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arvydys
11-12-2011, 07:15 PM
<p>I really want to fully get this out there NOW so I know that SoE understands what they are giving us.  I dont think the value has sunk in for many, and Im sure there are some who are being silent about it.  But i want this can of worms opened up just in case there is a catch, or they take it away based on the value.</p><p>1.  All subscribers are getting 500 SC per month</p><p>2.  Subscriptions will be available via SC</p><p>3.  Expansions will be available via SC</p><p>So this obviously isnt just a 'heres some SC to buy fluff with' thing.  This is actually a big deal.</p><p>Over the course of 12 months wed get 6000 SC.  </p><p>Thats a free expansion and then some</p><p>Or, thats 4 free months of EQ</p><p>There are a lot of things you can do with this.  I hope that SoE realized this before it was announced.</p><p>Obviously their hope is we all buy petamorph wands and troll plushies and gaming tables with it, and many will.  But the people that can be patient with their SC will be well rewarded.</p><p>I just would LOVE clarification that:</p><p>the 500 SC/month isnt going away AND</p><p>that $1.00 will remain = to 100 SC</p><p>this way I can brace myself if there is a catch to this.</p>

Deveryn
11-12-2011, 07:18 PM
<p>It's important to note that it's for recurring subs. <a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?start=0&topic_id=509183�" target="_blank">(see here on #3)</a></p>

Banedon_Toran
11-12-2011, 07:22 PM
<p>i.e. only for Gold Subscribers using a Credit/Debit card or similar payment method.</p><p>Remember that SC costs Sony nothing, well... nothing except a vague possibility that you'll buy less SC because you're already getting 500SC free which most likely is bogus cos you'll spend your 500SC then realise that there was something else in the marketplace which you can't wait until next month to buy.</p><p>Basically Sony run their own SC printing press, giving you 500SC does <strong>not</strong> cost them $5 real US Greenback bucks.</p>

agentsix
11-12-2011, 07:25 PM
<p><cite>[email protected]_old wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Thats a free expansion and then some</p></blockquote><p>I think that's an option. If you can simply not spend your 500 SC that you get for the monthly, recurring sub, at the end of the year you'll have enough saved to buy the next Expansion.</p>

arvydys
11-12-2011, 07:26 PM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>It's important to note that it's for recurring subs. <a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?start=0&topic_id=509183�" target="_blank">(see here on #3)</a></p></blockquote><p>I did get confused because I thought they announced you will be able to fund recurring subs with SC but thinking about it thats probably not feasible since how can they guarantee the SC will be in there?</p><p>Still its a pretty powerful thing, since Im betting quite a bit of people use recurring as 3, 6, and 12 month subs werent available as non recurring until these changes.</p>

Fanga
11-12-2011, 07:27 PM
<p>That what i heard too, but the freeblood and breastlord wont be free though, even if you are gold member. 2,000 SC for freeblood and not sure how much beastlord will be, prob the samn.</p><p>I bought freeblood other day and didnt see this, tho i was getting ripped off and realise that i wasnt and if you want it, gotta buy it.</p><p>So this free EQII Live along with 500 SC a month is not that bad at all. One thing there, that the expansion DoV and the newer one will cost you, wont be free or come with it.</p>

agentsix
11-12-2011, 07:29 PM
<p><cite>Fanga wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>That what i heard too, but the freeblood and breastlord wont be free though, even if you are gold member. 2,000 SC for freeblood and not sure how much beastlord will be, prob the samn.</p></blockquote><p>I don't think, at least initially, that Beastlords will be for sale in the Marketplace.</p><p>You have to buy AoD to access them.</p>

