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Guld_Ulrish
07-04-2011, 06:21 AM
<p>Make one!</p>

Crismorn
07-04-2011, 06:24 AM
<p>A server that is only patched to last day of EoF would be amazing</p>

Kimber
07-04-2011, 07:29 AM
<p>I would prefer last day of TSO or last day of ROK but thats just me.</p>

Jacquotte
07-04-2011, 08:11 AM
<p><cite>Guld_Ulrish wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Make one!</p></blockquote><p>i would never look back</p><p>KOS glory days FTW!</p><p>--</p><p>this has been suggested multiple times however, we can always pray <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

Guld_Ulrish
07-04-2011, 08:52 AM
<p>It easy to make one and as u say, it has been suggested like a milion times.</p>

Vaylan77
07-04-2011, 11:54 AM
<p>back to the pvp when kos came out</p>

Kovah
07-05-2011, 03:30 AM
<p>I'd be back in an instant</p>

Jacquotte
07-05-2011, 05:27 AM
<p>it would be amazing...</p><p>oldskool crafting system too, and harvest-rates .. when rares were actually rare and you had the most insane oldskool recipies, attracting crafters, that likes a challenge, to the server too</p><p>what? i like killing people harvesting nodes..</p><p>just gives the server even more of an oldskool feel</p><p>oldskool transport system, yes you would actually have to move around across zones to get anywhere *ghasp!*</p><p>basically make it as it was in feb 2006</p><p>---</p><p>sony might ask, "why T7?"</p><p>because it is the most balanced tier in the game</p><p>and KOS exp. pvp was awesome</p>

Jacquotte
07-05-2011, 05:36 AM
<p>plz let us have our T7 pvp server on the oldskool ruleset!</p><p> and you can keep your broken Nagafen, WF's and BG's - do what you want with it, because those that prefer the old pvp-systems would never look back</p><p>att soe: think about it, you wouldnt have to patch the game or do any other maintance apart from patching the OS and rebooting every other week.</p><p>its ftw!</p>

ysslik
07-05-2011, 10:17 PM
<p>Something very similar was done with eq1.They made a time progresion lock server.Everything is almost like it was when it first started.And the players vote on when to progress to the next exp after the main mob is killed.also in game votes on other stuff as well.</p><p>It can be done.The question is will the hear us and at least look in to it.When it opned they had to open a second one in like 5 hours later it was so popular.</p>

Winter12345
07-06-2011, 01:13 AM
<p><cite>Crismorn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>A server that is only patched to last day of EoF would be amazing</p></blockquote><p>+1 !!!</p>

Sasquatch
07-06-2011, 04:06 AM
Ever since Eq2 pvp came out, pvp is at its worst right now by far, i cant stand live, the only reason im still playing is because of Test Copy. If SoE actually made a server that was only patched to EoF i would take back everything i said and right a love letter instead. SoE this is something you really should consider, save pvp PLEASE!

Jacquotte
07-06-2011, 05:06 AM
<p><cite>Sasquatch wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>Ever since Eq2 pvp came out, pvp is at its worst right now by far, i cant stand live, the only reason im still playing is because of Test Copy. If SoE actually made a server that was only patched to EoF i would take back everything i said and right a love letter instead. SoE this is something you really should consider, save pvp PLEASE!</blockquote><p>a loveletter it would be for sure.. i hope they listen</p>

Jacquotte
07-06-2011, 05:08 AM
<p><cite>ysslik wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Something very similar was done with eq1.They made a time progresion lock server.Everything is almost like it was when it first started.And the players vote on when to progress to the next exp after the main mob is killed.also in game votes on other stuff as well.</p><p>It can be done.The question is will the hear us and at least look in to it.When it opned they had to open a second one in like 5 hours later it was so popular.</p></blockquote><p>a progressive server for PVE purposes would be great, that however is an entirely DIFFERENT subject - and should be a BLUE server</p><p>we are talking about a pvp server that is perma-locked to last day of EOF or KOS for purposes of oldskool PVP only.</p>

Arckon
07-06-2011, 05:27 AM
<p>Kingdom of Sky would be perfect this would balance PVP in the great way we all remember. Achievement points are where it all went wrong as some classes became far to powerful and others where given the shaft. Sony if you want to get your player base back to where it was this is how you do it. Stop giving all the new players from World of Warcraft and Hello Kitty island adventure every nerf they ask for and give something back to the players that have been playing since launch. </p>

Shangu
07-06-2011, 11:08 AM
<p>if this were to happen i would come back to pvp.  i left nagafen within minutes of the server transfer going live.  nagafen in its current state is garbage.</p><p>SOE, make it so!</p>

Jacquotte
07-07-2011, 04:44 AM
<p><cite>Shangu wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>if this were to happen i would come back to pvp.  i left nagafen within minutes of the server transfer going live.  nagafen in its current state is garbage.</p><p>SOE, make it so!</p></blockquote><p>it would be truly amazing.. i know alot of people that would come back too, enjoying what was once the best pvp experience, in any online game, ever</p><p>1. T7 was more balanced</p><p>2. itemization wasn't flawed to the point of 3k autoattacks, endless power, mages/priests with higher-than tank survivability, absurb crit %</p><p>3. the famesystem kept the game interesting and adrenaline-rushed</p><p>4. the amount of zones kept openworld pvp alive</p><p>5. less openworld transportation kept the openworld pvp alive</p><p>6. no absurd run/mount-speed</p><p>the only thing you need to do on this server is to reboot it now and then, how win-win is that, hm? <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /></p>

