about everything now :smileyvery-happy:</P> <P> </P> <P>However if u find out we missed something plz let us know so we can start complaining about it :smileytongue:</P>

Sural_Argonus
08-16-2005, 08:26 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Lerstari wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Copperhand wrote:<BR> <DIV>OMG is there ANYTHING that people on these forums DON'T complain about? </DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Dont think so, i think we have complained about everything now :smileyvery-happy:</P> <P> </P> <P>However if u find out we missed something plz let us know so we can start complaining about it :smileytongue:</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Actually...there are some things that we haven't tried complaining about...But they'd get this or any thread locked in a heartbeat.  Politics...religeon...etc.  [Removed for Content]</P> <P> </P> <P>But I think we've pretty much covered every non-taboo topic so far.<BR></P>

LoofLirpa
08-17-2005, 12:17 AM
ummm, nice boobies.  Gratz!

Seltha-Larren
08-17-2005, 02:28 AM
<P>fair enough</P> <P>still, gratz Anna</P> <P> </P><p>Message Edited by Seltha on <span class=date_text>08-17-2005</span> <span class=time_text>11:27 AM</span>

Faarwolf
08-17-2005, 03:43 AM
<DIV>Seltha, that's not necessary at all.</DIV>

Perzephone
08-17-2005, 04:05 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Faarwolf wrote:<BR> <DIV>Seltha, that's not necessary at all.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Yah I agree what Faarwolf said. that was a low blow there.

Yukon Sam
08-17-2005, 04:32 AM
1. Anna looks like Antonia. Does she look more like Antonia than the other contestants? Judgement call. 2. Anybody with the guts to enter the contest is a winner in my book. 3. If she says she plays the game, I'm willing to take her word for it, unless somebody has better evidence to the contrary than unsupported innuendos. 4. Yes, professional and semi-professional models sometimes play roleplaying games. Some are quite good at it. I remember another photo contest in another game where a woman's feelings were seriously hurt because nobody believed that anybody who looked as fantastic as she did could be taken seriously as a gamer. 5. People who don't care about other people's feelings are a serious waste of oxygen. 6. There is no 6. <div></div>

Perilous Wi
08-17-2005, 04:34 AM
<DIV>TN definitely looks more like Antonia than the chick they picked.  Very disappointed with the results. </DIV>

Banshye
08-17-2005, 10:30 AM
<DIV>The only issue I take are with those saying TN didn't have the looks to make the grade. She is a lovely woman - as they all were - and if she were walking down my street, I'd be bumping into street-signs and tripping over little old ladies just to get a second look... so would most of my neighbors. It'd probably be a regular traffic jam out there.</DIV>

Eorendil
08-17-2005, 04:52 PM
Congrats to the winner!!! While my wife and I were pulling for TN all the way I think Anna was our second choice.  TN, I think looks every bit Antonia Bayle but so could Anna with a bit of well applied makeup.  Despite what anyone might say I think TN had a deeper purpose to competing but it's all water under the bridge.  Good luck Anna. <div></div>

Princess Butterc
08-17-2005, 06:11 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Tibbwini wrote:<BR> There's only one way to settle this once and for all.<BR><BR>Theresa and Anna, in costume, at FanFaire, mudwrestling in a paddling pool full of custard. Faarwolf can referree, and the winner will go on to fight the winner of the "Guard Rumble" (Black vs Moor).<STRIKE><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>then in an ironic twist we give the prize to Smedley anyway</STRIKE> <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR> <P>Message Edited by Tibbwini on <SPAN class=date_text>08-16-2005</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>03:59 AM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>LOL...I have to say that is very unlike Antonia in character <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> But if it did happen it would be interesting for sure. Maybe it would allow me to get some of my frustration out...so SOE, when are you gonna set that one up? Just kiddin'!!!