arvydys
11-12-2011, 07:32 PM
<p><cite>Banedon_Toran wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>i.e. only for Gold Subscribers using a Credit/Debit card or similar payment method.</p><p>Remember that SC costs Sony nothing, well... nothing except a vague possibility that you'll buy less SC because you're already getting 500SC free which most likely is bogus cos you'll spend your 500SC then realise that there was something else in the marketplace which you can't wait until next month to buy.</p><p>Basically Sony run their own SC printing press, giving you 500SC does <strong>not</strong> cost them $5 real US Greenback bucks.</p></blockquote><p>I do understand this, and a lot will use it on fluff.  But while it doesnt cost them anything for some players, it will definitely not be free for them.  I bet there will be quite a few people that wait a few months for AoD and pay at least partial with the free SC.  Or the people that buy 2k SC every now and then just for a rainy day (I know several of these), they wont have to buy that any more.</p><p>Its a very good incentive to stay a recurring customer though (and its not like recurring customers promise that theyll stick around longer, they might just forget to cancel in time if they leave).  One of the more generous offers Ive seen from any MMO company.</p>

Catria
11-12-2011, 07:36 PM
<p><cite>Fanga wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>That what i heard too, but the freeblood and breastlord wont be free though, even if you are gold member. 2,000 SC for freeblood and not sure how much beastlord will be, prob the samn.</p><p>I bought freeblood other day and didnt see this, tho i was getting ripped off and realise that i wasnt and if you want it, gotta buy it.</p><p>So this free EQII Live along with 500 SC a month is not that bad at all. One thing there, that the expansion DoV and the newer one will cost you, wont be free or come with it.</p></blockquote><p>If you unlocked any race/class in the 60 days prior to the conversion, it's been stated that you will get a refund.</p>

Aliscious
11-12-2011, 07:36 PM
<p><cite>[email protected]_old wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>1.  All subscribers are getting 500 SC per month</p><p>2.  Subscriptions will be available via SC</p><p>3.  Expansions will be available via SC</p><p>...</p><p>Thats a free expansion and then some</p><p>Or, thats 4 free months of EQ</p><p>...</p></blockquote><p>You get the 500 SC with a recurring membership. But as a recurring member, it would appear that you cannot use SC toward that membership. The FAQ explicitly states that you can use SC for non-recurring membership, but is silent on recurring in that regard.</p>

arvydys
11-12-2011, 07:40 PM
<p><cite>Aliscious wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>[email protected]_old wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>1.  All subscribers are getting 500 SC per month</p><p>2.  Subscriptions will be available via SC</p><p>3.  Expansions will be available via SC</p><p>...</p><p>Thats a free expansion and then some</p><p>Or, thats 4 free months of EQ</p><p>...</p></blockquote><p>You get the 500 SC with a recurring membership. But as a recurring member, it would appear that you cannot use SC toward that membership. The FAQ explicitly states that you can use SC for non-recurring membership, but is silent on recurring in that regard.</p></blockquote><p>You could do one year recurring, earn 6k, cancel recurring and switch to non recurring with SC, use four free months, then go back to recurring for next year</p><p>Ive never seen any other company do this kind of thing and with this kind of flexibility.  Like I said, sounds too good to be true.</p>

Aliscious
11-12-2011, 07:56 PM
<p><cite>[email protected]_old wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Aliscious wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>[email protected]_old wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>1.  All subscribers are getting 500 SC per month</p><p>2.  Subscriptions will be available via SC</p><p>3.  Expansions will be available via SC</p><p>...</p><p>Thats a free expansion and then some</p><p>Or, thats 4 free months of EQ</p><p>...</p></blockquote><p>You get the 500 SC with a recurring membership. But as a recurring member, it would appear that you cannot use SC toward that membership. The FAQ explicitly states that you can use SC for non-recurring membership, but is silent on recurring in that regard.</p></blockquote><p>You could do one year recurring, earn 6k, cancel recurring and switch to non recurring with SC, use four free months, then go back to recurring for next year</p><p>Ive never seen any other company do this kind of thing and with this kind of flexibility.  Like I said, sounds too good to be true.</p></blockquote><p>Yep. To get the same price I pay today, it would appear that I will have to jump through those hoops of switching my membership on and off recurring. Of course, if I want to preorder the expansion, and I don't buy fluff items, then the 500sc is kind of pointless. So basically, it would appear that my sub price just went up $3 a month.</p>