EQ2Playa432
07-07-2011, 11:09 AM
<p>KoS pvp was the best! I would definitely be part of that again.</p>

Jacquotte
07-08-2011, 04:40 AM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>KoS pvp was the best! I would definitely be part of that again.</p></blockquote><p>hellz yea.. let's bring eq2 to its former glory</p><p>dot it soe, do it!</p>

Arckon
07-08-2011, 11:34 AM
<p>There would have to be some rules with a server like this though. </p><p>1. No transferes into the server</p><p>2. No mounts from vet rewards with insane speed</p><p>3. Old school transport...AKA waiting for the boat at nek docks to get to butcherblock.</p><p>4. No PVP gear, AKA toughness. So raid gear is the best to have. Thats how it should work anyways. If you wanna be the best in PVP you gotta raid.</p><p> FYI</p><p>  Toughness gear was put in the game in order to save the scrub players from getting destryed by people who knew how     to play there class. Now however a scrub player can make a tank put them in all reinforced gear and think there good. If you where to put this same player into KOS days and in full raid armor he would get destroyed by a vet in MC gear.</p>

Magnis
07-08-2011, 12:06 PM
<p>SOE do it, I and many many more would be there in a heart beat. NO BG WF all the recent pvp/bg gear.  JUST MAKE THE SERVER!</p>

Ahlana
07-08-2011, 12:08 PM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>SOE do it, I and many many more would be there in a heart beat. NO BG WF all the recent pvp/bg gear.  JUST MAKE THE SERVER!</p></blockquote><p>I would <3 the crap out of this server.</p>

Guld_Ulrish
07-08-2011, 12:49 PM
<p>This is one of the things that I would return for</p>

Sasquatch
07-09-2011, 08:08 PM
So if any Dev or GM or anyone is reading this thread, please take this into consideration. Just from these few posts you can tell how many ex eq2 players would come back in a heart beat. The game would be back to its glory days where no other game in existence can compare to. Its fairly easy to create and maintain. Maybe I am naive but i don't see any con's with this idea. I could easily right a 10 page report, if its necessary, on the positive effects this will have on SOE and eq2 players. PLEASE read this and atleast think about it and let us know if your even taking this into consideration.

Jacquotte
07-13-2011, 11:29 AM
<p><cite>Sasquatch wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>So if any Dev or GM or anyone is reading this thread, please take this into consideration. Just from these few posts you can tell how many ex eq2 players would come back in a heart beat. The game would be back to its glory days where no other game in existence can compare to. Its fairly easy to create and maintain. Maybe I am naive but i don't see any con's with this idea. I could easily right a 10 page report, if its necessary, on the positive effects this will have on SOE and eq2 players. PLEASE read this and atleast think about it and let us know if your even taking this into consideration.</blockquote><p>QFE</p><p>EQ2pvp really needs this</p>

Chunkaliscious
07-13-2011, 01:44 PM
<p><cite>Arckon wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p> So raid gear is the best to have. Thats how it should work anyways. If you wanna be the best in PVP you gotta raid.</p></blockquote><p>That doesnt even make any sense at all.  Raid gear should be kept to what its designed for, RAIDING. </p><p>What it sounds like is you want you and 23 of your buddies to be completely SAFE while you repeatedly run the same scripted fights over and over again to get the "best" gear.  Then when you get tired of beating on scripted mobs you want to be able to run around and gank people as you please.  Then you can claim how uber you are at pvp and how everyone else is a bunch of scrubby noobs. </p>

Ilovecows
07-13-2011, 05:23 PM
<p>I would like this.</p><p>I only started playing close to the end of EoF so i never played when t7 was the cap.  I hear so much good things about it, but the closest i can get is making a level 70 toon... and that is no where near as close.  hopefully they listen to what apparently so many people are for, and so few are against.</p><p>The only problem i see is Nagafen's poppulation will go down with all the people that will go to this new server <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

Kimber
07-13-2011, 08:30 PM
<p>Raid gear should not be the best gear on a PvP server.  This is why I say put it at TSO or ROK.  The PvP gear at T8 is good stuff class sets and all.  Some of the Legand/Fable drops from Heroic and Raid zones were very desirable in PvP.  Yes Class's were not as balanced as in previous exp but that could be tweeked to make them.</p>

Sasquatch
07-13-2011, 08:30 PM
<p>Good try but no. You can keep your broken dying naggy with absolutely no open world pvp, 130% mount speed, flying/leaping/gliding mounts, and toughness pvp gear. While we enjoy PvP when it was most balanced by far. Also just because you have raid gear doesnt mean a thing in KoS. If a vet in MC goes against someone in raid gear who isnt as experienced in pvp, Vet wins. The state Nagafen is in now is way too far from fixable and is why they should make the t7 KoS pvp server, cant hurt SOE, but will no doubt help them in everyway and bring there player base back.</p>

Kimber
07-14-2011, 01:26 AM
<p>Uhhh who asked for things to stay where they are now?</p>

Ilovecows
07-14-2011, 03:23 AM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Raid gear should not be the best gear on a PvP server.  This is why I say put it at TSO or ROK.  The PvP gear at T8 is good stuff class sets and all.  Some of the Legand/Fable drops from Heroic and Raid zones were very desirable in PvP.  Yes Class's were not as balanced as in previous exp but that could be tweeked to make them.</p></blockquote><p>TSO and ROK were all right, but they were rather gear based.  From what i hear, kos/eof times were more like gear is a bonus to have.  Similarly to what other people have said in this thread.  Being i have heard that from so many people, I assume it to probably be true.</p><p>Anyways, i think i kind of disagree with the whole pvp gear idea.  You don't need to be any good at your class to get pvp tokens.  Raid gear atleast takes work and time to get.  pvp gear just takes time.</p>