Princess Butterc
08-17-2005, 06:41 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE><SPAN> <BLOCKQUOTE>I agree with you on this one.  I think anna looks more like AB then teresa minus the costume.  And I'm sure she'll look more like AB when she is in costume.  Now, I do applaud Teresa for the effort in the costume, and the profile, etc... but in all honesty Anna looks more like AB, so she won.  Don't get me wrong, Teresa is beautiful, and seems like a really cool person, but this was a looks competition, more specifically an look-alike competition.<BR><BR>I also have a question, how long does it take you to get to level 6 and level 4?  I'm not saying that Teresa is lying about playing the game, I'm just wondering when she started playing?  Was she playing before the contest, or did she enter after the competition started?  A little research leads me to believe she started after the competition started.  The competition started around </SPAN>May 17, and she named two characters in one of her interviews, one was started on May 24, and the other on July 20.  So how is she any different than the other contestants that most likely started a character after they entered the competition?  <BR><BR>Most people here wanted a "player" to win, but she only started playing after the competition started, so in my mind she wasn't really a player.  I think it was a great strategy she had, and again Teresa seems to be really cool and HOT. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  Still, the woman that looked the most like AB to me won, and I'm happy for her.<BR><SPAN><BR></SPAN></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>I would like to say that no, I didn't start playing Everquest 2 before the contest. As I am not a liar and never will be. Here is the truth of the matter. I found out about the contest from a friend Chris at dashpc.com and he told me I looked just like Antonia and should enter the contest. As I have been a fantasy addict for many years I looked into the game and started playing (after costly upgrades to my computer that is). To set the record straight,  D&D is a paper RPG game and games like EverQuest 2 are similiar in many ways, just because I just started playing THIS game doesn't mean I am not worthy of being called a "gamer". I have been playing RPGs since 1992... After I read and learned more about Antonia and realized a PMOY was in first place, I had to enter. I felt someone who loved RPGs and someone who could relate to people with the same interests should be in the contest. So that the person who won could be more than just a pretty face. I really was concerned that a girl would win that didn't truely care about the fan base and wouldn't understand WHY they play the game. I can still recall our interviews at game cloud and to my knowledge I am the only one who even mentioned the fans in my interview, guess that shows you where my thoughs were...http://www.gamecloud.com/article.php?article_id=994</P> <P>It is fine that you think Anna looked more like Antonia, everyone is entitiled to their opinion. When I receive the photos from the contest, I will post them.</P> <P>Teresa Noreen</P> <P><BR> </P>

Jonath
08-17-2005, 07:24 PM
<DIV>What a complete waste of time and money.  This isn't the kind of thing that's going to attract more players if they're not going to pick a winner that plays and give a [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot] about the fans.  The guys in the PR department just wanted to get paid to hang out with models and stare at their breasts.  Well, congratulations, PR guys... what a boondoggle.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Money that would have been better spent hiring a few more CSRs that actually speak English instead went to finance this pointless garbage.</DIV><p>Message Edited by Jonathyn on <span class=date_text>08-17-2005</span> <span class=time_text>09:30 AM</span>

Princess Butterc
08-17-2005, 07:36 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Jonathyn wrote:<BR> <DIV>What a complete waste of time and money.  This isn't the kind of thing that's going to attract more players if they're not going to pick a winner that plays and give a [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot] about the fans.  The guys in the PR department just wanted to get paid to hang out with models and stare at their breasts.  Well, congratulations, PR guys... what a boondoggle.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Money that would have been better spent hiring a few more CSRs that actually speak English instead went to finance this pointless garbage.</DIV> <P>Message Edited by Jonathyn on <SPAN class=date_text>08-17-2005</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>09:30 AM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Just an FYI but a good portion of the PR people for SOE that I met are females...and no they are not lesbians, at least not that I know of anyway! Just thought you might like to know.

MaltanisKolba
08-17-2005, 07:53 PM
<DIV>"I would like to say that no, I didn't start playing Everquest 2 before the contest."</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Hope that quiets people down a bit....It was a pure modeling competiton,   playing EQ2 had nothing to do with it.  Blame EQ2 if you want for signing up with Stuff,  but nothing but aspiring models/already models were going to win THEIR (Stuff's)contest.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Again, cant wait for the photos of the winner in the costume.  I'm sure she will make it look good.</DIV><p>Message Edited by MaltanisKolbair on <span class=date_text>08-17-2005</span> <span class=time_text>08:54 AM</span>

Thelah
08-17-2005, 09:27 PM
<P>What happened to that Camila woman who was a playmate?  When I first heard about the contest she was in first place, how come she wasn't a finalist?  </P> <P>Is her performance on the casting couch not up to par?</P>

