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Oobo
09-12-2011, 09:28 AM
<p>Ok Exile faction NEEDS to be able to earn PVP writs and fame, this whole BS about them NOT giving writ updates is <strong>[I respect the forum filter]</strong> and needs fixed...EQ1 had FFA pvp and the same needs to be in EQ2. not being able to earn PVP writs and or fame while Exile makes no sense and it never did, let the players play where they wanna play and earn the same stuff...</p>

Fanatical
09-12-2011, 10:20 AM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Ok Exile faction NEEDS to be able to earn PVP writs and fame, this whole BS about them NOT giving writ updates is  and needs fixed...EQ1 had FFA pvp and the same needs to be in EQ2. not being able to earn PVP writs and or fame while Exile makes no sense and it never did, let the players play where they wanna play and earn the same stuff...</p></blockquote><p>Can't believe im agreeing with Ooobo but, this please. </p><p>Being exile is the most fun ive had on this server in SF and now.  The "we don't intend it to be a faction" excuse makes little sense considering SoE put a guild regristrar, banker, mender, and the ability to have a guild hall in exile.</p>

surrena
09-12-2011, 11:13 AM
<p>agreed</p>

Agonee
09-12-2011, 12:57 PM
<p><span style="color: #00ff00;">I agree. It would be nice to see if it was actually put in.</span></p>

Proud_Silence
09-12-2011, 01:37 PM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Ok Exile faction NEEDS to be able to earn PVP writs and fame, this whole BS about them NOT giving writ updates is and needs fixed...EQ1 had FFA pvp and the same needs to be in EQ2. not being able to earn PVP writs and or fame while Exile makes no sense and it never did, let the players play where they wanna play and earn the same stuff...</p></blockquote><p>Can't believe im agreeing with Ooobo but, this please. </p><p>Being exile is the most fun ive had on this server in SF and now.  T<strong>he "we don't intend it to be a faction" excuse makes little sense considering SoE put a guild regristrar, banker, mender, and the ability to have a guild hall in exile.</strong></p></blockquote><p>You're right, they should take away all that so these posts stop poping up. You weaksauce faction hoppers. When your precious exile stops beeing "fun" you just hop to whichever faction offers most advantage, just like all the exiles did before. Bunch of whiney little benches</p><p>for years these posts keep spawning from the inbreds of hell, just stop already. </p><p>Want writs and fame = join a faction</p><p>Want unlimited pvp targets = join team mudhole and embrace being a filthy outcast that deserve NO fame.</p>

Balrok
09-12-2011, 02:15 PM
<p>Hate to ruin your attempt at raging or flaming the exiles.. but the OP is talking about getting fame, writ updates, kill counts for killing an exile.  This is your faction peps crying, not exiles.  I could care less for writs and fame... I exile for targets and to kill my guildmates.</p><p>BUT... I've already been reported a few times cause people are not getting credit/fame when they kill me.  I don't want to get banned cause SoE is to dumb to know what they did.  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/e8a506dc4ad763aca51bec4ca7dc8560.gif" border="0" /></p>

Oobo
09-12-2011, 02:56 PM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Hate to ruin your attempt at raging or flaming the exiles.. but the OP is talking about getting fame, writ updates, kill counts for killing an exile.  This is your faction peps crying, not exiles.  I could care less for writs and fame... I exile for targets and to kill my guildmates.</p><p>BUT... I've already been reported a few times cause people are not getting credit/fame when they kill me.  I don't want to get banned cause SoE is to dumb to know what they did.  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/e8a506dc4ad763aca51bec4ca7dc8560.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>I love you Exur and i DO agree that Factions SHOULD get updates off exiles, but NO MY POST is me saying in EXILE we should get pvp Writs and Updates... we want Exile to be a FFA pvp faction with the SAME benefits as Qeynos or Freeport has with Fame, Writs and Faction building with Discord...</p>

Balrok
09-12-2011, 03:50 PM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>but NO MY POST is me saying in EXILE we should get pvp Writs and Updates... we want Exile to be a FFA pvp faction with the SAME benefits as Qeynos or Freeport has with Fame, Writs and Faction building with Discord...</p></blockquote><p>Good luck with that 10 year crusade. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/e8a506dc4ad763aca51bec4ca7dc8560.gif" border="0" /></p>

Oobo
09-12-2011, 04:03 PM
<p>ya sad but true..=( but omg it would rock</p>

Sprin
09-12-2011, 06:56 PM
<p>No, what needs to happen is faction needs to get updates / fame off exiles and the "hard core" exiles need to stay as they are, no updates, no fame, nothing... cuz if they are so "hard core" they dont need that stuff, they would PVP just to PVP...</p>

Ayaka
09-12-2011, 07:08 PM
<p>What I'd like to see is kill count still increasing when you kill another player while in exile. I've heard that at the moment only deaths are "logged", so basically while you're in exile, you'd remain on a 50+ Death streak even when you kill someone. Basically it was a former bug that <em>eventually</em> was fixed after a month or two of only deaths being logged, even when you were a faction player (so basically everyone's achievement book for Player's Killed shows 1-5k+ more kills than their actual statistics show).</p><p>( <strong>/PvP</strong> in-game )</p>

Ryft
09-12-2011, 08:37 PM
They need to change it back so you lose masters when you go back from exile to faction and bring back exile pvp, ie. /pvp counts for kills and you get chests when you kill ppl. I think doing this will stop all the hopping between factions and will allow those who enjoy exile pvp to enjoy it once again. this current system is garbage.