Kimber
07-14-2011, 03:40 AM
<p>True you need to be better at your class to get a raid spot than you do to get PvP gear although if you are good at your class you will get your PvP gear allot faster than the guy that is not.  I like the idea of PvP gear just for the simple fact that while I enjoy hitting up Raids every now and then its not why I play the game.  So PvP gear makes sense to me as it puts everyone on equal footing if they are willing to put in some time be it grouped or solo ( but do not have the time to raid )</p><p>As for the balance thing I remember when RoK first came it the running joke was Ever Scout at end game.  So not sure how KoS/EoF was at end game as I was on my 14 day trial when RoK was coming out and just went straight to it with out playing KoS or EoF endgame.  Even with it being called Ever Scout when RoK first came out the only people that were really having any problems were those that well they would not goto a server like we are asking for anyway <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

Ilovecows
07-14-2011, 03:59 AM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>True you need to be better at your class to get a raid spot than you do to get PvP gear although if you are good at your class you will get your PvP gear allot faster than the guy that is not.  I like the idea of PvP gear just for the simple fact that while I enjoy hitting up Raids every now and then its not why I play the game.  So PvP gear makes sense to me as it puts everyone on equal footing if they are willing to put in some time be it grouped or solo ( but do not have the time to raid )</p><p>As for the balance thing I remember when RoK first came it the running joke was Ever Scout at end game.  So not sure how KoS/EoF was at end game as I was on my 14 day trial when RoK was coming out and just went straight to it with out playing KoS or EoF endgame.  Even with it being called Ever Scout when RoK first came out the only people that were really having any problems were those that well they would not goto a server like we are asking for anyway <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>Yeah, i see your point.  Wasn't there pvp gear during EoF though?  That level 65 set?  or did they add that in later?  i'm not sure i think i was only level 20 when EoF was over haha</p>

Novusod
07-14-2011, 04:55 AM
<p>There was PvP gear in KoS too. It just wasn't very good.</p><p>Anyway I could definately see a T7 pvp server becoming more populated than Nagafen.</p>

Guld_Ulrish
07-14-2011, 05:59 AM
<p>The EOF pvp set was ok, better then much pve gear but not better then the best raid drops.</p>

Sprin
07-14-2011, 01:32 PM
<p>This REALLY is NEVER going to happen guys, can you stop wasting potential "PVP Dev" (i just sharted a little from laughing when I typed that) time from them reading this worthless post...</p><p>We all get it, old PVP was better then now, instead of wasting time dwelling on the past, why dont you propose things to FIX current PVP instead of dreaming of things that will never be..</p>

Magnis
07-14-2011, 01:47 PM
<p>K, lets start by removing flying/leaping mounts and intant world travel#1, just on naggy. I can live without that.</p><p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">ONE STEP AT A TIME 2011</span></p>

Tenka
07-14-2011, 01:47 PM
even if they made a t7 pvp server, it would only be a matter of time before the tears started flowing again. yeah the game was simpler back then and you pretty much knew where to find pvp, but there was a lot of jacked up stuff back then too. i'm certain new things to moan about would be brought up too. and what happens when ppl started asking for progression ? new gear ? deja vu

Sprin
07-14-2011, 05:49 PM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>even if they made a t7 pvp server, it would only be a matter of time before the tears started flowing again. yeah the game was simpler back then and you pretty much knew where to find pvp, but there was a lot of jacked up stuff back then too. i'm certain new things to moan about would be brought up too. and what happens when ppl started asking for progression ? new gear ? deja vu</blockquote><p>Exactly, you think the Devs thought of all the current crap that has evolved since KoS / EoF times?  Its carebare whining and petitions and bug reports etc etc that got us to our current condition... KoS PVP was broken too, just a different kind of broken... I think you guys are overlooking the primary source of the deterioration of PVP since KoS / EoF... its not the changes to PVP as much as its the changes to the PVE and openworld enviornment...</p><ul><li>10000 instances were created after EoF, mostly afterk RoK, to disapear into.... </li><li>pve gear was made far superior to PVP gear until just 2 months ago... </li><li>instant world travel, </li><li>guild halls to disapear into, </li><li>no waiting for spires (some of the best PVP fights came from that 5 minutes of waiting at a spire)</li><li>no traveling on clouds, </li><li>raid flags to plop down so nobody but one person with 60 seconds immunity could get to anywhere they want to go, free from harm... </li><li>zone wide zone ins to bring the rest of his group out of harm... </li><li>PVP choke points from writ givers and writs in general, WF's, PQ's, etc etc etc</li><li>Flying, insta-immunity mounts etc</li><li>etc etc etc etc etc...</li></ul><p>Its not so much the balance of classes, or even so much the gear, its all the rest of the crap above that destroyed PVP and made it into what we have today..</p>