RedRockCandy!
08-17-2005, 10:28 PM
<div></div>After all is said and done I just have to say I would be Teresa's slave and would be willing to fly from Knoxville to wherever she is just to serve her. Also, a quest for Lucan contest could not be taken seriously, it would have to be for comical entertainment only. Men arent as reserved as women and most of us arent ashamed to get in front of a camera, it doesnt matter if a man is 300 pounds and doesnt look anything like Lucan, he WILL take a picutre of himself posing in a suit of armor, thats just how men are. So a Lucan contest would be fun but I wouldnt suggest serious prizes, maybe something like a forum title or in game item since a contest like that would have to be just for fun and would probably boil down to "who made us laugh more by being the biggest idiot", a contest I could win hands down. <div></div>

OperationsX
08-17-2005, 11:35 PM
<DIV>Ok lets compare here:</DIV> <DIV><BR> </DIV> <DIV>Teresa:</DIV> <UL> <LI>Entered the contest and was in finalists viewing 2 weeks after it was announced</LI> <LI>Actually knews who Antonia Bayle before this contest</LI> <LI>Dressed up like Antonia Bayle</LI> <LI>Imitated Antonia Bayle's attitude and poses</LI> <LI>Part time model</LI> <LI>Part time casual gamer</LI> <LI>Actually knows how to post here, and voiced her opinion</LI> <LI>Her reasons to vote for her was 2 paragraphs long and detailed</LI> <LI>She looks ALOT like Antonia Bayle</LI></UL> <P>Anna:</P> <UL> <LI>Entered the contest rather late it seems and was in finalist viewing a 1.5 months + after it was announced</LI> <LI>Only knows who Antonia Bayle is BECAUSE of this contest</LI> <LI>Did not dress up like Antonia Bayle</LI> <LI>Did not imitate any or display any of her characteristics and attitude / poses</LI> <LI>Full time model</LI> <LI>'Claims' she's a gamer with no character/server proof (alot did that)</LI> <LI>Got posts?</LI> <LI>Her reason for voting for her was an amazing sentence long</LI> <LI>She kinda looks like Antonia, but did nothing to prove it like TN, yah that skimpy sexy string pose is great for Playboy hun tho...</LI></UL> <P>So uhm....congrats Anna and Anna voters I guess.....I still don't see why she shoulda won though, do you?</P> <P><SPAN class=time_text></SPAN> </P><p>Message Edited by OperationsX on <span class=date_text>08-17-2005</span> <span class=time_text>12:37 PM</span>

KnightOfTheWo
08-17-2005, 11:54 PM
Regardless of who <b>should </b>have won (in my opinion it was Teresa) we now have a winner and we'll have to accept that. Teresa should know that many of us supported her and voted for her in the contest. If it were up to the EQ2 community she would have won, but unfortunately it was not. That's life and all that. <span>:robothappy:</span> Anyway, best of luck Teresa... <div></div>

Princess Butterc
08-18-2005, 12:30 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Thelahun wrote:<BR> <P>What happened to that Camila woman who was a playmate?  When I first heard about the contest she was in first place, how come she wasn't a finalist?  </P> <P>Is her performance on the casting couch not up to par?</P> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>From what I heard...she had other time commitment that would have conflicted with the role.

Drakkenra
08-18-2005, 01:03 AM
<DIV>So after all this time how is P.Buttercups lvl 4 and 6 chars? You playing one more than the other and what</DIV> <DIV>classes did you decide for both at lvl 10?</DIV>

Princess Butterc
08-18-2005, 01:13 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Drakkenrahl wrote:<BR> <DIV>So after all this time how is P.Buttercups lvl 4 and 6 chars? You playing one more than the other and what</DIV> <DIV>classes did you decide for both at lvl 10?</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>My characters are mad at me because I have been too busy to lvl them up.  I haven't decided if I am going to continue playing EQ2 since I have some concerns I have yet to voice from the contest. Don't get me wrong, I love gaming but this contest experience has left me with some questions I need answered before I can continue...</P> <P>Teresa Noreen</P>