Sprin
09-12-2011, 09:28 PM
<p><cite>Ryft wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>They need to change it back so you lose masters when you go back from exile to faction and bring back exile pvp, ie. /pvp counts for kills and you get chests when you kill ppl. I think doing this will stop all the hopping between factions and will allow those who enjoy exile pvp to enjoy it once again. this current system is garbage.</blockquote><p>They need to make it so you lose the masters when you exile, not when you come back, if you want to exile, and be "hard core" then be "hard core" and stop getting everything handed to you...</p>

Balrok
09-12-2011, 11:05 PM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>No, what needs to happen is faction needs to get updates / fame off exiles and the "hard core" exiles need to stay as they are, no updates, no fame, nothing... cuz if they are so "hard core" they dont need that stuff, they would PVP just to PVP...</p></blockquote><p>Right, what I said.</p>

Twinbladed
09-13-2011, 01:06 PM
<p><cite>Proud_Silence wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Ok Exile faction NEEDS to be able to earn PVP writs and fame, this whole BS about them NOT giving writ updates is and needs fixed...EQ1 had FFA pvp and the same needs to be in EQ2. not being able to earn PVP writs and or fame while Exile makes no sense and it never did, let the players play where they wanna play and earn the same stuff...</p></blockquote><p>Can't believe im agreeing with Ooobo but, this please. </p><p>Being exile is the most fun ive had on this server in SF and now.  T<strong>he "we don't intend it to be a faction" excuse makes little sense considering SoE put a guild regristrar, banker, mender, and the ability to have a guild hall in exile.</strong></p></blockquote><p>You're right, they should take away all that so these posts stop poping up. You weaksauce faction hoppers. When your precious exile stops beeing "fun" you just hop to whichever faction offers most advantage, just like all the exiles did before. Bunch of whiney little benches</p><p>for years these posts keep spawning from the inbreds of hell, just stop already. </p><p>Want writs and fame = join a faction</p><p>Want unlimited pvp targets = join team mudhole and embrace being a filthy outcast that deserve NO fame.</p></blockquote><p>Not sure what ship you fell off of, but last time I checked if you work for it, you should get it. What does a faction have to do with pvp? Explain, you can pvp solo, in a group or in a raid. Bring up factions, I don't even see that much pvp going on for you to be able to hold on to the faction idea.  Yeah you get more tagerts, but you also take a higher chance. What advantage do they have that you don't. The only thing I got out of your entire post is you flaming and calling people names threw the forum, at least they have a reasonable post, your post has 0 logic to it. </p>

Crismorn
09-13-2011, 02:48 PM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>No, what needs to happen is faction needs to get updates / fame off exiles and the "hard core" exiles need to stay as they are, no updates, no fame, nothing... cuz if they are so "hard core" they dont need that stuff, they would PVP just to PVP...</p></blockquote><p>So we win and get nothing, but if you win then you get rewards?</p><p>Terrible idea.</p>

Chunkaliscious
09-13-2011, 03:39 PM
<p><cite>Crismorn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>No, what needs to happen is faction needs to get updates / fame off exiles and the "hard core" exiles need to stay as they are, no updates, no fame, nothing... cuz if they are so "hard core" they dont need that stuff, they would PVP just to PVP...</p></blockquote><p>So we win and get nothing, but if you win then you get rewards?</p><p>Terrible idea.</p></blockquote><p>+1 to Ghetto's Idea</p><p>Yes we should get updates and rewards off of exiles and they should get squat.  If you want rewards then join a faction and reap the benefits.  As Ghetto said if you are such a "hard core" pvper then you don't need rewards /  benefits to make you engage in pvp.  If you are "hard core" then don't you pvp just for the sake of pvp?</p><p>I would suspect the majority of the people but not all people complaining to get rewards while in exile status are the same people that are faction hopping every other week.  They are the people that are trying to earn rewards faster / easier than anyone else.</p>

Crismorn
09-13-2011, 03:50 PM
<p>You are right I do not need rewards, but I have zero interest in being punished for being better at this game then you are.</p>

Crismorn
09-13-2011, 03:52 PM
<p>Give exiles kill count and keep the current no faction gain/loss as is</p>

Chunkaliscious
09-13-2011, 04:01 PM
<p><cite>Crismorn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><span >You are right I do not need rewards, but I have zero interest in being punished for being better at this game then you are.</span></p><p>Give exiles kill count and keep the current no faction gain/loss as is</p></blockquote><p>So you may not need a "reward" but you do want something for just pvping for the sake of pvping.  I guess being better isn't enough.</p>

Crismorn
09-13-2011, 04:09 PM
<p><cite>Chunkaliscious wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Crismorn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><span>You are right I do not need rewards, but I have zero interest in being punished for being better at this game then you are.</span></p><p>Give exiles kill count and keep the current no faction gain/loss as is</p></blockquote><p>So you may not need a "reward" but you do want something for just pvping for the sake of pvping.  I guess being better isn't enough.</p></blockquote><p>I'm sorry but even if I continue winning 90% of my fights I will gain nothing, but when I die you gain rewards?</p><p>That is a dumb idea from someone who knows they are inferior</p>

Vlahkmaak
09-13-2011, 04:54 PM
<p>Exiles have always been a third faction on PVP servers whether or not that was an intended outcome or not is irrelevant.  Exiles as a faction are as analogous as "we will never implement beastlords," "we cannot allow templars in freeport nor defiliers in Qeynos due to game mechanics reasons on the PVP servers," "cross faction communication will not be allowed," etc., etc., el etc.  To argue only factions should recieve updates or only exiles should recieve kill count updates are both childish arguements in nature and do nothing to help our server health. </p><p>Darn the torpedoes, make exiles a faction already.  Allowing a third faction on the PVP server has always been healthy for the game and should increase subscritions I would bet as it allows more options for players.   Yes, inevitably we will see in chat, "its only the exiles helping their Q friends again."  Were it not for those very exiles though that were momentarily in Freeport Freeport would have remained under the crushing weight of the full Q zerg herd for the entirety of this expansion.  Remember the first 2+ months of going to Warfields and doing a "/" command to find yourself one of six to twelve Freeportians trying to get any update against the seemingly endless horde of Q's? </p><p>In my opinion Exiles have always been a welcome and unpredictable addition to any WF or open world enviornmnet.  As I have said in the past this is a PVP server and player option should be maximized to the fullest extent possible.  Haven is set up as a faction.  It has pretty much everything it needs to function as a faction EXCEPT a PVP writ agent.  Add Argosian Discord Faction, an Argosian PVP writ merchant, and an Argosian PVP armor merchant.  Those three things, which should be easy to slide in between whatever wood grain plank shading update and new crap being added to the SC merchant currently being imposed on you by the bean counters above your pay grade should make Nagafen a much more enjoyable place for all THREE factions.</p>

