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Raknid
01-19-2012, 12:00 PM
<p>Just wanted to keep this top of mind and say I am utterly impressed with the difficulty this bug has presented in being sqaushed. Perhaps SOE can issue a post-mortem analysis on Gamaustra since their efforts adn experiences in fixing this terribly difficult bug would probably be appreciated by the gaming community at large.</p>

Griffildur
01-19-2012, 12:06 PM
<p><cite>Raknid wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Just wanted to keep this top of mind and say I am utterly impressed with the difficulty this bug has presented in being sqaushed. Perhaps SOE can issue a post-mortem analysis on Gamaustra since their efforts adn experiences in fixing this terribly difficult bug would probably be appreciated by the gaming community at large.</p></blockquote><p>Lol</p>

Rijacki
01-19-2012, 01:09 PM
<p><cite>Raknid wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Just wanted to keep this top of mind and say I am utterly impressed with the difficulty this bug has presented in being sqaushed. Perhaps SOE can issue a post-mortem analysis on Gamaustra since their efforts adn experiences in fixing this terribly difficult bug would probably be appreciated by the gaming community at large.</p></blockquote><p>What developer from the platform team (those who work on the websites and forums) said it was a bug?</p>

Raknid
01-19-2012, 01:16 PM
<table cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" width="100%"><form action="/eq2/posts/doModeration.m" accept-charset="UNKNOWN" enctype="application/x-www-form-urlencoded" method="post"><tbody><tr><td rowspan="3" align="left" valign="top"><div><span><a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/user/profile.m?user_id=319771"><strong><span style="color: #ff0000; font-size: x-small;">Amnerys</span></strong></a></span> <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/icons/soe.gif" border="0" /></div><span style="font-size: xx-small;"><span><span style="color: #d2c5a9;">Community Team <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/avatar/EQ2/staff/avatar_community_relations.png" border="0" /> Joined: Jun 2, 2008Messages: 2792</span><span><span style="color: #ff0000;">Offline </span></span></span></span></td><td valign="top"><span><p><span style="color: #ffffff;">This is frustrating for all of us, and we apologize for the inconvenience. We have folks working on it and hope this will be fixed soon.</span></p><p><span style="color: #ffffff;">I had to log in again just to post this response. Argh. So we know first hand what a pain it is.</span></p><p><span style="color: #ffffff;"> </span></p><p><span style="color: #ffffff;">Edited to Add: Oh yeah, I'm going to lock this one and point you to the thread Brigh linked above.</span></p></span><span style="color: #ffffff;"><span>Message edited by Amnerys on <span>01/12/2012 09:56:48</span>.</span><span style="background-color: #2a2623; font-size: small;"> </span></span></td></tr></tbody></form></table>

Lempo
01-19-2012, 01:21 PM
<p>That's the problem Rijacki no one has said anything solid and what has been said has been conflicting.</p><p>At least one red name on the forum said that it was affecting them too and was very frustrating and it was being looked into, then one of the SOE-MOD-XX said that they were told it was a new security feature they were implementing.</p><p>So no one knows, just like everything else no one in that organization seems to kno what the person next to them is doing.</p><p>This is about to go into a third week, and it is pretty aggravating the remember me function aside they also broke the session cookie that keeps you logged in for more than 5 minutes as long as your browser remains open. I really don't give a rats you know what who's department it is, someone, somewhere in that organization (and I use the term loosely) could clarify exactly what the intention is, instead of telling us that they "will look into it", because we all know that when they start looking into something it is usually months on end before we ever hear anything back.</p>

Rijacki
01-19-2012, 01:36 PM
<p><cite>Raknid wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><table cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td rowspan="3" align="left" valign="top"><div><span><a href="../user/profile.m?user_id=319771"><strong><span style="font-size: x-small; color: #ff0000;">Amnerys</span></strong></a></span> <img src="../images/icons/soe.gif" border="0" /></div><span style="font-size: xx-small;"><span><span style="color: #d2c5a9;">Community Team <img src="../images/avatar/EQ2/staff/avatar_community_relations.png" border="0" /> Joined: Jun 2, 2008Messages: 2792</span><span><span style="color: #ff0000;">Offline </span></span></span></span></td><td valign="top"><span><p><span style="color: #ffffff;">This is frustrating for all of us, and we apologize for the inconvenience. We have folks working on it and hope this will be fixed soon.</span></p><p><span style="color: #ffffff;">I had to log in again just to post this response. Argh. So we know first hand what a pain it is.</span></p><p><span style="color: #ffffff;"> </span></p><p><span style="color: #ffffff;">Edited to Add: Oh yeah, I'm going to lock this one and point you to the thread Brigh linked above.</span></p></span><span style="color: #ffffff;"><span>Message edited by Amnerys on <span>01/12/2012 09:56:48</span>.</span><span style="background-color: #2a2623; font-size: small;"> </span></span></td></tr></tbody></table></blockquote><p>Amerys is not a developer on any development team. She is a Community Rep. (it even says so under her name).</p><p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>That's the problem Rijacki no one has said anything solid and what has been said has been conflicting.</p><p>At least one red name on the forum said that it was affecting them too and was very frustrating and it was being looked into, then one of the SOE-MOD-XX said that they were told it was a new security feature they were implementing.</p></blockquote><p>That's part of my point. The first comment by a community person was from the same position as the players, thinking the change was unintended. The second was possibly after information had been disseminated internally to the various teams.</p><p>My question was to the point. What developer from the -correct- team has declared that this is a "BUG". The answer is real simple, none. To many players and even initially to the community reps, it might have looked unintended (which is to most the definition of 'bug'<img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />, but there isn't any true information one way or the other that it is.</p><p>It would be nice, though, to have an announcement about the change in the log in and 'keep connected' features of the forums. Also why the handy dandy links to the other portions of the SOE sites were removed (i.e. your account, community, etc.).</p><p>However, even from the first day, I didn't think it was a bug, but a change to the system (in the name of increased security) that isn't really convenient for anyone.</p><p>I've actually reduced the number of times I log into the forums during the day now, since it takes longer -each- time to log in to check anything. That, to me, is the sad repercussion of this.</p>

Raknid
01-19-2012, 02:07 PM
<p>Well I assumed, maybe incorrectly, that</p><p><span style="color: #ffffff;">"We have folks working on it and hope this will be fixed soon."</span></p><p>meant that it was not simply an observation/thought on the part of the CS person, that they had discussed it with, or brought it to the attention of, the pertinent people (hence the "folks"), and it was therefore truly a bug.</p>

Lempo
01-19-2012, 02:08 PM
<p><cite>Raknid wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Well I assumed, maybe incorrectly, that</p><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">"We have folks working on it and hope this will be fixed soon."</span></p><p>meant that it was not simply an observation/thought on the part of the CS person, that they had discussed it with, or brought it to the attention of, the pertinent people (hence the "we"), and it was therefore truly a bug.</p></blockquote><p>I wonder if it is going to be fixed and sooner than eq2 players. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/2786c5c8e1a8be796fb2f726cca5a0fe.gif" border="0" /></p>

SOE-MOD-08
01-19-2012, 02:39 PM
<p>Because there are already several threads on this topic I am locking it down.  </p>