Perzephone
08-18-2005, 01:53 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Princess Buttercup wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Drakkenrahl wrote:<BR> <DIV>So after all this time how is P.Buttercups lvl 4 and 6 chars? You playing one more than the other and what</DIV> <DIV>classes did you decide for both at lvl 10?</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>My characters are mad at me because I have been too busy to lvl them up.  I haven't decided if I am going to continue playing EQ2 since I have some concerns I have yet to voice from the contest. Don't get me wrong, I love gaming but this contest experience has left me with some questions I need answered before I can continue...</P> <P>Teresa Noreen</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Like what kinds of issues? besides the ones that are on the forums about teh contest saying you should of won hands down and blah blah. : Since I did enter the contest when it first started, unfortunately my 3. something rating plumeted down so hard and fast. giving the other entrants higher scores that either A. Didn't EVEN look anywhere close to AB. or B they had huge [Removed for Content] and were practically naked in there pics!  This voting style they had was a Hot or Not  rating and I found that really unfair, I am pretty sure Teresa felt that way to. Since there were other girls who did dress up (besides her and me) to look the part, one even did the flame in her hand. </P> <P>I know that Teresa is a more than a bit fustrated at the whole outcome of the final parts of the contest. I wouldn't be surprised if it was all more about modeling and how much bigger whos [Removed for Content] where!</P> <P>Anyway, Teresa You ARE our Queen of Qeynos! I wish that they had US the community to choose the winner of the final 5. Plus who were the panel of judges? where they all from The magazine? or was it split 50/50 of Stuff and SoE judges? </P> <P>I saw a pic of Anna in the cape and scepter that the Armor guys made for the costume. She was standing by the huge poster thingy poolside. : There was some resembelance of AB, but <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> it should of been you teresa.</P>

Banshye
08-18-2005, 02:03 AM
<DIV> I wouldn't be surprised if it was all more about modeling and how much bigger whos [Removed for Content] where!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I'm not a mathematician, but based upon the photos I've seen, and not meaning to be lewd - Teresa didn't lose based on this criteria.</DIV>

Perzephone
08-18-2005, 02:15 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Banshye wrote:<BR> <DIV> I wouldn't be surprised if it was all more about modeling and how much bigger whos [Removed for Content] where!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I'm not a mathematician, but based upon the photos I've seen, and not meaning to be lewd - Teresa didn't lose based on this criteria.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>I was just saying in genreal, that they were all boobie mezzed and most likely drunk! who knows /shrug I know that She didn't lose on this but ......yah :  </P>

Banshye
08-18-2005, 02:44 AM
<P>According to an article here: <A href="http://www2.gameaxis.com/news/view.gax?id=5461" target=_blank>http://www2.gameaxis.com/news/view.gax?id=5461</A> Stuff magazine supplied the judges. </P> <P>They have a circulation of about 1.3million -- they took Anna for reasons I can only speculate on. I guess they thought she'd sell more magazines then TN - irreguardless of what the actual eq2 playerbase thought.</P> <P>Too bad - a lost opportunity for SOE in my opinion.</P>

RedRockCandy!
08-18-2005, 05:45 AM
<div></div>Dont buy Stuff magazine. <div></div>

MaltanisKolba
08-18-2005, 07:24 PM
lol I'm sorry I find it funny that PB was started after the contest was announced,  didnt lvl at all during the time, and now is not playing and Doubtful she will.  Yet,  she is still largely backed just cause she was perceived as a "gamer".... Please.

Banshye
08-18-2005, 07:39 PM
<DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> MaltanisKolbair wrote:<BR>lol I'm sorry I find it funny that PB was started after the contest was announced,  didnt lvl at all during the time, and now is not playing and Doubtful she will.  Yet,  she is still largely backed just cause she was perceived as a "gamer".... Please. <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>For my part, this isn't the reason I supported her. I thought she went much farther then the other contestants with her "canidacy". ie. her website, her costuming and antonia-like photos, her participation here, etc etc. That's what sold me. And not to mention, she does look a good bit like the character model.</DIV>

ZThoth
08-18-2005, 08:39 PM
<DIV>I think 2 things might have played a big role in how the judges picked Anna over Teresa:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <OL> <LI>Teresa is married, Anna is not.</LI> <LI>Accent.  Correct me if I'm stereotyping, but Teresa is from Georgia (southern accent) whereas Anna is from California (no accent).</LI></OL> <P>My highest vote was for Teresa, I never even had Anna in my top 10 votes....I guess we selected the pool for Stuff to pick from.  Sorry you didn't win Teresa, hopefully this contest gives you more exposure and advertising that leads to something much better than what Stuff offered.</P>