Balrok
09-13-2011, 05:09 PM
<p>Kill counts are just for people who think that numbers mean something.  How your name is received throughout Norrath is the only thing that matters.  Change nothing... I don't care or request anything.  But if you want a reward for killing me while Exile, petition or feedback it.  Go nuts, as I want you to enjoy the game and continue to PvP!</p><p>Exile faction is amazingly fun.  If you let go of needing to always have a reward, you'll enjoy PvP 10x more and will rage less.  A FFA server is a dream that becomes a reality when you Exile.  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/e8a506dc4ad763aca51bec4ca7dc8560.gif" border="0" /></p>

Twinbladed
09-13-2011, 05:15 PM
<p>Someone explain how exiles have easymode? How many forums do I have to read or go threw and see more an more idea to kill pvp instead of get more of it. I hate the pvp population it's horrible, and I refuse to spend all day going to a wf all the time with 9million other people who only come out to pvp because they know they will get free tokens, then they leave 45 minutes later. That's not pvp. There is 0 benefit to a faction as long as there's bells,druid rings,and wizzy portals. You don't even need a guild to get around anymore. The only benefit to that is a 15 minute call back. Which in any case you can always find your local evac point an take the bell to moors an have anything you need. Exile is a faction, go into your persona window and look under the tab that says CITY FACTIONS. If you think they have oneup on you for being exile explain it, I don't see it. If your trying to bring some kind of real life into it, then look at<span style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"><span style="line-height: 19px;"><strong> </strong></span></span><span style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px;">Napoleon Bonaparte. He exiled came back an didnt lose anything. Promote Pvp don't destroy it.</span></p>

Crismorn
09-13-2011, 05:26 PM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Kill counts are just for people who think that numbers mean something.  How your name is received throughout Norrath is the only thing that matters.  Change nothing... I don't care or request anything.  But if you want a reward for killing me while Exile, petition or feedback it.  Go nuts, as I want you to enjoy the game and continue to PvP!</p><p>Exile faction is amazingly fun.  If you let go of needing to always have a reward, you'll enjoy PvP 10x more and will rage less.  A FFA server is a dream that becomes a reality when you Exile.  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/e8a506dc4ad763aca51bec4ca7dc8560.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>I'm ok with getting nothing at all for winning, but I'm NOT ok with others getting rewards for defeating me.</p><p>Should stay as is OR we gain/lose fame/updates.</p><p>Not the worst of both</p>

Balrok
09-13-2011, 05:34 PM
<p><cite>Crismorn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I'm ok with getting nothing at all for winning, but I'm NOT ok with others getting rewards for defeating me.</p></blockquote><p>Don't die...</p><p>But seriously, what does it matter to you if someone gets a reward or not?  You want them to hunt you down, right?  Otherwise there is no incentive for factions to come out to try and kill you, cause "most of them" need rewards to PvP.</p>

Crismorn
09-13-2011, 05:44 PM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Crismorn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I'm ok with getting nothing at all for winning, but I'm NOT ok with others getting rewards for defeating me.</p></blockquote><p>Don't die...</p><p>But seriously, what does it matter to you if someone gets a reward or not?  You want them to hunt you down, right?  Otherwise there is no incentive for factions to come out to try and kill you, cause "most of them" need rewards to PvP.</p></blockquote><p>No one should get pvp rewards for killing me unless I get pvp rewards for killing them, or else they can just zerg with no care for failure because failure no longer exists for them, its either win or do over for them.</p>

Balrok
09-13-2011, 06:32 PM
<p>Right.. that's how Faction vs Faction works.  Exile is not that atm.  Whatever is fine with me... just think Factions will need rewards to even bother fighting Exiles.  Exiles fight to fight... doesn't really matter.  Priority goes to Faction on this one.  But I'm all for making Exile a 3rd faction... just won't happen till Beastlords fly.</p>

Crismorn
09-13-2011, 06:37 PM
<p>They fight us constantly as is because we can't take their precious fame, even title huggers like to experience a fight they could possibly lose once in awhile as long as they can't actually lose of course.</p>

Sprin
09-14-2011, 01:58 PM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Crismorn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I'm ok with getting nothing at all for winning, but I'm NOT ok with others getting rewards for defeating me.</p></blockquote><p>Don't die...</p><p>But seriously, what does it matter to you if someone gets a reward or not?  You want them to hunt you down, right?  Otherwise there is no incentive for factions to come out to try and kill you, cause "most of them" need rewards to PvP.</p></blockquote><p>OMG dude, dont act all high and mighty as if you never wanted rewards for PVP'ng... you just went to exile now because you already have ALL the rewards offered.. and I am willing to bet my entire life savings and the lives of all my children that if they release new PVP weapons / jewelry / armor / etc etc you and 100% of your "hard core, need no rewards for PVP" guild mates will go right back to whatever faction happened to be most advantageous to get those new items.. </p><p>So dont try and act as if people who dont have all the gear are somehow "inferior" to you because they "need a reward to PVP" you just already have all the rewards... because you "needed a reward" a few months ago and got them already..</p><p>Hypocrite</p><p>How about you take off all your PVP faction gear, and all your blue adorns, because those are "rewards" for pvp which you obviously dont need, right?  Go ahead... yeah, thats what I thought...</p><p>LOL you sound like a broken Exile record... the typical "we are hardcore and dont need rewards to PVP" when 100% of exiles in 100% of all of time previous to this did so because either A: It was easier to get the gear, or B: they already had the gear... just like you... </p><p>Blah blah blah blah... no wonder nobody but exiles ever support putting exiles as a 3rd faction, because nothing but a bunch of losers there... You guys kick your own aces in your request for your own faction... Insult everyone else on the server, and then ask those people to support your cause.. not gonna lie... kinda Re-Re TBH...</p><p>You Displaced people only went exile now because you have your gear and know that Titles are rediculous to try to keep if you are gonna PVP on a regular basis, so they aren't really worth worrying about anymore...</p>