Catria
11-12-2011, 08:05 PM
<p><cite>Aliscious wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>[email protected]_old wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Aliscious wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>[email protected]_old wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>1.  All subscribers are getting 500 SC per month</p><p>2.  Subscriptions will be available via SC</p><p>3.  Expansions will be available via SC</p><p>...</p><p>Thats a free expansion and then some</p><p>Or, thats 4 free months of EQ</p><p>...</p></blockquote><p>You get the 500 SC with a recurring membership. But as a recurring member, it would appear that you cannot use SC toward that membership. The FAQ explicitly states that you can use SC for non-recurring membership, but is silent on recurring in that regard.</p></blockquote><p>You could do one year recurring, earn 6k, cancel recurring and switch to non recurring with SC, use four free months, then go back to recurring for next year</p><p>Ive never seen any other company do this kind of thing and with this kind of flexibility.  Like I said, sounds too good to be true.</p></blockquote><p>Yep. To get the same price I pay today, it would appear that I will have to jump through those hoops of switching my membership on and off recurring. Of course, if I want to preorder the expansion, and I don't buy fluff items, then the 500sc is kind of pointless. So basically, it would appear that my sub price just went up $3 a month.</p></blockquote><p>I'm confused... how did your sub price go up $3 per month?</p>

arvydys
11-12-2011, 08:07 PM
<p><cite>[email protected] Bazaar wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><strong><em></em></strong></p><p>I'm confused... how did your sub price go up $3 per month?</p></blockquote><p>I didnt see any price raises.  Maybe i missed something?</p>

Detor
11-12-2011, 08:23 PM
<p>If you bought game cards at Walmart you already got 500 bonus station cash, so it isn't entirely 'out there' for them to give the same thing for direct subscribers via credit card.</p>

Alenna
11-12-2011, 08:37 PM
<p><cite>Fanga wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>That what i heard too, but the freeblood and breastlord wont be free though, even if you are gold member. 2,000 SC for freeblood and not sure how much beastlord will be, prob the samn.</p><p>I bought freeblood other day and didnt see this, tho i was getting ripped off and realise that i wasnt and if you want it, gotta buy it.</p><p>So this free EQII Live along with 500 SC a month is not that bad at all. One thing there, that the expansion DoV and the newer one will cost you, wont be free or come with it.</p></blockquote><p>beastlord comes with AoD</p>

arvydys
11-12-2011, 08:53 PM
<p><cite>Detor wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>If you bought game cards at Walmart you already got 500 bonus station cash, so it isn't entirely 'out there' for them to give the same thing for direct subscribers via credit card.</p></blockquote><p>This is true, but a few notable differences:  The walmart cards were only good for $15 a month memberships, credit card recurring memberships are as low as $10 per month</p><p>Also, you couldnt use the SC on subs, now you will be able too (granted youll have to go non recurring briefly to do so)</p><p>And not everyone has access to a Walmart or cares to deal with the hassle of a walmart.  Now we get the SC for no extra effort.</p>

Fanga
11-12-2011, 09:24 PM
<p><cite>[email protected] Bazaar wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Fanga wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>That what i heard too, but the freeblood and breastlord wont be free though, even if you are gold member. 2,000 SC for freeblood and not sure how much beastlord will be, prob the samn.</p><p>I bought freeblood other day and didnt see this, tho i was getting ripped off and realise that i wasnt and if you want it, gotta buy it.</p><p>So this free EQII Live along with 500 SC a month is not that bad at all. One thing there, that the expansion DoV and the newer one will cost you, wont be free or come with it.</p></blockquote><p>If you unlocked any race/class in the 60 days prior to the conversion, it's been stated that you will get a refund.</p></blockquote><p>That is true, i send the email to them and wondering what with that and though i got burned for it. So for they who purchase the freeblood will get credits for it as well.</p>