Princess Butterc
08-18-2005, 09:49 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> ZThoth wrote:<BR> <DIV>I think 2 things might have played a big role in how the judges picked Anna over Teresa:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <OL> <LI>Teresa is married, Anna is not.</LI> <LI>Accent.  Correct me if I'm stereotyping, but Teresa is from Georgia (southern accent) whereas Anna is from California (no accent).</LI></OL> <P>My highest vote was for Teresa, I never even had Anna in my top 10 votes....I guess we selected the pool for Stuff to pick from.  Sorry you didn't win Teresa, hopefully this contest gives you more exposure and advertising that leads to something much better than what Stuff offered.</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Just an FYI but I am originally from WA State so I don't have a southern accent...once I get some solid info for everyone I will be updating my website with the details of the competition.

Vorlak
08-18-2005, 11:38 PM
<P>I dont recal Firiona being a gamer before she started working for Verant as the model for Firiona at the Fan Fairs and what not.</P> <P>Actully the story is something more like.<BR>Sombody called her and asked if she did the modling work latly for a game coming out, when she found out about it she contacted verant. Next thing you know she has a job as a model with no prior experiance to gaming.</P> <P>So suck it up, its all eye candy - you have to figure who are they trying to market to (Gamers or Males & Bi Females) - do you think they really care what EQ or AB is? Nah, they just want to see skin and wish they could have. Sure TN should have won but hell runner up isnt bad with the amount of people that tried.</P> <P>Anyways if shes anything like Firiona, i will be watching the headlines when she goes to vegas :p</P> <P><BR> </P> <P><BR> </P>

Perzephone
08-18-2005, 11:42 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Princess Buttercup wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> ZThoth wrote:<BR> <DIV>I think 2 things might have played a big role in how the judges picked Anna over Teresa:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <OL> <LI>Teresa is married, Anna is not.</LI> <LI>Accent.  Correct me if I'm stereotyping, but Teresa is from Georgia (southern accent) whereas Anna is from California (no accent).</LI></OL> <P>My highest vote was for Teresa, I never even had Anna in my top 10 votes....I guess we selected the pool for Stuff to pick from.  Sorry you didn't win Teresa, hopefully this contest gives you more exposure and advertising that leads to something much better than what Stuff offered.</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Just an FYI but I am originally from WA State so I don't have a southern accent...once I get some solid info for everyone I will be updating my website with the details of the competition. <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>I was just going to point that out too <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> lol She is a fellow WAshingtonian <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> How ca she have an accent? As TN stated she isn't originally from Georgia <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> she just lives there. Also what does being married have to do with winning? They never ever stated that in the rules.

Zilreed
08-18-2005, 11:47 PM
<DIV>You can't automatically think someone has a southern accent just because they live or are from a southern state.  You would have to meet them in person first before making any judgement like that.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Also, I happen to be from Georgia originally as well, but I've moved around so much that my accent is nothing like what you would expect. </DIV>

OperationsX
08-19-2005, 02:42 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Princess Buttercup wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Drakkenrahl wrote:<BR> <DIV>So after all this time how is P.Buttercups lvl 4 and 6 chars? You playing one more than the other and what</DIV> <DIV>classes did you decide for both at lvl 10?</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>My characters are mad at me because I have been too busy to lvl them up.  I haven't decided if I am going to continue playing EQ2 since I have some concerns I have yet to voice from the contest. Don't get me wrong, I love gaming but this contest experience has left me with some questions I need answered before I can continue...</P> <P>Teresa Noreen</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Awww I hope this hasn't gotten you too down, Almost everyone thinks you shoulda won, especially over Anna. You are our Queen Antonia Bayle! And I'm sure because of this you got alot of community attention, something good will come your way again, keep playing away!! (Besides its the ultimate guy fantasy...HAWT Chica that plays the same game I do and looks like Queen Antonia *Droool* :smileyvery-happy: )