Balrok
09-14-2011, 02:23 PM
<p>Stop trolling... you sound like a idiot.  Everyone that has any commen sense knows exactly where I came from with gear rewards and where I'm going now in exile.  Let's review what I've stated:</p><p>1.  I don't need a kill count number in Exile.2.  I don't need faction or rewards in Exile anymore.3.  I don't need fame rewards in Exile.4.  I don't need desire anything more in Exile.  5.  I want factions to get credit for killing an Exile.6.  I don't care if people exile or not, stay faction if you want.  Exile is fun for me.7.  Will I come back for future rewards?  Of course, don't be dumb and imply that I'm saying I wouldn't.8.  Who has recently stated Exile was "hardmode"?  I never said I was trying to play "hardmode", did I?  No one is stating or cliaming that.  It's a FFA environment and that's what people should recognize.  Get your rewards/gear and exile if you want.. your call.</p><p>I have my gear and Exiled for more entertainment/targets.  If they want to make Exile a 3rd faction, great.. but they won't.  I want factions to "want" to fight/kill me, so that means give them rewards... I don't care, just don't rage quit and not try.</p><p>again... stop trolling and failing.  Go away already, you don't PvP.</p>

Balrok
09-14-2011, 02:29 PM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Otherwise there is no incentive for factions to come out to try and kill you, cause "most of them" <strong>need rewards to PvP</strong>.</p></blockquote><p>OMG dude, dont act all high and mighty as if you never wanted rewards for PVP'ng...</p></blockquote><p>Read it how I intended it.  Most faction are PvP'ing cause they need rewards to PvP better.  No rewards = no incentive.  I'm suggesting SoE give them rewards for killing Exile.</p>

Darkmantis
09-14-2011, 02:37 PM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Crismorn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I'm ok with getting nothing at all for winning, but I'm NOT ok with others getting rewards for defeating me.</p></blockquote><p>Don't die...</p><p>But seriously, what does it matter to you if someone gets a reward or not?  You want them to hunt you down, right?  Otherwise there is no incentive for factions to come out to try and kill you, cause "most of them" need rewards to PvP.</p></blockquote><p>OMG dude, dont act all high and mighty as if you never wanted rewards for PVP'ng... you just went to exile now because you already have ALL the rewards offered.. and I am willing to bet my entire life savings and the lives of all my children that if they release new PVP weapons / jewelry / armor / etc etc you and 100% of your "hard core, need no rewards for PVP" guild mates will go right back to whatever faction happened to be most advantageous to get those new items.. </p><p>So dont try and act as if people who dont have all the gear are somehow "inferior" to you because they "need a reward to PVP" you just already have all the rewards... because you "needed a reward" a few months ago and got them already..</p><p>Hypocrite</p><p>How about you take off all your PVP faction gear, and all your blue adorns, because those are "rewards" for pvp which you obviously dont need, right?  Go ahead... yeah, thats what I thought...</p><p>LOL you sound like a broken Exile record... the typical "we are hardcore and dont need rewards to PVP" when 100% of exiles in 100% of all of time previous to this did so because either A: It was easier to get the gear, or B: they already had the gear... just like you... </p><p>Blah blah blah blah... no wonder nobody but exiles ever support putting exiles as a 3rd faction, because nothing but a bunch of losers there... You guys kick your own aces in your request for your own faction... Insult everyone else on the server, and then ask those people to support your cause.. not gonna lie... kinda Re-Re TBH...</p><p>You Displaced people only went exile now because you have your gear and know that Titles are rediculous to try to keep if you are gonna PVP on a regular basis, so they aren't really worth worrying about anymore...</p></blockquote><p>Gonna sound like a broken record since exur beat me to the post but!</p><p>To clear a couple of things up incase exurs post didnt sink in your small troll-brain</p><p>Displaced went exile for more pvp targets.</p><p>We only go to faction to gear new or returning members up so they dont get one shoted.</p><p>Also, We dont need the concept of rewards to keep pvping, we pvp becuase its fun and interesting. By all means yes, we need rewards short term in order to pvp. But once members are geared we will not stop pvping rather killcount is gone, no writs, titles etc etc..</p><p>So in short to say that we could care less about rewards...yes we could careless if we have 50,000+ kills on the nagafen pvp leaderboards, could care less about winning a warfeild for some tokens/faction, could careless about titles, and really dont care about writs either.</p><p>However, i am all for 3rd faction in order to promote pvp as an FFA choice.</p><p>One more thing Ghetto! why do you even post on these boards honestly,</p>

Oobo
09-14-2011, 04:42 PM
<p>Ghetto stop trolling and get off the forums, your opinion is pointless cause all you do is constantly post negative crap about a game you CLAIM you don't play any longer...Now onto the subject at hand...</p><p>Exile NEEDS to be a faction in a sense that it needs to earn Titles, PVP Writs and Faction to encourage a NEW and much wanted pvp play style and to try and get some NEW blood to the game and a more hardcore style play..There is NO REASON what so ever exile should not be a alternate play style with the ability to EARN PVP writs, Faction and Fame..But they also MUST risk the same as any other faction, even against other Exiles..</p><p>Now the ONLY thing i see that needs to be removed is being able to fight in Haven and the reason i say this is its another form of pvp instance so to speak that ONLY Exiles can attend, this got WAY out of hand back in the day with Exile killing each other over and over and over for hours fluffing kill counts while not losing anything...So Haven needs to be a NO ATK zone or a anyone can zone into zone..PVP should always be in the open world...</p>

