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Brutalicus
12-02-2011, 12:25 PM
<p>Whats this I hear about Carpenters tradekill appretices only making earings your joking right?  Im a carpenter, I dont give a rats %$# about making someone earings.  I want some cool discoverable house item recipes is whaat I want.</p>

Eveningsong
12-02-2011, 01:41 PM
<p>The initial set of recipes is all gear/accessories, split up among the various TS classes.  They've said that they will be adding housing type recipes for carpenters down the road, along with other recipes for other classes. </p><p>The nice thing is that the daily quest to speed up research has a chance to drop the rare items used in the recipes, so even if you don't want the recipes, it's going to be worth doing the research.</p>

Dawnstrike
12-02-2011, 03:38 PM
<p>I would like the ability to ask the apprentices to make things for you.  Isn't that one of the things real appretices do?  It would be nice for large projects. Assign them a task to make you say 20 sumac tiles for example. Give them an hour or so and then they have them ready. This really seems like a research assistant from what I can tell so far.</p>

darwich
12-02-2011, 03:48 PM
<p><cite>Dawnstrike wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I would like the ability to ask the apprentices to make things for you.  Isn't that one of the things real appretices do?  It would be nice for large projects. Assign them a task to make you say 20 sumac tiles for example. Give them an hour or so and then they have them ready. This really seems like a research assistant from what I can tell so far.</p></blockquote><p>thats kind of what i was hoping for</p>

Twinklin
12-02-2011, 05:03 PM
<p>yeah I'm kinda sad about how the apprentices seem to work from what I've read. It seems they're useless to people who don't run heroics or do commission crafting. If everything takes the rare heroic instance dropped materials I'll probably never make a thing from the recipes. I could have read Mum's info wrong on eq2traders but that's what I gathered from it.</p>

Cloudrat
12-02-2011, 08:19 PM
<p>I bought the expansion for my other account to get the lavastorm house.</p>

Eveningsong
12-02-2011, 08:36 PM
<p><cite>[email protected] Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>yeah I'm kinda sad about how the apprentices seem to work from what I've read. It seems they're useless to people who don't run heroics or do commission crafting. If everything takes the rare heroic instance dropped materials I'll probably never make a thing from the recipes. I could have read Mum's info wrong on eq2traders but that's what I gathered from it.</p></blockquote><p>Well the daily crafting quest with the apprentice does have a chance to give one of the rare drops, so even if you don't want to do the recipes, it might be worth it to get the drops to sell or have something made for yourself.  The items are really REALLY nice for their level though (although it's not clear that the stats are finalized yet), and are tradeable/sellable on the broker.  I am definitely looking forward to some new house-related recipes for carpenters though <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />.</p>

Questall
12-02-2011, 10:38 PM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Whats this I hear about Carpenters tradekill appretices only making earings your joking right?  Im a carpenter, I dont give a rats %$# about making someone earings.  I want some cool discoverable house item recipes is whaat I want.</p></blockquote><p>I dont mean this as a troll and i understand you're disappointed, but hasnt the carpenter been spoiled lately? All kinds of tiles and other housing stuff, every world event has new carpenter recipes....compared to the other crafters, carpenters are definitely the favorite of the devs, thanks the good PR decorating gives no doubt.</p><p>Nevertheless, i understand ur pain, a carpenter is a carpenter and not a jeweler, and im sure that new housing recipes are already in the make, for a small price for sale on SC<img src="/eq2/images/smilies/908627bbe5e9f6a080977db8c365caff.gif" border="0" /></p>

Deveryn
12-02-2011, 11:23 PM
<p><cite>chardz wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Whats this I hear about Carpenters tradekill appretices only making earings your joking right?  Im a carpenter, I dont give a rats %$# about making someone earings.  I want some cool discoverable house item recipes is whaat I want.</p></blockquote><p>I dont mean this as a troll and i understand you're disappointed, but hasnt the carpenter been spoiled lately? All kinds of tiles and other housing stuff, every world event has new carpenter recipes....compared to the other crafters, carpenters are definitely the favorite of the devs, thanks the good PR decorating gives no doubt.</p><p>Nevertheless, i understand ur pain, a carpenter is a carpenter and not a jeweler, and im sure that new housing recipes are already in the make, for a small price for sale on SC<img src="/eq2/images/smilies/908627bbe5e9f6a080977db8c365caff.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>I wouldn't say carpenters are spoiled or a favorite, but we're certainly not in the same boat as other classes, when it comes to producing a lot of useful goods.</p><p>A lot of the stuff you mention (like tiles) are generally vendor sold or artisan recipes, so we don't really have as much being given to us as you might think.</p>

Sharann
12-03-2011, 05:55 AM
<p>I'd say it's not about being spoiled, it's about having features in an expansion that suits the corresponding tradeskill. I really don't see why carpenters would make gear based on rare drops from dungeons. I was having high hopes for the tradeskill apprentice, hoping that it would allow us to create beautiful house items <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" /> Apparently this is planned so wait and see...</p>

Mystfit
12-03-2011, 09:45 AM
<p>Well, spoiled or not, clearly in the norrathian Homeshow, the focus of our crafting interests is going to be housing items, so anything not housing related by default will rank less on the itnerest scale <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

SecrAtive Girl
12-03-2011, 11:55 AM
<p><cite>Mystfit wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Well, spoiled or not, clearly in the norrathian Homeshow, the focus of our crafting interests is going to be housing items, so anything not housing related by default will rank less on the itnerest scale <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>hehe yes... i was like earrings? what? pshaw! as if i have any interest what-so-ever in gear. i'm here for the house items! <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /></p>