ZThoth
08-19-2005, 03:12 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>I was just going to point that out too <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> lol She is a fellow WAshingtonian <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> How ca she have an accent? As TN stated she isn't originally from Georgia <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> she just lives there. Also what does being married have to do with winning? They never ever stated that in the rules. <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>Being married has alot to do with it.  Marketing a single, available model is much more appealing to the masses than one that is married.  Men will be more attuned to a lady that has nothing on her finger than one that does.  I wonder if the 2nd place winner is married or not?  Be interesting to know...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Also, about the accent thing, I did say that I was assuming.  Nobody should take offense, I just think it could be one thing that the judges would notice and especially if you're representing a fantasy character.</DIV>

Vie
08-19-2005, 06:37 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> eqaddixx wrote:<BR>Grats to the hottie for the win. I wonder why people are upset about gamer girls losing when they look nothing like Antonia. Just because you play the game and made a costume doesn't mean you actually look like her. The contest was open to anyone and is sponsored by a popular Men's magazine, men like to see hottie's and read the funnies on the can. Sorry to be so bold but that is the way it is. I commend everyone for trying though. <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Why didn't Carin Ashley <A href="http://questforantonia.station.sony.com/en/contestant.vm?cId=563" target=_blank>http://questforantonia.station.sony.com/en/contestant.vm?cId=563</A> win then? She was the hottest of the finalists. <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>So did our voting mean anything at all?</DIV><p>Message Edited by Vie on <span class=date_text>08-19-2005</span> <span class=time_text>07:44 AM</span>

OperationsX
08-19-2005, 07:36 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Vie wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> eqaddixx wrote:<BR>Grats to the hottie for the win. I wonder why people are upset about gamer girls losing when they look nothing like Antonia. Just because you play the game and made a costume doesn't mean you actually look like her. The contest was open to anyone and is sponsored by a popular Men's magazine, men like to see hottie's and read the funnies on the can. Sorry to be so bold but that is the way it is. I commend everyone for trying though. <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Why didn't Carin Ashley <A href="http://questforantonia.station.sony.com/en/contestant.vm?cId=563" target=_blank>http://questforantonia.station.sony.com/en/contestant.vm?cId=563</A> win then? She was the hottest of the finalists. <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>So did our voting mean anything at all?</DIV> <P>Message Edited by Vie on <SPAN class=date_text>08-19-2005</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>07:44 AM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Uhh, cuz she looks like a sports illustrated model posing for playboy and that has nothing to do with an Antonia Bayle contest? Oh wait...so did Anna and she won, ok I now see your point.......:smileyindifferent: </P> <P>I, and I know many others, personally went through and one rated all the playboy bunnies who knew nothing about the game and said things like 'vote for me cuz i'm hawt tee-hee !' So that person above probably got one rated alot before the final finalists were announced, so yah our voting did count for something, till it was down to the wire that is.</P> <p>Message Edited by OperationsX on <span class=date_text>08-19-2005</span> <span class=time_text>08:39 AM</span>

LawaiGirl
08-21-2005, 06:21 PM
<DIV>__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ _________________________________</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>lol I'm sorry I find it funny that PB was started after the contest was announced,  didnt lvl at all during the time, and now is not playing and Doubtful she will.  Yet,  she is still largely backed just cause she was perceived as a "gamer".... Please. </DIV> <DIV>__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ _________________________________</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I found it funny, too. I was reading previous posts on another thread and realized that PB registered on 7-05-2005. Got me to thinking. Then I read this thread and saw that PB started after the contest was announced.. The way the posts were written and only appeared after the contest started going sounded a little odd to me, and while everyone was saying she plays EQ2, I remember that her bio did mention something about immersing herself with EQ2 since finding out about the contest. So yeah.. Even though she may still be considered a "gamer" (because of playing D&D in the past and stuff), I wouldn't consider PB to be an *EQ2* gamer... *Sigh* Ah well.</DIV> <DIV><BR>What's even funnier, I thought, was when Anna mentioned that she plays EQ2 in her interview, when earlier she stated that she heard about the contest from her boyfriend's friend. /rolls eyes.  Like someone who plays EQ2 would've needed to hear about the contest from a friend's friend. And even if she did mean that she started playing because of the contest, that's pretty lame imho... :smileysad:</DIV>