Magnis
07-14-2011, 05:52 PM
<p>yeah pretty dead on. </p>

Sasquatch
07-14-2011, 10:31 PM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>even if they made a t7 pvp server, it would only be a matter of time before the tears started flowing again. yeah the game was simpler back then and you pretty much knew where to find pvp, but there was a lot of jacked up stuff back then too. i'm certain new things to moan about would be brought up too. and what happens when ppl started asking for progression ? new gear ? deja vu</blockquote><p>Exactly, you think the Devs thought of all the current crap that has evolved since KoS / EoF times?  Its carebare whining and petitions and bug reports etc etc that got us to our current condition... KoS PVP was broken too, just a different kind of broken... I think you guys are overlooking the primary source of the deterioration of PVP since KoS / EoF... its not the changes to PVP as much as its the changes to the PVE and openworld enviornment...</p><ul><li>10000 instances were created after EoF, mostly afterk RoK, to disapear into.... </li><li>pve gear was made far superior to PVP gear until just 2 months ago... </li><li>instant world travel, </li><li>guild halls to disapear into, </li><li>no waiting for spires (some of the best PVP fights came from that 5 minutes of waiting at a spire)</li><li>no traveling on clouds, </li><li>raid flags to plop down so nobody but one person with 60 seconds immunity could get to anywhere they want to go, free from harm... </li><li>zone wide zone ins to bring the rest of his group out of harm... </li><li>PVP choke points from writ givers and writs in general, WF's, PQ's, etc etc etc</li><li>Flying, insta-immunity mounts etc</li><li>etc etc etc etc etc...</li></ul><p>Its not so much the balance of classes, or even so much the gear, its all the rest of the crap above that destroyed PVP and made it into what we have today..</p></blockquote><p>Well put, but pve or not everything you listed would not be a problem on a t7 KoS pvp server, and IF people whined and petition about the t7 server pvp which prolly wont be many because how it compares to naggy now, SOE would be able to progress without making the same mistakes they made before because they will know what is going to happen ahead of time so it wont necessarily be a deja vu.</p>

Sprin
07-15-2011, 02:52 PM
<p><cite>Sasquatch wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Well put, but pve or not everything you listed would not be a problem on a t7 KoS pvp server, and IF people whined and petition about the t7 server pvp which prolly wont be many because how it compares to naggy now, SOE would be able to progress without making the same mistakes they made before because they will know what is going to happen ahead of time so it wont necessarily be a deja vu.</p></blockquote><p>Kinda failing to see my point here... the point is they will NEVER make another PVP server, especially one they have alreayd "fixed" 3+ years ago, and one they would have to upkeep and maintain and hear more whining about different aspects of PVP, and then have to worry about 2 different PVP rulesets...</p><p>They cant even focus on 1 PVP ruleset, you think they would do 2?  All I'm saying is lets focus this energy toward fixing current pvp Ruleset, not wasting our time asking for something that will never in 3 trillion years happen.</p>

Auxillery
07-16-2011, 02:33 AM
<p>I think they would do it... Isnt there a 50/20 or something server on eq1? Just give them time.</p>

Sasquatch
07-16-2011, 05:04 PM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Sasquatch wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Well put, but pve or not everything you listed would not be a problem on a t7 KoS pvp server, and IF people whined and petition about the t7 server pvp which prolly wont be many because how it compares to naggy now, SOE would be able to progress without making the same mistakes they made before because they will know what is going to happen ahead of time so it wont necessarily be a deja vu.</p></blockquote><p>Kinda failing to see my point here... the point is they will NEVER make another PVP server, especially one they have alreayd "fixed" 3+ years ago, and one they would have to upkeep and maintain and hear more whining about different aspects of PVP, and then have to worry about 2 different PVP rulesets...</p><p>They cant even focus on 1 PVP ruleset, you think they would do 2?  All I'm saying is lets focus this energy toward fixing current pvp Ruleset, not wasting our time asking for something that will never in 3 trillion years happen.</p></blockquote><p>Neither of us see each others point of view. I will repeat, your are not going to see alot of petitions or whining if this did happen because the extremely positive effects this will have on pvp compared to pvp now, if there were going to be any complaints im sure there would not be enough to screw pvp over again.</p>

Winter12345
07-16-2011, 10:52 PM
<p>Don't just assume that SOE will never do something like this. Is it unlikely? Probably, but over time, with more and more support, something can be done. A similar thing was done in EQ1 with a pve progession server, and I'm sure before it was implemented people thought the idea was never going to succeed.</p>

Jacquotte
07-18-2011, 06:32 AM
<p><cite>Sasquatch wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Good try but no. You can keep your broken dying naggy with absolutely no open world pvp, 130% mount speed, flying/leaping/gliding mounts, and toughness pvp gear. While we enjoy PvP when it was most balanced by far. Also just because you have raid gear doesnt mean a thing in KoS. If a vet in MC goes against someone in raid gear who isnt as experienced in pvp, Vet wins. The state Nagafen is in now is way too far from fixable and is why they should make the t7 KoS pvp server, cant hurt SOE, but will no doubt help them in everyway and bring there player base back.</p></blockquote><p>QFE</p>

Jacquotte
07-18-2011, 06:34 AM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>True you need to be better at your class to get a raid spot than you do to get PvP gear although if you are good at your class you will get your PvP gear allot faster than the guy that is not.  I like the idea of PvP gear just for the simple fact that while I enjoy hitting up Raids every now and then its not why I play the game.  So PvP gear makes sense to me as it puts everyone on equal footing if they are willing to put in some time be it grouped or solo ( but do not have the time to raid )</p><p>As for the balance thing I remember when RoK first came it the running joke was Ever Scout at end game.  So not sure how KoS/EoF was at end game as I was on my 14 day trial when RoK was coming out and just went straight to it with out playing KoS or EoF endgame.  Even with it being called Ever Scout when RoK first came out the only people that were really having any problems were those that well they would not goto a server like we are asking for anyway <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>Yeah, i see your point.  Wasn't there pvp gear during EoF though?  That level 65 set?  or did they add that in later?  i'm not sure i think i was only level 20 when EoF was over haha</p></blockquote><p>the "65"-set wasn't originally 65 at all. it was a copy-paste of the EOF lvl 70 raidgear, just as the 75 is a copy-paste of the lvl 80 T8a (rok) raidgear. Both sets used to be lvl 70 and 80 pvp-sets respectivly</p>