arvydys
11-12-2011, 09:44 PM
<p><cite>Fanga wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>[email protected] Bazaar wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Fanga wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>That what i heard too, but the freeblood and breastlord wont be free though, even if you are gold member. 2,000 SC for freeblood and not sure how much beastlord will be, prob the samn.</p><p>I bought freeblood other day and didnt see this, tho i was getting ripped off and realise that i wasnt and if you want it, gotta buy it.</p><p>So this free EQII Live along with 500 SC a month is not that bad at all. One thing there, that the expansion DoV and the newer one will cost you, wont be free or come with it.</p></blockquote><p>If you unlocked any race/class in the 60 days prior to the conversion, it's been stated that you will get a refund.</p></blockquote><p>That is true, i send the email to them and wondering what with that and though i got burned for it. So for they who purchase the freeblood will get credits for it as well.</p></blockquote><p>Freeblood wont get credited because its not free to live subscribers (there was a promotion with it but thats long gone).  Only stuff like Trolls that are becoming free to gold with the conversion.</p>

Alenna
11-12-2011, 10:49 PM
<p><cite>Detor wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>If you bought game cards at Walmart you already got 500 bonus station cash, so it isn't entirely 'out there' for them to give the same thing for direct subscribers via credit card.</p></blockquote><p>If your walmart sold them I can't seem to find them in either of my local walmarts.</p>

Golbezz
11-13-2011, 04:19 AM
<p><cite>[email protected]_old wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>You could do one year recurring, earn 6k, cancel recurring and switch to non recurring with SC, use four free months, then go back to recurring for next year </p><p>Ive never seen any other company do this kind of thing and with this kind of flexibility.  Like I said, sounds too good to be true.</p></blockquote><p>Take a look at prices of the newest SC items at this time on the marketplace.</p><p>Wait a few months and check prices on new items. Are the top new items at least +500 SC compared to the old top items?</p><p>I suspect this is what you will see in the future on the marketplace to make up the difference of the "free" SC.</p>

Deveryn
11-13-2011, 04:21 AM
<p>yay. conspiracy theories -_-</p>

Nynaeve
11-13-2011, 06:56 AM
<p>are you guys sure we'll get the 500SC MONTHLY with the $120 year sub once LIVE becomes F2P? Because the text at the ordering page says SC500 ONCE.</p>

dawy
11-13-2011, 09:03 AM
<p>Wondering if you can clear something up,my kids have subbed for years without a break will they now have to pay for the Freeblood's?</p><p>I seem to find a differing answer with every post lol,</p><p>Hope you good chaps can clarify it for them</p>

Wingrider01
11-13-2011, 09:17 AM
<p><cite>dawy wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Wondering if you can clear something up,my kids have subbed for years without a break will they now have to pay for the Freeblood's?</p><p>I seem to find a differing answer with every post lol,</p><p>Hope you good chaps can clarify it for them</p></blockquote><p>freebloods for longtime subscribers where given via the velious winter rewards program, if they where subscribed during that program they got the race, other then that it has to be purchased.</p>

Wingrider01
11-13-2011, 09:18 AM
<p><cite>dawy wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Wondering if you can clear something up,my kids have subbed for years without a break will they now have to pay for the Freeblood's?</p><p>I seem to find a differing answer with every post lol,</p><p>Hope you good chaps can clarify it for them</p></blockquote><p><a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=509213">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=509213</a></p><p>3) Do recurring subscriptions get a 500SC bonus grant per month?</p><p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #339966;"><strong>The answer is "yes".</strong></span> All durations of <strong>recurring</strong> Gold memberships (1-, 3-, 6-, and 12-month) get 500SC granted to them each month. (NOTE: This is a perk for recurring memberships only. Non-recurring memberships do not get this grant.)</p>