MaNiaGG
08-23-2005, 03:07 PM
<P>Ok, she had a lvl 6 and a lvl 4 toon..but come on guys, calling her a gamer because of that is ridiculous...I can make a lvl 6 and 4 toon in half a hour...just like most of you...</P> <P>Just my 2 cent</P>

ambrial
08-23-2005, 07:07 PM
<P>/agree ~ and the characters wouldn't still be 4 and 6 a month later, I imagine the "gamer" started after the contest was announced.</P> <P>I think it should have been authentic players only who could apply, would have made it much more exciting :smileytongue:</P>

Midget of Death
08-24-2005, 11:18 AM
<DIV>I can't believe our community picked her to be Antonia.  Bad pick guys!  Come on, she has pancake breats.  </DIV>

Mad Marty
08-24-2005, 07:14 PM
<DIV>I am not a prude, infact I am a pervert, but his tabloid glamour makes me feel ashamed and nerdy.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Please make the next contest less miss world and more trailer trash halfling.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Up with in game chain mail bikinis!</DIV>

Ertoo
08-24-2005, 11:29 PM
<span><blockquote><hr>neriana wrote:<div></div> <p><font size="2">By the way, I'm complaining because I'm sick and tired of the borderline (is it borderline any more?) [Removed for Content] to titillate 14 year old boys in computer games, and I'm sick of looking at characters who have severe back problems because of their humongous mutant breasts, and I'm sick of armor that acts like spandex as soon as it's placed on a female toon. Adult women have a lot more money than 14 year old boys. Wake up and smell it.</font></p><hr></blockquote> Uhmm...i don't see anyone pointing a gun to your head forcing you to look at it.  If ya don't like it, play something else and let the world full of teenage boys drool over their keyboards in peace. </span><div></div>

Sar
08-28-2005, 09:09 PM
<p>...</p>

Soramenie
09-01-2005, 09:42 PM
<DIV>As soon as I saw that the winner of the contest would get a modelling contract I stopped paying attention. Because I knew then that the contest had absolutely nothing to do with EQ2 the game. It was just to get some hot babe that Sony could dress up in a skimpy outfit to make males drool at gaming conventions.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Think about it. Antonia Bayle looks more like a Las Vegas showgirl than the ruler of a city. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

VegasBarb
09-03-2005, 12:22 AM
<P>And what's wrong with Vegas Show girls? :smileytongue:</P> <P>Seriously, it's too bad they couldn't pick someone who looked like Antonia AND played the game....</P> <P><sighs in disappointment></P>

DrkVsr
11-24-2005, 11:52 AM
<P><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#993300 size=3>Mah view on this is that Anna is Stuff's cover model, but TN should be hired by SoE to be their EQII Rep (just like the Firiona model is the Rep for EQLive), specially seeing how she was selected by the gamers</FONT></P> <P><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#993300 size=3>And speaking of gamers: what difference is it that TN started playing after she heard about the contest? And TN? Whatever the problems with the contest, please don't let them stop you from playing (any server has gotta be proud of having you as a player, ah know ah would be jealous if you played on a server other than Najena)</FONT></P> <P><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#993300 size=3>You were always mah fav from the first time ah saw pics of you in costume</FONT></P>

Senliten
11-29-2005, 06:40 PM
Dark to let you in on this... It was the cool company named "Vaerant" that actually letted the gamers vote for th Firiona Vie Person but ever since Verant went bye bye and is now called "Sony"... there seem's to be a butt load of money munching cow infested nitwits at the Sony company only wanting to get paid for doing nothing.... hate to say it but the modle for Antonia Bayle is surly gona lead to some playboy nostilogical crap later on down the raod.. trust me... itil happen mayb not now, or tomarrow, but she will get kicked out by Sony and Stuff... and then be sent to playboy for the so called... entertainment... /sarcasim off and if your reading this and a mod edits this.... let them.. i jsut spoke my mind cause i have every right to do so.. <div></div>

Stinkin
11-30-2005, 09:51 PM
<P>Stupid competition.  Can't say any of them didn't look like Antonia because she looks and speaks like some stupid bimbo anyway.</P> <P>Yet somehow she is the leader of the 'good' city.</P> <P>Yep, this is my pet gripe with the EQ lore *grin*</P>