Twinklin
12-03-2011, 03:06 PM
<p>If there was a whole community dedicated to tailoring robes and they had their own forum and paid their monthly subscription just so they could tailor robes I'm sure they'd add a lot more robe recipes. Since house decorating is such a HUGEly popular aspect of the game and the sole reason a lot of people play eq2 it's probably why they put so many new house items for carpenters in the game. Without it they'd lose a large player base.</p>

Mistal
12-05-2011, 10:27 AM
<p>Although I too was disappointed initally that some of the things I was *hoping* for (like them actually making stuff for us lol) isn't coming I can also understand the frustration over what is seemingly non carpenter related items. I have a lvl 90 carp on beta and from what I can tell there are 3 earrings and a bunch of weapon effects that can be crafted at lvl 90 (also some other stuff inc food for the lower tiers) </p><p>However I would say not to look on it and be disappointed .. silver lining and all that  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> people are going to want these (pic included of the earrings that can be made) and I am sure they will fetch a very good price which means more platzies for decorating <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> ... also I am sure that the apprentices will in time get upgraded and changed and who knows maybe making stuff for us is something that will come in the future ... and if that doesn't cheer you up get the othmir apprentice .. and once place .. right click and select "dance with me" <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </p><p><img src="http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/379418_10150429786774099_563414098_8183952_6534437 78_n.jpg" width="916" height="605" /></p>

Kimage
12-09-2011, 12:30 AM
<p>I know I'm bumping a thread somewhat... but question...</p><p>How long between quest do you have to wait to pick up the next one with your apprentice. It has been over 24 hours and I still can't pick up a new quest from him/her. He just keeps telling me to come back tomorrow.</p><p>Anyone know?</p>

Questall
12-09-2011, 04:57 AM
<p><cite>Kimage wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I know I'm bumping a thread somewhat... but question...</p><p>How long between quest do you have to wait to pick up the next one with your apprentice. It has been over 24 hours and I still can't pick up a new quest from him/her. He just keeps telling me to come back tomorrow.</p><p>Anyone know?</p></blockquote><p>its a bug, should be taken care of in the hotfix. So, its supposed to be a daily quest</p>

Rectale
12-09-2011, 05:31 AM
<p>They look crazy out of balance to me. Crafters making stuff that is on a par with raid gear. really?</p><p>Edited to add - all the other research guys for other tradeskills make what - full armor sets and full jewelry?</p>

Mistal
12-09-2011, 05:40 AM
<p>Also having the same problem with the daily quest that isn't daily lol ... really hope they fix this soon <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </p><p>Regarding the gear it isn't on par with raid gear as to the best of my knowledge none of the items have a red adornment slot <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </p>

Questall
12-09-2011, 05:55 AM
<p><cite>Rectale wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>They look crazy out of balance to me. Crafters making stuff that is on a par with raid gear. really?</p><p>Edited to add - all the other research guys for other tradeskills make what - full armor sets and full jewelry?</p></blockquote><p>yeah, have a look at the mage robe from the tailor, i think it might even go over the raidgear, even tho its main stat is WIS, lol.</p><p>So im expecting a major nerf one of the days/weeks/months/years, in other words, soon (TM)</p>

Kimage
12-09-2011, 04:47 PM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Also having the same problem with the daily quest that isn't daily lol ... really hope they fix this soon <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /> </p><p>Regarding the gear it isn't on par with raid gear as to the best of my knowledge none of the items have a red adornment slot <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /> </p></blockquote><p>and its all about the red adornment slots. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

Kimage
12-09-2011, 04:48 PM
<p><cite>chardz wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Rectale wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>They look crazy out of balance to me. Crafters making stuff that is on a par with raid gear. really?</p><p>Edited to add - all the other research guys for other tradeskills make what - full armor sets and full jewelry?</p></blockquote><p>yeah, have a look at the mage robe from the tailor, i think it might even go over the raidgear, even tho its main stat is WIS, lol.</p><p>So im expecting a major nerf one of the days/weeks/months/years, in other words, soon (TM)</p></blockquote><p>SHUSH YOUR MOUTH!!!</p><p>NOTHING TO SEE HERE REDS... KEEP MOVING! YES RIGHT ON DOWN THE LINE.</p>

Rainmare
12-09-2011, 06:26 PM
<p>what I wanna know is who makes all the armor. as an armorer, I only make breastplates and forearms...who makes the legs/hats/gloves/shoulders/boots?</p>

Senya
12-09-2011, 08:44 PM
<p>Each class makes different pieces.  <a href="http://eq2.eqtraders.com/articles/article_page.php?article=g471&menustr=115000000000" target="_blank">This is from EQ2TC</a>:</p><h4><blockquote><h4>The Recipes</h4><p>All crafting classes get access to researching the "greater essence" recipes at level 90 that create different appearance effects on reforged items. For level 10 recipes, you can research recipes specific to your subclass (scholar, outfitter or craftsman). For level 20-90 recipes, the class breakdown is as follows:</p> <ul><li>Alchemist - fabled rings: two tank/scout and two mage/priest ones per tier</li><li>Armorer - fabled forearm & chest: tank plate, healer plate, scout chain, and healer chain </li><li>Carpenter - fabled earrings: two tank/scout and two mage/priest ones per tier</li><li>Provisioner - 30-minute fabled food and drink with stats and special effects on them</li><li>Jeweler - fabled bracelets: two tank/scout and two mage/priest ones per tier</li><li>Sage: fabled charms: two tank/scout and two mage/priest ones per tier</li><li>Tailor: fabled forearm & chest: cloth, healer leather, brawler leather</li><li>Weaponsmith - one-handed and two-handed fabled weapons for all classes</li><li>Woodworker - fabled ranged items (pouches, bows, ranged spell items)</li></ul></blockquote></h4>