LP4 and Linux

[Sedory]

<p>For the most part, I tend to log into EQ2 quite a lot from my Linux workstation.  In order to do this I've had to run with the old Station Launcher in order to run properly due to incompatibilities with new features in the Steaming or Full launchers (LP3?).  Given the look (maybe flash or html5) and features mentioned so far (fast downloads via either background services or differential files), I'm really concerned that this will no longer allow me to play EQ2 under Linux.</p><p>I know the probable answer, but was this even tested in Linux?  Yes, SOE does not offically support Linux, but has not locked Linux users out of the game.  There is a moderator-stickied thread of users supporting other users getting EQ2 to run under Linux, which implies that while SOE does not support Linux it does however condone it.  This forced move to LP4 will likely lock out those of use playing under Linux and force us to look for a new game to play.</p><p>Please consider other operating systems with this new mandatory launcher.</p><p>Thanks,Dedith <Ardent Regression> - Crushbone</p>

[Banedon_Toran]

<p>It's definitely not flash, that's the whole point of the new launchpad, I would be surprised if it's HTML5 as it's an incomplete standard.</p><p>Not sure what that leaves... Javascript/Java I guess.</p><p>I've seen a few random comments which suggest the new launcher doesn't actually close when the game starts, so perhaps the launcher is also the background patcher.</p><p>In which case as long as you can run that to patch, you can then run the EverQuest2.exe file to start the game proper.</p><p>Would be interested to hear what the outcome is as I sometimes dabble with Linux systems myself but never really got EQ2 working as well as on my Win7 desktop.</p>

[TSR-JoshuaM]

<p>As far as that type of functionality is concerned you would be best served asking the LP developers directly.  They have their own forum here, <a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/station/forums/list.m?category_id=56">http://forums.station.sony.com/stat...?category_id=56</a></p>

[Banedon_Toran]

<p>Using WebKit rather than IE/Flash/Windows files... so might actually be <em>more</em> compatible with Linux <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[TSR-JoshuaM]

<p>That's a great point <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Crillus]

<p><cite>Sedory wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Please consider other operating systems with this new mandatory launcher.</p><p>Thanks,Dedith - Crushbone</p></blockquote><p>^^ That.</p><p>If I could get EQ2 working smoothly in Linux, I'd be one happy person. I get get it to run and all, it's just the 'maintaining it' without any support at all that's an issue.</p><p>But I'd at least like to thank the devs for not working against Linux either.</p><p>Has sony ever considered the potential gaming market with a retail game like EQ2 actually being supported for Linux though? You'd instantly be the 'news' all across the Linux/Wine forums for doing that.</p><p>When it does run until Linux it runs very well. I had it running with Wine just fine, then I updated Wine - big mistake.. I tried for a day to get it going good again, but couldn't. I mean, I know eventually I'll get it going, but... meh... time's limited.</p>

[TSR-JoshuaM]

<p>The issue right now is that the Technical Support department has no part in that decision making process.  You would be best served presenting these concerns on a general discussion forum where an actual developer, or producer, would be able to see it.</p>

[Crillus]

<p><cite>TSR-JoshuaM wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>The issue right now is that the Technical Support department has no part in that decision making process.  You would be best served presenting these concerns on a general discussion forum where an actual developer, or producer, would be able to see it.</p></blockquote><p>Interesting, ok. It just might be a good 'out of the box' type of move for Sony. I suspect that worldwide, they are many Linux users who would be quite interested.</p><p>Mostly to 'management' those questions tend to get ignored because they are not quantifable, but I suppose that might be because no one's tried it, hehe.</p>

[TSR-JoshuaM]

<p>Being a linux user and part of the community myself, just purely out of curiosity, you do believe theres a market there?  I wouldn't personally think so.  Just for discussion sake <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Sedory]

<p><cite>Crillus@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>When it does run until Linux it runs very well. I had it running with Wine just fine, then I updated Wine - big mistake.. I tried for a day to get it going good again, but couldn't. I mean, I know eventually I'll get it going, but... meh... time's limited.</p></blockquote><p>Well, more then likely your wine prefix is messed up.  Up until today, I was using the following script..  (note, EQ2 is located at /usr/share/games/eq2, the wine prefix for JUST eq2 is at /usr/share/games/eq2/wine, and the station launcher (the old one) is at /usr/share/games/StationLauncher)</p><p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #003366;"><span style="color: #00ccff;">#!/bin/shif [ "$1" == "reset" ]; then        rm -rf /usr/share/games/eq2/wine/        WINEPREFIX=/usr/share/games/eq2/wine/ winetricks vcrun2005 d3dx9 d3dx10 flash orm=fbo ddr=openglfiWINEPREFIX=/usr/share/games/eq2/wine/ nohup wine explorer /desktop=eq2,1440x960 /usr/share/games/StationLauncher/StationLauncher.exe > /dev/null 2>&1 &</span></span></p><p>Note, at present the StationLauncher is no longer functioning (it's attempting to login, but just sits there 'processing' but never logging in).  I'll have to manually update to the new launcher and see if I can get it working, but the above script can EASILY reset your wine prefix to work with eq2 (requires a recent winetricks) and launch.</p><p>PM me if you need any further help, and I'll post more here if I get the LP4 working</p>