Sprin
09-14-2011, 05:35 PM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Crismorn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I'm ok with getting nothing at all for winning, but I'm NOT ok with others getting rewards for defeating me.</p></blockquote><p>Don't die...</p><p>But seriously, what does it matter to you if someone gets a reward or not?  You want them to hunt you down, right?  Otherwise there is no incentive for factions to come out to try and kill you, cause "most of them" need rewards to PvP.</p></blockquote><p>OMG dude, dont act all high and mighty as if you never wanted rewards for PVP'ng... you just went to exile now because you already have ALL the rewards offered.. and I am willing to bet my entire life savings and the lives of all my children that if they release new PVP weapons / jewelry / armor / etc etc you and 100% of your "hard core, need no rewards for PVP" guild mates will go right back to whatever faction happened to be most advantageous to get those new items.. </p><p>So dont try and act as if people who dont have all the gear are somehow "inferior" to you because they "need a reward to PVP" you just already have all the rewards... because you "needed a reward" a few months ago and got them already..</p><p>Hypocrite</p><p>How about you take off all your PVP faction gear, and all your blue adorns, because those are "rewards" for pvp which you obviously dont need, right?  Go ahead... yeah, thats what I thought...</p><p>LOL you sound like a broken Exile record... the typical "we are hardcore and dont need rewards to PVP" when 100% of exiles in 100% of all of time previous to this did so because either A: It was easier to get the gear, or B: they already had the gear... just like you... </p><p>Blah blah blah blah... no wonder nobody but exiles ever support putting exiles as a 3rd faction, because nothing but a bunch of losers there... You guys kick your own aces in your request for your own faction... Insult everyone else on the server, and then ask those people to support your cause.. not gonna lie... kinda Re-Re TBH...</p><p>You Displaced people only went exile now because you have your gear and know that Titles are rediculous to try to keep if you are gonna PVP on a regular basis, so they aren't really worth worrying about anymore...</p></blockquote><p>Gonna sound like a broken record since exur beat me to the post but!</p><p>To clear a couple of things up incase exurs post didnt sink in your small troll-brain</p><p>Displaced went exile for more pvp targets.</p><p>We only go to faction to gear new or returning members up so they dont get one shoted.</p><p>Also, We dont need the concept of rewards to keep pvping, we pvp becuase its fun and interesting. By all means yes, we need rewards short term in order to pvp. But once members are geared we will not stop pvping rather killcount is gone, no writs, titles etc etc..</p><p>So in short to say that we could care less about rewards...yes we could careless if we have 50,000+ kills on the nagafen pvp leaderboards, could care less about winning a warfeild for some tokens/faction, could careless about titles, and really dont care about writs either.</p><p>However, i am all for 3rd faction in order to promote pvp as an FFA choice.</p><p>One more thing Ghetto! why do you even post on these boards honestly,</p></blockquote><p>I don't doubt you went over for more targets, but lets call it like it is... you already recieved all the rewards that you can possibly need... in the form of full gear and probably several thousand PVP tokens for future gear... so dont pretend you don't PVP for rewards, because you did... you just dont need anymore rewards... and if there were more PVP rewards to get and you didn't have endless PVP tokens to insta-purchase them from PVP'ng in the past for rewards, you would swap to a faction to get those rewards...</p><p>So get off the high horse and stop pretending you are "hard core" and dont PVP for rewards... everyone knows its B S</p><p>Like I said, if you dont need PVP rewards, take off all your gear... blue adorns and wear nothing you recieved from PVP as a reward...</p><p>One more thing Dantiss, just because I also post on PVP boards am I supposed to swap my accounts personae back and forth to the name someone might recognize every time I post in a different section on the EQ forums?   I have 7, almost 8 90's, and two 70's, along with another few lower alts..... Am I supposed to read what other people are posting and swap my personae to the toon people are most likely to recognize in that particular forum? </p><p>Its not my fault you guys are like high schoolers and have to have recognition for everything you do and say and are attention whoores...   Im guessing you guys would probably swap on every post if it meant you got your "elite" name out...  I'm not in gradeschool, so I couldn't care less...</p><p>If you really want to know what my T9 PVP toon is it would take you about 2 minutes to figure it out, but I suspect all your guys' ADHD would prevent that...</p>

Sprin
09-14-2011, 06:22 PM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Ghetto stop trolling and get off the forums, your opinion is pointless cause all you do is constantly post negative crap about a game you CLAIM you don't play any longer...Now onto the subject at hand...</p><p>Exile NEEDS to be a faction in a sense that it needs to earn Titles, PVP Writs and Faction to encourage a NEW and much wanted pvp play style and to try and get some NEW blood to the game and a more hardcore style play..There is NO REASON what so ever exile should not be a alternate play style with the ability to EARN PVP writs, Faction and Fame..But they also MUST risk the same as any other faction, even against other Exiles..</p><p>Now the ONLY thing i see that needs to be removed is being able to fight in Haven and the reason i say this is its another form of pvp instance so to speak that ONLY Exiles can attend, this got WAY out of hand back in the day with Exile killing each other over and over and over for hours fluffing kill counts while not losing anything...So Haven needs to be a NO ATK zone or a anyone can zone into zone..PVP should always be in the open world...</p></blockquote><p>LOL @ Oboo pretending he cares about exile... Breh, you got more flip flopping characters then they got on all the beaches in California...   You swap factions whenever you see another faction have advantage a WF's so you can get EZ mode updates.....  its just too bad SOE took away the punishments of swapping faction... More bandwagoneers like you swap back and forth to EZ mode WF updates, no wonder people are going Exile to actually get some targets.....</p><p>As soon as you stay on one faction or another for more then a couple days, come back on here and anything you say may have some relevance, but as long as you flop back and forth 20 times a month... gtho</p>

Oobo
09-14-2011, 06:41 PM
<p>flip flopping? LOL kid i have toons in all factions and i play to pvp, so Exile being FFa with writs and fame is a WIN WIN for pvp and TRUE pvpers...</p>