Jacquotte
07-18-2011, 06:39 AM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Don't just assume that SOE will never do something like this. Is it unlikely? Probably, but over time, with more and more support, something can be done. A similar thing was done in EQ1 with a pve progession server, and I'm sure before it was implemented people thought the idea was never going to succeed.</p></blockquote><p>exactly, having a EOF-locked pvp server AS_IT_WAS would bring alot of subs back, i am sure that even the soe employees misses the amazing pvp we had back then, before all the diminishing factors that made nagafen what it is today</p><p>give us a T7 pvp server in 2011</p><p>an EOF pvp server would be exactly as it was in 2007, people complaining and wanting ez-mode can play on Nagafen</p>

Guld_Ulrish
07-18-2011, 08:37 AM
<p>Hehe if I know soe it wont happened in a thousand years.</p>

Jacquotte
07-18-2011, 09:26 AM
<p><cite>Guld_Ulrish wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Hehe if I know soe it wont happened in a thousand years.</p></blockquote><p>we can only pray and keep petitioning <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>the best pvp-experience ever in any mmorpg needs a revive!</p>

Jacquotte
07-21-2011, 12:05 PM
<p>i'd like some more input from players and i would also like to see a <span style="color: #ff0000;">red</span> name posting</p>

Guld_Ulrish
07-21-2011, 04:10 PM
<p><span style="color: #888888;">Red names is </span><span style="color: #888888;">rare!</span></p>

Jacquotte
07-22-2011, 05:05 AM
<p><cite>Guld_Ulrish wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><span style="color: #888888;">Red names is </span><span style="color: #888888;">rare!</span></p></blockquote><p>i know right, but we need them here..</p><p>this is a ongoing 3-year old request and the need for this server has never been more vital for the survivability of pvp in everquest2</p>

Cocytus
07-23-2011, 03:11 AM
<p>Nah t7 KOS. EOF was ok, but it was where they *started* the trend of trying to make skilled and unskilled players be on even ground.</p>

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Jacquotte
07-26-2011, 09:51 AM
<p><cite>Cocytus wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Nah t7 KOS. EOF was ok, but it was where they *started* the trend of trying to make skilled and unskilled players be on even ground.</p></blockquote><p>you mean with the copy-paste of the pvp / raidgear or how so? <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

Shotneedle
07-29-2011, 07:51 PM
<p>Rothgar wants to do at least 1 progression server, but it's actually a lot of work and we'd have to show a ton of interest.</p><p>An EoF locked pvp server would be godly.</p>

Talathion
07-30-2011, 12:32 PM
<p>An EOF Locked Server where ALL items are available, BUT all Items ROK+ Are Red and unusable.</p><p>TSO Trees/Heroic Trees are Red Unusable, So are SF Trees.</p><p>Anyone can Transfer to the Server, if your 90 your level is reduced to 70, but your still a 90, and your 20 levels beyond that are red and unusable.</p><p>So is your ROK+Gear.</p><p>However you can still go to other places (like DoV) you just are a level 70 in a level 90 zone.</p>

Ahlana
07-30-2011, 12:40 PM
<p><cite>[email protected] Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>An EOF Locked Server where ALL items are available, BUT all Items ROK+ Are Red and unusable.</p><p>TSO Trees/Heroic Trees are Red Unusable, So are SF Trees.</p><p>Anyone can Transfer to the Server, if your 90 your level is reduced to 70, but your still a 90, and your 20 levels beyond that are red and unusable.</p><p>So is your ROK+Gear.</p><p>However you can still go to other places (like DoV) you just are a level 70 in a level 90 zone.</p></blockquote><p>This will be the first time I have ever said this on these forums and I have disagreed with alot of people.</p><p>But are you seriously alright in the head, this is the worst idea I have ever read... ever and I have read your other posts so that is saying something.</p>

Winter12345
08-04-2011, 11:03 PM
<p><cite>[email protected] Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>An EOF Locked Server where ALL items are available, BUT all Items ROK+ Are Red and unusable.</p><p>TSO Trees/Heroic Trees are Red Unusable, So are SF Trees.</p><p>Anyone can Transfer to the Server, if your 90 your level is reduced to 70, but your still a 90, and your 20 levels beyond that are red and unusable.</p><p>So is your ROK+Gear.</p><p>However you can still go to other places (like DoV) you just are a level 70 in a level 90 zone.</p></blockquote><p>Or just patch to the latest days of EoF? What's the point of adding in DoV zones with no purpose....</p><p>Confused.</p>

Crismorn
08-05-2011, 12:29 AM
<p><cite>[email protected] Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Rothgar wants to do at least 1 progression server, but it's actually a lot of work and we'd have to show a ton of interest.</p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>An EoF locked pvp server would be godly.</strong></p></blockquote><p>sweet mother of god~</p><p>I mean yes please</p>