[TSR-JoshuaM]

<p>I'll sticky a new thread for you or anyone else who can get it working for Linux <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Crillus]

<p><cite>Sedory wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Crillus@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>When it does run until Linux it runs very well. I had it running with Wine just fine, then I updated Wine - big mistake.. I tried for a day to get it going good again, but couldn't. I mean, I know eventually I'll get it going, but... meh... time's limited.</p></blockquote><p>Well, more then likely your wine prefix is messed up.  Up until today, I was using the following script..  (note, EQ2 is located at /usr/share/games/eq2, the wine prefix for JUST eq2 is at /usr/share/games/eq2/wine, and the station launcher (the old one) is at /usr/share/games/StationLauncher)</p><p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #003366;"><span style="color: #00ccff;">#!/bin/shif [ "$1" == "reset" ]; then        rm -rf /usr/share/games/eq2/wine/        WINEPREFIX=/usr/share/games/eq2/wine/ winetricks vcrun2005 d3dx9 d3dx10 flash orm=fbo ddr=openglfiWINEPREFIX=/usr/share/games/eq2/wine/ nohup wine explorer /desktop=eq2,1440x960 /usr/share/games/StationLauncher/StationLauncher.exe > /dev/null 2>&1 &</span></span></p><p>Note, at present the StationLauncher is no longer functioning (it's attempting to login, but just sits there 'processing' but never logging in).  I'll have to manually update to the new launcher and see if I can get it working, but the above script can EASILY reset your wine prefix to work with eq2 (requires a recent winetricks) and launch.</p><p>PM me if you need any further help, and I'll post more here if I get the LP4 working</p></blockquote><p>Awesome, maybe I'll give it a shot again. What version of Wine would you suggest?</p><p>And I have tried Winetricks, of course. I think it was 1.2.3 that worked out 'out of the box' almost for me. Then I updated... I forget what version, I'll have to look.</p>

[TSR-JoshuaM]

<p>LP4 is now live <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Sedory]

<p>I'm working out bugs with it now.. but the launcher is actually attempting to go into eq2, just that is now crashing.  Once I get a good setup running I'll post a how-to.</p>

[TSR-JoshuaM]

<p>Sounds like a plan <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Make sure you put it in a new thread so I can put a pin in it!</p>

[Lejoni]

<p><cite>TSR-JoshuaM wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Being a linux user and part of the community myself, just purely out of curiosity, you do believe theres a market there?  I wouldn't personally think so.  Just for discussion sake <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>Actually yes!</p><p>Look at Humble indie bundle for example. There Linux has a bigger share than Mac.</p><p>And Mac even have native clients for many games.</p><p>And to this remember Wine also works on Intel Mac!</p><p>So if SOE would support EQ2 (and perhaps other games) on the "Wine platform" it would then get both</p><p>Linux and Mac gamers! and that is deffenetly a significant ammount.</p><p>Also, don't forget Goodwill. Any major company that starts to treat us Linux users with some respect for once, will get a lot of it!</p>

[TSR-JoshuaM]

<p><cite>Lejoni wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>TSR-JoshuaM wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Being a linux user and part of the community myself, just purely out of curiosity, you do believe theres a market there?  I wouldn't personally think so.  Just for discussion sake <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>Actually yes!</p><p>Look at Humble indie bundle for example. There Linux has a bigger share than Mac.</p><p>And Mac even have native clients for many games.</p><p>And to this remember Wine also works on Intel Mac!</p><p>So if SOE would support EQ2 (and perhaps other games) on the "Wine platform" it would then get both</p><p>Linux and Mac gamers! and that is deffenetly a significant ammount.</p><p>Also, don't forget Goodwill. Any major company that starts to treat us Linux users with some respect for once, will get a lot of it!</p></blockquote><p>I do love the idea <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Let's see what I can do with this but no promises! <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  Chances are we may never directly support it but I'll do my due diligence here.</p>

[myth327-2]

<p>I know there is a linux gaming community but I couldn't tell you how large it is. You could check some of the linux game sites to see how many users they have? I've tried both Regnum Online and Ryzom MMO's for linux and neither are as good as EQII. You can be assured that you'd get more users than they do.</p><p>I personally am going to give it a bit to see if someone can make the new launcher work. If they can't I'm going to have to cancel my subscription as I'm not going to redo my entire system for 1 game. Keeping fingers crossed.</p><p>Icoer/Alex</p>

[TSR-JoshuaM]

<p><cite>Icoer@Nektulos wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I know there is a linux gaming community but I couldn't tell you how large it is. You could check some of the linux game sites to see how many users they have? I've tried both Regnum Online and Ryzom MMO's for linux and neither are as good as EQII. You can be assured that you'd get more users than they do.</p><p>I personally am going to give it a bit to see if someone can make the new launcher work. If they can't I'm going to have to cancel my subscription as I'm not going to redo my entire system for 1 game. Keeping fingers crossed.</p><p>Icoer/Alex</p></blockquote><p>We have someone who got it to work so I stickied their walkthrough.</p><p><a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=510027">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=510027</a></p>

[myth327-2]

<p>Thanks!! I'll give it a try.</p>

[TSR-JoshuaM]

<p>Don't thank me, thank the poster who contributed the script <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>