Sprin
09-14-2011, 08:08 PM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>flip flopping? LOL kid i have toons in all factions and i play to pvp, so Exile being FFa with writs and fame is a WIN WIN for pvp and TRUE pvpers...</p></blockquote><p><span ></span></p><p>1315767290)[Sun Sep 11 11:54:50 2011] aPC -1 Oobo:Oobo/a tells Level_1-9 (1), "WHATS UP QEYNOS"</p><p>(1315767302)[Sun Sep 11 11:55:02 2011] You tell Level_1-9 (1), "Weren't you just freep?"</p><p>(1315767322)[Sun Sep 11 11:55:22 2011] aPC -1 Oobo:Oobo/a tells Level_1-9 (1), "hehe ya i was"</p><p><span ><p>(1315767332)[Sun Sep 11 11:55:32 2011] You tell Level_1-9 (1), "Can you go back please?"</p><p>Cuz I was bored and you are a flip flopping junker....  go find ez mode updates with the faction that has the most toons you can get lost in and do some blue AOE's, please, thanks, bye...</p></span></p>

Oobo
09-14-2011, 08:14 PM
<p>I'm sorry did i confuse u? toons in ALLLLLL factions Re-Re... And at least i play the game im trying to fix unlike you who CLAIM to have quit a while back yet cant STOP coming to the forums derailing threads and spreading your END IS NEAR speech =(</p><p>and goof, Qeynos atm has the least pvpers...</p>

Sprin
09-14-2011, 08:18 PM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I'm sorry did i confuse u? toons in ALLLLLL factions Re-Re... And at least i play the game im trying to fix unlike you who CLAIM to have quit a while back yet cant STOP coming to the forums derailing threads and spreading your END IS NEAR speech =(</p><p>and goof, Qeynos atm has the least pvpers...</p></blockquote><p>Im sorry, did I confuse u?  You flip flop your toons back and forth to all factions depending on what is the easiest to get free tokens in... as you did with your toon Oobo, as stated above... as you do with all your toons...</p><p>Here found some more:</p><p><span ><p>(1315771455)[Sun Sep 11 13:04:15 2011] aPC -1 Oobo:Oobo/a tells Level_1-9 (1), "0MFG WHY am i so sexy"</p></span></p><p><span ><p>(1315771794)[Sun Sep 11 13:09:54 2011] Added ignore: Oobo</p><p>Wish I could do that on these forums...</p></span></p>

Darkmantis
09-14-2011, 09:22 PM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Crismorn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I'm ok with getting nothing at all for winning, but I'm NOT ok with others getting rewards for defeating me.</p></blockquote><p>Don't die...</p><p>But seriously, what does it matter to you if someone gets a reward or not?  You want them to hunt you down, right?  Otherwise there is no incentive for factions to come out to try and kill you, cause "most of them" need rewards to PvP.</p></blockquote><p>OMG dude, dont act all high and mighty as if you never wanted rewards for PVP'ng... you just went to exile now because you already have ALL the rewards offered.. and I am willing to bet my entire life savings and the lives of all my children that if they release new PVP weapons / jewelry / armor / etc etc you and 100% of your "hard core, need no rewards for PVP" guild mates will go right back to whatever faction happened to be most advantageous to get those new items.. </p><p>So dont try and act as if people who dont have all the gear are somehow "inferior" to you because they "need a reward to PVP" you just already have all the rewards... because you "needed a reward" a few months ago and got them already..</p><p>Hypocrite</p><p>How about you take off all your PVP faction gear, and all your blue adorns, because those are "rewards" for pvp which you obviously dont need, right?  Go ahead... yeah, thats what I thought...</p><p>LOL you sound like a broken Exile record... the typical "we are hardcore and dont need rewards to PVP" when 100% of exiles in 100% of all of time previous to this did so because either A: It was easier to get the gear, or B: they already had the gear... just like you... </p><p>Blah blah blah blah... no wonder nobody but exiles ever support putting exiles as a 3rd faction, because nothing but a bunch of losers there... You guys kick your own aces in your request for your own faction... Insult everyone else on the server, and then ask those people to support your cause.. not gonna lie... kinda Re-Re TBH...</p><p>You Displaced people only went exile now because you have your gear and know that Titles are rediculous to try to keep if you are gonna PVP on a regular basis, so they aren't really worth worrying about anymore...</p></blockquote><p>Gonna sound like a broken record since exur beat me to the post but!</p><p>To clear a couple of things up incase exurs post didnt sink in your small troll-brain</p><p>Displaced went exile for more pvp targets.</p><p>We only go to faction to gear new or returning members up so they dont get one shoted.</p><p>Also, We dont need the concept of rewards to keep pvping, we pvp becuase its fun and interesting. By all means yes, we need rewards short term in order to pvp. But once members are geared we will not stop pvping rather killcount is gone, no writs, titles etc etc..</p><p>So in short to say that we could care less about rewards...yes we could careless if we have 50,000+ kills on the nagafen pvp leaderboards, could care less about winning a warfeild for some tokens/faction, could careless about titles, and really dont care about writs either.</p><p>However, i am all for 3rd faction in order to promote pvp as an FFA choice.</p><p>One more thing Ghetto! why do you even post on these boards honestly,</p></blockquote><p>I don't doubt you went over for more targets, but lets call it like it is... you already recieved all the rewards that you can possibly need... in the form of full gear and probably several thousand PVP tokens for future gear... so dont pretend you don't PVP for rewards, because you did... you just dont need anymore rewards... and if there were more PVP rewards to get and you didn't have endless PVP tokens to insta-purchase them from PVP'ng in the past for rewards, you would swap to a faction to get those rewards...</p><p>So get off the high horse and stop pretending you are "hard core" and dont PVP for rewards... everyone knows its B S</p><p>Like I said, if you dont need PVP rewards, take off all your gear... blue adorns and wear nothing you recieved from PVP as a reward...</p><p>One more thing Dantiss, just because I also post on PVP boards am I supposed to swap my accounts personae back and forth to the name someone might recognize every time I post in a different section on the EQ forums?   I have 7, almost 8 90's, and two 70's, along with another few lower alts..... Am I supposed to read what other people are posting and swap my personae to the toon people are most likely to recognize in that particular forum? </p><p>Its not my fault you guys are like high schoolers and have to have recognition for everything you do and say and are attention whoores...   Im guessing you guys would probably swap on every post if it meant you got your "elite" name out...  I'm not in gradeschool, so I couldn't care less...</p><p>If you really want to know what my T9 PVP toon is it would take you about 2 minutes to figure it out, but I suspect all your guys' ADHD would prevent that...</p></blockquote><p>lol.... your right we went exile for other reasons, and it wasnt for more targets in pvp! you caught us... We actually went hoping our masters would go away so we could be more hardcore in app ones when we came back...But on a serious note when are you going to stop posting on here,</p>