FireOp
12-01-2005, 01:07 AM
<P>Wow, that outfit is really...um....minimal.</P> <P>And people wonder why stereotypes of gamers as socially backwards (edit: apparently referring to having a mental disablility is <EM>verboten) </EM>hornballs persist. Oh well - another plastic <EM>woman of loose morals</EM> (another edit, sorry) in gaming isn't going to make much difference - goodness knows there are enough of them at E3. Sorry for sounding so self-righteous, it's just that I didn't expect to see the Antonia Bayle lookalike dressed like she was ready for the pole. She's supposed to be the leader of the good and righteous city of Qeynos, not a 2 dollar [Removed for Content]. Maybe it's not that unthinkable though, the high-fantasy game <EM>does</EM> have a well-established precedent of metal bikinis that are supposed to be plate armor.</P> <P>I would (in agreement with some previous posters) have liked to see someone who actually PLAYS EQ2 in that role, as opposed to someone who doesn't play. There <EM>are</EM> attractive girls that game out there, you know...</P> <P>Message Edited by FireOpal on <SPAN class=date_text>11-30-2005</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>03:14 PM</SPAN></P><p>Message Edited by FireOpal on <span class=date_text>11-30-2005</span> <span class=time_text>03:15 PM</span>

Xerxess
12-01-2005, 01:54 PM
<DIV>Well whats funny is some people slammed TN for starting to play after she found about the contest which I think is good...atleast you will get some idea of the lore.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Though no one ever slammed Anna for never playing at all and now she only plays because she is Antonia which I think is prolly in her contract she has too.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>TN quit the game because she lost the contest which was pretty bad...but think about it, if Anna lost do you think she would have ever picked up the game at all???</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I congrat TN on atleast picking up the game while she was doing the contest...atleast she got to learn a bit about it unlike Anna which knew nothing about the game and didn't even want to play it till she won...just seems fishy to me =</DIV>

DrkVsr
12-01-2005, 04:04 PM
<FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#993300 size=3>The reason Anna was not slammed was simply because no one had heard of her until she was 'crowned'</FONT>

Vortec
12-27-2005, 04:09 PM
I really dont know what some of you are smoking? Anna Is by FAR the hottest And the one that most resembles Antonia by far.EZ Victory.[Removed for Content] shes fine. <div></div>

mistress_darknes
12-27-2005, 08:25 PM
<P>Instead of looking for a female that fits the costum how about a real female that actually plays the game and is a gamer, yes we understand men have to have there eye candy, but come on guys we want a  female that is in our zone, a gamer.</P> <P>We went to one of the conventions and all the girls talk about was pre rehersed conversations and pose for pictures.</P> <P>another words there Barbi's.</P> <P>Next contest close it to want to be models and open it strickly to us.</P> <P>on our server you passed by a female that looked like  the queen and is a very strong gamer, now  she would be cool to sit and talk to have pic s with.</P> <DIV>It would also be cool to get conest going for best elf, gnomb ect alot of us love to roll play and would enjoy getting to dress up, giggles.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>S</DIV> <DIV>59 warden/female</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

RedRockCandy!
12-27-2005, 10:13 PM
<div></div>Why bump the thread of this digrace of a contest? At least SOE can review this and remember to never make a mistake like this again. I'm not interested in who made the final decision. If it was SOE, shame on them for insulting the community, if it was Stuff.... who reads that crap anyway? DO NOT buy that magazine, what trash. In the future I hope SOE has more sense about who they pick as business partners. <div></div>

Lady Uaelr
12-30-2005, 10:56 PM
Why isn't she wearing a cambric bath robe?

ironman2000
01-02-2006, 10:01 PM
Did any of you see or hear her on G4/Tech TV, while she might be nice to look at, when she was asked game questions or character question she came off looking pretty stupid, and i'm not saying this to be rude or mean, she just kind of gave blank looks and was trying to get out of there as fast as she could, you could see how uncomfortable she really was.  I would have figured they would have schooled her  a bit on the game and background of the the character, since they were parading her on TV LOL. <p>Message Edited by ironman2000 on <span class=date_text>01-02-2006</span> <span class=time_text>09:03 AM</span>

Lady Uaelr
01-04-2006, 05:50 AM
<DIV>why don't any characters in game dress or look like that?</DIV>