Crismorn
08-05-2011, 12:30 AM
<p><cite>[email protected] Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>An EOF Locked Server where ALL items are available, BUT all Items ROK+ Are Red and unusable.</p><p>TSO Trees/Heroic Trees are Red Unusable, So are SF Trees.</p><p>Anyone can Transfer to the Server, if your 90 your level is reduced to 70, but your still a 90, and your 20 levels beyond that are red and unusable.</p><p>So is your ROK+Gear.</p><p>However you can still go to other places (like DoV) you just are a level 70 in a level 90 zone.</p></blockquote><p>No xfers at all imo. and of course pvp enabled</p><p>remove all the areas past EoF though, that is just weird</p>

Guld_Ulrish
08-05-2011, 03:39 AM
<p>No xfers, ppl got chars with all the best eof raid stuff on their t7 twinks lol.</p>

Cocytus
08-06-2011, 12:59 AM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Cocytus wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Nah t7 KOS. EOF was ok, but it was where they *started* the trend of trying to make skilled and unskilled players be on even ground.</p></blockquote><p>you mean with the copy-paste of the pvp / raidgear or how so? <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>For one thing, player skill became less and lesse relevant with overpowered raid gear. For another, that was when they started saying OMG WE CAN'T HAVE QUICK FIGHTS! Nevermind players luring other players into traps. Nevermind ambushes, or other varying tactics that SHOULD end in a quick fight when fighting against a relatively unskilled player. That kinda thing.</p>

Vishiimtar
08-07-2011, 03:41 PM
<p>I'd resub to play on a progression pvp server.</p>

Jacquotte
08-08-2011, 09:57 AM
<p><cite>Crismorn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>[email protected] Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>An EOF Locked Server where ALL items are available, BUT all Items ROK+ Are Red and unusable.</p><p>TSO Trees/Heroic Trees are Red Unusable, So are SF Trees.</p><p>Anyone can Transfer to the Server, if your 90 your level is reduced to 70, but your still a 90, and your 20 levels beyond that are red and unusable.</p><p>So is your ROK+Gear.</p><p>However you can still go to other places (like DoV) you just are a level 70 in a level 90 zone.</p></blockquote><p>No xfers at all imo. and of course pvp enabled</p><p>remove all the areas past EoF though, that is just weird</p></blockquote><p>a new pure and clean server patched to last day of eof with no transfers allowed, permanently locked to EOF content and the rulesets that was live at the last day of EOF is what we are praying for</p><p>a progressionserver is a great idea, BUT this is a PVE thing and should be completely seperated from this server</p>

Greggthegrmreapr
08-08-2011, 11:53 AM
<p>I would do this in an instant.  I miss those days.  Yeah, I raided, but most often than not the gear I used was group instance or PvP gear.  I remember leveling up and then becoming known on Venekor...  I only stay on Nagafen now because I have a lot of friends here and know no one on the PvE servers anymore.</p>

Greggthegrmreapr
08-08-2011, 12:24 PM
<p>I was thinking about this for a bit, and I think personally that EoF even would not be that bad.  EoF brought a lot of contested content to EQ2pvp and that in my opinion is where the game is at it's best.</p><p>Only things I would change about the game would be having all classes in all factions as we do now, and making all raid zones contested.  That should help apease the ones who are against raid gear.  Then you know the gear is earned when you have to fight for it.</p>

Fluffyhairball
08-14-2011, 11:26 AM
<p>Make it happen SONY! For onec suprice us pvpers in happy way. God know you have made lot of changes that where horrible for pvp.</p><p>EoF or KoS pvp server in 2011 and all is forgiven</p><p>Love Fluffy</p>

Taldier
08-18-2011, 05:35 PM
<p>This is probably the only thing that would ever bring me back to EQ2.</p>

Jacquotte
08-21-2011, 07:47 AM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>This is probably the only thing that would ever bring me back to EQ2.</p></blockquote><p>exactly how many old vets feel, a server like this would be truly amazing!</p>

Sprin
08-21-2011, 04:57 PM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>This is probably the only thing that would ever bring me back to EQ2.</p></blockquote><p>exactly how many old vets feel, a server like this would be truly amazing!</p></blockquote><p>As lame as the idea is... the Idea of EoF PVP is just that, an idea, an ideal... we all have this "oh man that was so great back then" in our head...</p><p>except the reality is, the mentality of PVP has changed on Nagafen forever... something that can't be undone no matter what the "PVP ruleset" is...</p><p>that's the mob / zerg / AOE-fest mentality...</p><p>People are so used to standing in a mob and doing blue aoes that it will never change.... it has been etched into peoples minds now...</p><p>People will congregate on a T7 PVP server at the same places they congregate now, its just the PVP will be slower and be just as broken it is now, except the broken aspects will be the ones we've already fixed and are back to... healing without entering combat, evacing in combat, charm and evac'ng, safe house breaking combat below 50 and breaking combat, the list goes on..</p><p>And you cant have some parts of a "rollback" server and not others...</p><p>No PVP writs would be awesome, no doubt, but that wouldnt change the fact people will still just sit on EL docks and wait for the zerg... thats the mentality of PVP on nagafen from now until the end of time.  And its 100% SOE's fault for allowing that kind of activity to be rewarding... </p><p>Even if people dont get body drops, that wont stop people from doing it... its a mentality that will never go away.</p>

Greggthegrmreapr
08-21-2011, 06:47 PM
<p>Not necessarily.  There are a lot of people, along with myself, that do not go along with that "mentality."  I don't go anywhere near the zerg and only do WF when my guild has people doing them.</p>