Gaealiege
11-13-2011, 10:49 AM
<p>The idea behind the free SC is pretty simple.  It's a foot-in-the-door phenomenon.  If we give people 500 station cash, they might look at that 1,000 station cash item and say to themselves...hey it's only $5 now.  I think I'll get that.  Or that 1,500 station cash item and say ...hey it's only $10 now because I was given a "free" 500.  Or after two months that 1,500 turns into a ...hey it's only $5 now.</p><p>They're hoping people will buy station cash to make friends with their "free" 500 station cash a month so that items will not seem so costly.  Money, money, money.</p>

Cyliena
11-13-2011, 10:52 AM
<p><cite>Nynaeve wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>are you guys sure we'll get the 500SC MONTHLY with the $120 year sub once LIVE becomes F2P? Because the text at the ordering page says SC500 ONCE.</p></blockquote><p>They're talking about after the changeover happens. Currently it's not available, wait for the F2P change. <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>I'm guessing with the 500SC/month for recurring that means we'll no longer get the cool mount/cloak/armor crate with our 3/6/12 month subs eh?</p>

Felynx
11-13-2011, 10:56 AM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>The idea behind the free SC is pretty simple.  It's a foot-in-the-door phenomenon.  If we give people 500 station cash, they might look at that 1,000 station cash item and say to themselves...hey it's only $5 now.  I think I'll get that.  Or that 1,500 station cash item and say ...hey it's only $10 now because I was given a "free" 500.  Or after two months that 1,500 turns into a ...hey it's only $5 now.</p><p>They're hoping people will buy station cash to make friends with their "free" 500 station cash a month so that items will not seem so costly.  Money, money, money.</p></blockquote><p>Yes, because gods forbid SOE make any money. I mean, they do this whole video game thing for charity, right?</p>

Gaealiege
11-13-2011, 01:30 PM
<p>That's exactly what I'm pointing out.  Anyone saying "Thank god for the charity of this 500 SC" is out of their mind.  The idea behind it is profit.</p>

MystsofLedge12
11-14-2011, 12:51 AM
<p>TBH i could care less about SC items.... its mostly apperance, i did buy a mount but only because i had the SC in my account from this or that.</p><p>NOW is the new setup going to require me to use SC to play the game? as in cost more than my monthly sub, I really don't want any changes to how it all works I am most of the people I play with are happy to how it works.</p><p>Are they going to make it to get into new content bam it will be 250 SC to unlock a new instance or what..... uhh The old system wasn't exactly broke (not the bugs they have trouble fixing)  but system as in Develop NEW Content with NEW Zones/Lore/Dungeons then package that with new Level/AA/Races/Classes/Gear for a reasonable $40 for the expansion.</p>

Frenzywolf
11-14-2011, 12:57 AM
<p>The 500 Free Station Cash is a good come on but I won't hold my breath it will last. The come on will last just so long and then BOOM they will pull that rug from under us and discontinue it with some silly reason.</p>

Golbezz
11-14-2011, 01:48 AM
<p><cite>[email protected] Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>The 500 Free Station Cash is a good come on but I won't hold my breath it will last. The come on will last just so long and then BOOM they will pull that rug from under us and discontinue it with some silly reason.</p></blockquote><p>Part of the plan might also to move players away from the game cards at least for EQ2. I suspect the "free SC" will continue but marketplace items will simply increase in price. Think about it, get the anti-SC players to accept the presence of the marketplace a bit more by giving away free SC that they could save for a future <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">expansion</span> features pack and increase the price on the marketplace to grab more money from those who buy lots of SC items.</p><p>Then it will happen, game changing marketplace items will show up again no matter what the outcome of the player poll turns out to be. When that happens, the anti-pay-to-win players will leave and SOE will be left with inflated marketplace prices + pay-to-win item sales.</p><p>Does that sound too unreasonable to be true? Maybe it is but I wouldn't place a bet against it happening after the F2P change.</p>

Deveryn
11-14-2011, 02:46 AM
<p>Well, place your bet.</p><p>Daddy wants to collect all the housing. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