Balrok
09-14-2011, 10:13 PM
<p>tbh... I don't even know what Getto's point is anymore.  No one ever said they "never PvP'ed" for rewards.  The OP wants Exiles to be a 3rd faction... It would be a fun addition, but it won't happen.  Then I chime in and talk about how it doesn't matter, cause "I" don't need rewards at the moment or kill count.  AND that I'm OK with giving Faction credit for killing Exiles... cause they need/desire PvP rewards to PvP... which is important for factions to continue fighting Exiles. </p><p>Getto is inserting this "hardmode" word.... no one I know has mentioned it.  We got our rewards to PvP better, desired more targets and Exiled.  Some want kill counts.. some don't.  End of story.</p><p>Troll more and keep replying with whatever you thinks we're talking about.  Having players Exile results in a better and more fun PvP Environment.  That is a proven fact.  Go away already dude. </p><p>ps... Dantiss is by far the best quote response poster I've seen.  That last quote post ate up like 3 pages.</p>

Darkmantis
09-14-2011, 10:34 PM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>tbh... I don't even know what Getto's point is anymore.  No one ever said they "never PvP'ed" for rewards.  The OP wants Exiles to be a 3rd faction... It would be a fun addition, but it won't happen.  Then I chime in and talk about how it doesn't matter, cause "I" don't need rewards at the moment or kill count.  AND that I'm OK with giving Faction credit for killing Exiles... cause they need/desire PvP rewards to PvP... which is important for factions to continue fighting Exiles. </p><p>Getto is inserting this "hardmode" word.... no one I know has mentioned it.  We got our rewards to PvP better, desired more targets and Exiled.  Some want kill counts.. some don't.  End of story.</p><p>Troll more and keep replying with whatever you thinks we're talking about.  Having players Exile results in a better and more fun PvP Environment.  That is a proven fact.  Go away already dude. </p><p>ps... Dantiss is by far the best quote response poster I've seen.  That last quote post ate up like 3 pages.</p></blockquote><p>This! ^^</p>

Twinbladed
09-15-2011, 01:07 AM
<p>Honestly the 3rd faction is there. It should be treated the same. It takes as much risk as it does reward. It's even all the way around. </p><p>There is not enough people pvping right now in order for a third faction to hurt anything. I don't call stacking insane odds in a 45 minute wf accomplished pvp. I think this arguement extend to about that point because half the people who want to talk about pvp don't pvp but in a wf, but they want an opinion. They don't come out solo, but they want to talk about classes verse other classes. Ghetto acts like this is still the time when both sides don't have the same players on it. I hope to see exiles fighting and I do want the plat that drops off people who forget to bank and I'm pretty sure it goes all the way around the board. Come on people get open minded, this isn't EoF anymore.</p>

Sprin
09-15-2011, 07:40 PM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>tbh... I don't even know what Getto's point is anymore.  No one ever said they "never PvP'ed" for rewards.  The OP wants Exiles to be a 3rd faction... It would be a fun addition, but it won't happen.  Then I chime in and talk about how it doesn't matter, cause "I" don't need rewards at the moment or kill count.  AND that I'm OK with giving Faction credit for killing Exiles... cause they need/desire PvP rewards to PvP... which is important for factions to continue fighting Exiles. </p><p>Getto is inserting this "hardmode" word.... no one I know has mentioned it.  We got our rewards to PvP better, desired more targets and Exiled.  Some want kill counts.. some don't.  End of story.</p><p>Troll more and keep replying with whatever you thinks we're talking about.  Having players Exile results in a better and more fun PvP Environment.  That is a proven fact.  Go away already dude. </p><p>ps... Dantiss is by far the best quote response poster I've seen.  That last quote post ate up like 3 pages.</p></blockquote><p>You try and backpedal, but you can't... you claim that faction people need a reward to PVP, implying that because you are exile, you need no reward, the PVP itself is a reward... and I called you on that B S statement, because you already got the reward, and any future reward due to the fact there is no new PVP accessories out currently... but if there ever was to be those release...you would instantly swap back to a faction to get those rewards means that you PVP'ng for no reward is B S... you just already got all the rewards you need for a long time...   You've "stocked up" on rewards...  </p><p>And Dantiss, lol, i'd love to see you leave Haven, or your guild hall without a fully stacked group... I'd just love to see it... but alas, we all know that will never happen... At least Exur USED to go out without one... Although now that he is an "elite" exile, I'm sure he never leaves home without it...   Hell even your healer goes out and solo's sometimes...  you should not puss out so much and actually leave home without that perfect setup...</p>

Darkmantis
09-15-2011, 08:25 PM
<p>Solo pvp is boring, if i wanted to solo id play my ranger but thats to easy mode</p>

Balrok
09-15-2011, 08:42 PM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>you claim that faction people need a reward to PVP, implying that because you are exile, you need no reward, the PVP itself is a reward...  </p></blockquote><p>Read this statement you posted carefully.   This is EXACTLY what I'm claiming.  I've reposted it like 4 times and I'm happy to see you finally got it.  Here, I'll summarized what you just said:</p><p>-Faction people need rewards to PvP.-Exile need no rewards (They have the "equipment" rewards already).-PvP itself is the reward for Exiling.</p><p>This time you implied correctly.</p>