Ol
08-21-2011, 09:23 PM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>This is probably the only thing that would ever bring me back to EQ2.</p></blockquote><p>exactly how many old vets feel, a server like this would be truly amazing!</p></blockquote><p>As lame as the idea is... the Idea of EoF PVP is just that, an idea, an ideal... we all have this "oh man that was so great back then" in our head...</p><p>except the reality is, the mentality of PVP has changed on Nagafen forever... something that can't be undone no matter what the "PVP ruleset" is...</p><p>that's the mob / zerg / AOE-fest mentality...</p><p>People are so used to standing in a mob and doing blue aoes that it will never change.... it has been etched into peoples minds now...</p><p>People will congregate on a T7 PVP server at the same places they congregate now, its just the PVP will be slower and be just as broken it is now, except the broken aspects will be the ones we've already fixed and are back to... healing without entering combat, evacing in combat, charm and evac'ng, safe house breaking combat below 50 and breaking combat, the list goes on..</p><p>And you cant have some parts of a "rollback" server and not others...</p><p>No PVP writs would be awesome, no doubt, but that wouldnt change the fact people will still just sit on EL docks and wait for the zerg... thats the mentality of PVP on nagafen from now until the end of time.  And its 100% SOE's fault for allowing that kind of activity to be rewarding... </p><p>Even if people dont get body drops, that wont stop people from doing it... its a mentality that will never go away.</p></blockquote><p>The zerg mentality came because of the no fame loss/writ changes. People don't zerg because its fun and exciting, they do it because its the easiest way to get rewards.</p>

Sprin
08-22-2011, 07:18 PM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>The zerg mentality came because of the no fame loss/writ changes. People don't zerg because its fun and exciting, they do it because its the easiest way to get rewards.</p></blockquote><p>It was around far before the no fame loss... and it wasn't writ changes, it was writs in general that did it... a choke point where people can get endless updates in one place...  </p><p>It's here to stay and even if I or 1 or 2 of you people don't do it... 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of the rest of the server do.. .</p><p>Writs will never go away and neither will the mentality, even if writs do go away...</p><p>and that is how it will be no matter what... forever... PVP is dead on this game and I really hope it goes under TBH</p>

songsta
09-14-2011, 02:16 PM
<p>I myself have been playing since near launch and I played EQ1 for a while also, I still subcribe almost every month to this dying game in hopes one day Sony will wake up and reinstate what made this game great. You can see just by the responses in this ONE post that you would bring back so many subs by making this server. Yeah there'd be issues like safe house and charmnevac but at least there was pvp, and there was the chase, if there was a champion you wanted fame from who kept safehousing and evacing then you knew you WANTED HIS FAME BAD and chased him all over. And travel took work, and pvp was abundant and everywhere and out in the open not in a GH or in an instance or way up in the sky or leaping over your head, if you make pvp based on body drop tokens and gear obtained from tokens and PVE then people will have to go out and PVE! and then people will have to go FIND those pveer's to get their body dropped tokens! Contested raid mobs also=win pvp, who remembers the old days of trying to stop Onyx from killing the avatars or any other contested mob, thats just one guild, if they made a progression server, clean slate it, no transfers....everyone starts at 1, rebuild this community from the ground up, what can it hurt? Nothing, Nagafen is dying or already dead, depends on who you ask. If you don't agree, you're naive. Let it die, bring back what people want, if you want how naggy is now? stay there. Its not like a progression server would take a whole bunch of their time to upkeep.... I may have made a few wrong points in here but thats how i feel. Bring back EoF or KoS, the good ole days! I'd go back to playing every single day.</p><p>Sincerely,</p><p>Warhawk-Created Saturday, September 16th, 2006.</p>

songsta
09-14-2011, 02:41 PM
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zE4rqHwzpfQ">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zE4rqHwzpfQ</a></p><p>Like that, pvp like that, the good stuff....ugh what i'd give.</p>

Sasquatch
09-14-2011, 07:43 PM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I myself have been playing since near launch and I played EQ1 for a while also, I still subcribe almost every month to this dying game in hopes one day Sony will wake up and reinstate what made this game great. You can see just by the responses in this ONE post that you would bring back so many subs by making this server. Yeah there'd be issues like safe house and charmnevac but at least there was pvp, and there was the chase, if there was a champion you wanted fame from who kept safehousing and evacing then you knew you WANTED HIS FAME BAD and chased him all over. And travel took work, and pvp was abundant and everywhere and out in the open not in a GH or in an instance or way up in the sky or leaping over your head, if you make pvp based on body drop tokens and gear obtained from tokens and PVE then people will have to go out and PVE! and then people will have to go FIND those pveer's to get their body dropped tokens! Contested raid mobs also=win pvp, who remembers the old days of trying to stop Onyx from killing the avatars or any other contested mob, thats just one guild, if they made a progression server, clean slate it, no transfers....everyone starts at 1, rebuild this community from the ground up, what can it hurt? Nothing, Nagafen is dying or already dead, depends on who you ask. If you don't agree, you're naive. Let it die, bring back what people want, if you want how naggy is now? stay there. Its not like a progression server would take a whole bunch of their time to upkeep.... I may have made a few wrong points in here but thats how i feel. Bring back EoF or KoS, the good ole days! I'd go back to playing every single day.</p><p>Sincerely,</p><p>Warhawk-Created Saturday, September 16th, 2006.</p></blockquote><p>Thank You for this, saves me all that time i would of spent typing a post with the exact same opinion.</p>