Aliscious
11-14-2011, 03:38 AM
<p><cite>[email protected]_old wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>[email protected] Bazaar wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><strong><em></em></strong></p><p>I'm confused... how did your sub price go up $3 per month?</p></blockquote><p>I didnt see any price raises.  Maybe i missed something?</p></blockquote><p>12-month subs currently pay 11.99/mo. As of right now, there are no published discounts for multi-month memberships under the new plan.</p>

Cocytus
11-14-2011, 03:55 AM
<p>Not sure why this would come as a surprise. Most games that have a F2p and Sub plan do this. If you sub, you get market currency monthly  for your sub, basically.</p>

Banedon_Toran
11-14-2011, 05:32 AM
<p><cite>Aliscious wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>[email protected]_old wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>[email protected] Bazaar wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><strong><em></em></strong></p><p>I'm confused... how did your sub price go up $3 per month?</p></blockquote><p>I didnt see any price raises.  Maybe i missed something?</p></blockquote><p>12-month subs currently pay 11.99/mo. As of right now, there are no published discounts for multi-month memberships under the new plan.</p></blockquote><p>As has been pointed out numerous times, the current discounts are unchanged, they simply didn't add them to the big "list of things changing" as umm... they are not changing!</p><p>As for the 500SC a month, this is simply giving Card users the same deal that Walmart customers get when they buy 1500SC/30 day cards and get 500SC bonus.</p>

Darq
11-14-2011, 08:01 AM
<p><cite>[email protected]_old wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>Integer values are totally awesome</blockquote><p>Are you a SOE employee?</p>

Frenzied
11-15-2011, 07:31 PM
<p><cite>Aliscious wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>[email protected]_old wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>[email protected] Bazaar wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><strong><em></em></strong></p><p>I'm confused... how did your sub price go up $3 per month?</p></blockquote><p>I didnt see any price raises.  Maybe i missed something?</p></blockquote><p>12-month subs currently pay 11.99/mo. As of right now, there are no published discounts for multi-month memberships under the new plan.</p></blockquote><p>The 12 month sub is $9.99 a month if you pay the $120.THe prices went down after the hack on SOE earlier this year.I just subbed for a 12mo. a couple days ago for $120 and from everything I've read your plan and time carries over to the new EQ2.Plus you get the 500 sc a mo.</p>

ranlaen
11-16-2011, 10:45 AM
<p><cite>Detor wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>If you bought game cards at Walmart you already got 500 bonus station cash, so it isn't entirely 'out there' for them to give the same thing for direct subscribers via credit card.</p></blockquote><p>this.its already happening anyhow</p>

agentsix
11-16-2011, 11:10 AM
<p><cite>ranlaen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Detor wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>If you bought game cards at Walmart you already got 500 bonus station cash, so it isn't entirely 'out there' for them to give the same thing for direct subscribers via credit card.</p></blockquote><p>this.its already happening anyhow</p></blockquote><p>True but its actually different.</p><p>Walmart was paying $15 for a month sub and getting 500 SC as a bonus.</p><p>Now with SoE giving the 500, I can buy a 12 month sub for $10 per month (which I just did) and get 500 SC as a bonus.</p><p>Perhaps that will change after the F2P conversion. Maybe you won't get a discount for buying 12 months at once. But right now you can and it has been confirmed that a current Live will be converted to Gold and the 500 SC will be issued per month.</p><p>tl:dr With SoE giving the 500 SC I can save up to $5 per month.</p>

Maisland
11-16-2011, 06:31 PM
<p><cite>Wingrider01 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>dawy wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Wondering if you can clear something up,my kids have subbed for years without a break will they now have to pay for the Freeblood's?</p><p>I seem to find a differing answer with every post lol,</p><p>Hope you good chaps can clarify it for them</p></blockquote><p>freebloods for longtime subscribers where given via the velious winter rewards program, if they where subscribed during that program they got the race, other then that it has to be purchased.</p></blockquote><p>They were only free if you also purchased DOV.  If you did not purchase DOV, they are not free.  I think that bonus is good as long as you purchase DOV during 2011, so you could theoretically still get them "free" if you buy DOV before the end of the year.</p>