Elwin
09-15-2011, 09:09 PM
<p>The pvpers have said this many times about the pvp and especially exile pvp. Yet SOE continues to kill the pvp population by listening to the people that cry about it and no nothing about mechanics. Tbh I dont need any kind of reward in exile, ffa pvp is good enough for me, but if soe were to give exile fame, kill counts, and possibly adding writs maybe we will actually see more people running around pvping instead of heading out to a Warfield every 2 hours then leaving after it ends and thats it. TBH even in exile my guild has gone out to a warfields and found nothing, thats how bad pvp is right now. All of these changes have basically killed it. The few guilds that are still around trying to bring the pvp back are fed up with it, And Displaced is a very large part of it fyi. But with the direction soe is heading on this server, it will be a wasetland before the next explansion.</p>

Ssue
09-15-2011, 10:51 PM
<p></p><p ><span style="color: #00ccff;">How about we get rid of faction PvP completely! Oh, and the war fields too<span style="mso-spacerun:yes">  </span>We can’t seem to get the balance right, one side always has the advantage.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes">  </span>Make it FFA with current level restriction.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes">  </span>The only ones not attackable are those in your guild, group, or raid.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes">  </span>Allow grouping/raiding regardless of faction as it is on the PvE servers.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes">  </span>Every game on the market (that I am aware of) has this faction based model, can we try something different?</span></p>

Crismorn
09-16-2011, 12:44 AM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>tbh... I don't even know what Getto's point is anymore.  No one ever said they "never PvP'ed" for rewards.  The OP wants Exiles to be a 3rd faction... It would be a fun addition, but it won't happen.  Then I chime in and talk about how it doesn't matter, cause "I" don't need rewards at the moment or kill count.  AND that I'm OK with giving Faction credit for killing Exiles... cause they need/desire PvP rewards to PvP... which is important for factions to continue fighting Exiles. </p><p>Getto is inserting this "hardmode" word.... no one I know has mentioned it.  We got our rewards to PvP better, desired more targets and Exiled.  Some want kill counts.. some don't.  End of story.</p><p>Troll more and keep replying with whatever you thinks we're talking about.  Having players Exile results in a better and more fun PvP Environment.  That is a proven fact.  Go away already dude. </p><p>ps... Dantiss is by far the best quote response poster I've seen.  That last quote post ate up like 3 pages.</p></blockquote><p>You try and backpedal, but you can't... you claim that faction people need a reward to PVP, implying that because you are exile, you need no reward, the PVP itself is a reward... and I called you on that B S statement, because you already got the reward, and any future reward due to the fact there is no new PVP accessories out currently... but if there ever was to be those release...you would instantly swap back to a faction to get those rewards means that you PVP'ng for no reward is B S... you just already got all the rewards you need for a long time...   You've "stocked up" on rewards...  </p><p>And Dantiss, lol, i'd love to see you leave Haven, or your guild hall without a fully stacked group... I'd just love to see it... but alas, we all know that will never happen... At least Exur USED to go out without one... Although now that he is an "elite" exile, I'm sure he never leaves home without it...   Hell even your healer goes out and solo's sometimes...  you should not puss out so much and actually leave home without that perfect setup...</p></blockquote><p>I'm always up for destroying people if you want a 1v1.</p>

Oobo
09-17-2011, 10:40 AM
<p>BOTTOM LINE this is way Exile needs to be...</p><p>1. PVP writs...</p><p>2. PVP faction with Discord...</p><p>3. Updates to everyone including other exiles...</p><p>4. Fame earned and lost to EVERYONE including exiles, no more Exile killing with no risk...</p><p>5. Haven either open to all like every other city or NO PVP zone to prevent exiles from kill count fluffing...</p><p>6. Remove the GOOD/EVIL on old gear so if we choose we may exile lower lvl toons also...</p><p>7. Change Wanted Posters for Exiles from 5 kills at 90 to say 8 kills since we have more targets...</p><p>again there is no reason this should NOT be put in, no reason to alienate a single play stay when so many would LOVE to see exile this way...</p>

Sprin
09-17-2011, 06:57 PM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>BOTTOM LINE this is way Exile needs to be...</p><p>1. PVP writs...</p><p>2. PVP faction with Discord...</p><p><span style="text-decoration: line-through;">3. Updates to everyone including other exiles...</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">Horrible Idea.  </span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">So you want Exile the only "faction" that can kill each other and get rewards for it at the same time? </span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">You will just get endless Exiles killing each other for free writ updates and endless free gear....</span></p><p>4<span style="text-decoration: line-through;">. Fame earned and lost to EVERYONE including exiles, no more Exile killing with no risk...</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">Horrible idea... see point 3 response... 100% of exiles would be running around as Overlord</span></p><p>5. Haven either open to all like every other city or NO PVP zone to prevent exiles from kill count fluffing...</p><p>6. Remove the GOOD/EVIL on old gear so if we choose we may exile lower lvl toons also...</p><p><span style="text-decoration: line-through;">7. Change Wanted Posters for Exiles from 5 kills at 90 to say 8 kills since we have more targets...</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">More targets for exiles means more targets for Freeps and Q's...  provided they can't get updates off themselves</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">and seeing as how if you had the way you wanted it with exiles killing other exiles for updates / fame, you would need to up this number to about 1,000 to get a writ done, since it would just be endless free updates as far as the eye can see...</span></p><p>again there is no reason this should NOT be put in, no reason to alienate a single play stay when so many would LOVE to see exile this way...</p></blockquote><p>You want ALL benefits, including benefits faction players don't get, and ZERO punishment for going exile...</p><p>If you want it a full faction, you need to make it a regular 3rd faction, if not, there has to be some sort of punishment for going exile... and CERTAINLY not free updates from all your friends</p>

Oobo
09-17-2011, 10:18 PM
<p>well hell ya i want Exile to get updates off other exiles, if i kill one i want my [email protected] update lol....as far as your exiles farmign exiles, thats WHY i said NO fightign in Haven or make it an open zone like other cities cause if they are there fighting u can join in....also claimign Exiles would farm Exziles for gear/tokens? Faction do that crap already, from buddies to alt accounts...</p>

Balrok
09-17-2011, 11:57 PM
<p>hate to say it.. but I agree with Getto.</p>