Ilovecows
11-09-2011, 12:40 AM
<p>I still hope this can be done.  please?</p>

Jacquotte
11-09-2011, 06:51 AM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zE4rqHwzpfQ">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zE4rqHwzpfQ</a></p><p>Like that, pvp like that, the good stuff....ugh what i'd give.</p></blockquote><p>this just made me cry a little..</p><p>the game was so amazing back then, awesome video</p>

Jacquotte
11-09-2011, 07:02 AM
<p><cite>Sasquatch wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I myself have been playing since near launch and I played EQ1 for a while also, I still subcribe almost every month to this dying game in hopes one day Sony will wake up and reinstate what made this game great. You can see just by the responses in this ONE post that you would bring back so many subs by making this server. Yeah there'd be issues like safe house and charmnevac but at least there was pvp, and there was the chase, if there was a champion you wanted fame from who kept safehousing and evacing then you knew you WANTED HIS FAME BAD and chased him all over. And travel took work, and pvp was abundant and everywhere and out in the open not in a GH or in an instance or way up in the sky or leaping over your head, if you make pvp based on body drop tokens and gear obtained from tokens and PVE then people will have to go out and PVE! and then people will have to go FIND those pveer's to get their body dropped tokens! Contested raid mobs also=win pvp, who remembers the old days of trying to stop Onyx from killing the avatars or any other contested mob, thats just one guild, if they made a progression server, clean slate it, no transfers....everyone starts at 1, rebuild this community from the ground up, what can it hurt? Nothing, Nagafen is dying or already dead, depends on who you ask. If you don't agree, you're naive. Let it die, bring back what people want, if you want how naggy is now? stay there. Its not like a progression server would take a whole bunch of their time to upkeep.... I may have made a few wrong points in here but thats how i feel. Bring back EoF or KoS, the good ole days! I'd go back to playing every single day.</p><p>Sincerely,</p><p>Warhawk-Created Saturday, September 16th, 2006.</p></blockquote><p>Thank You for this, saves me all that time i would of spent typing a post with the exact same opinion.</p></blockquote><p>ditto! I haven't heard anyone not saying that pvp wasn't better in T7.</p><p>please SOE, we miss everquest2pvp!</p><p>There is no way you wouldnt benefit from this, people would still play current game, getting lon and marketplace stuff, BUT on top of that.. a ton of people would return to the game, for the new T7 pvp server.</p><p>make it as it was, make us love this game again.</p>

Arckon
12-31-2011, 02:41 AM
With the addition of mercs this server needs to happen. SOE unless you a willing to lose more of your player base. You need to make this happen.

Seliri
12-31-2011, 03:15 AM
<p><cite>Arckon wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>With the addition of mercs this server needs to happen. SOE unless you a willing to lose more of your player base. You need to make this happen.</blockquote><p><span style="color: #ff6600;">or they could just abide by the 45 PoAfEP & not bastardize their only remaining PvP server...</span></p>

Souse
12-31-2011, 04:00 AM
<p><cite>Seliri wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Arckon wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>With the addition of mercs this server needs to happen. SOE unless you a willing to lose more of your player base. You need to make this happen.</blockquote><p><span style="color: #ff6600;">or they could just abide by the 45 PoAfEP & not bastardize their only remaining PvP server...</span></p></blockquote><p>Or we can just ignore any complications between communicative efforts, and implement a commonly understood idea. To me, it seems this PvP tier was the absolute amazingness, both logically and socially, so I would not see an issue with implementing a PvP server locked on this tier.</p>

Souse
01-08-2012, 11:20 PM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I myself have been playing since near launch and I played EQ1 for a while also, I still subcribe almost every month to this dying game in hopes one day Sony will wake up and reinstate what made this game great. You can see just by the responses in this ONE post that you would bring back so many subs by making this server. Yeah there'd be issues like safe house and charmnevac but at least there was pvp, and there was the chase, if there was a champion you wanted fame from who kept safehousing and evacing then you knew you WANTED HIS FAME BAD and chased him all over. And travel took work, and pvp was abundant and everywhere and out in the open not in a GH or in an instance or way up in the sky or leaping over your head, if you make pvp based on body drop tokens and gear obtained from tokens and PVE then people will have to go out and PVE! and then people will have to go FIND those pveer's to get their body dropped tokens! Contested raid mobs also=win pvp, who remembers the old days of trying to stop Onyx from killing the avatars or any other contested mob, thats just one guild, if they made a progression server, clean slate it, no transfers....everyone starts at 1, rebuild this community from the ground up, what can it hurt? Nothing, Nagafen is dying or already dead, depends on who you ask. If you don't agree, you're naive. Let it die, bring back what people want, if you want how naggy is now? stay there. Its not like a progression server would take a whole bunch of their time to upkeep.... I may have made a few wrong points in here but thats how i feel. Bring back EoF or KoS, the good ole days! I'd go back to playing every single day.</p><p>Sincerely,</p><p>Warhawk-Created Saturday, September 16th, 2006.</p></blockquote><p>qfe</p>

EQ2Playa432
01-25-2012, 11:31 PM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I myself have been playing since near launch and I played EQ1 for a while also, I still subcribe almost every month to this dying game in hopes one day Sony will wake up and reinstate what made this game great. You can see just by the responses in this ONE post that you would bring back so many subs by making this server. Yeah there'd be issues like safe house and charmnevac but at least there was pvp, and there was the chase, if there was a champion you wanted fame from who kept safehousing and evacing then you knew you WANTED HIS FAME BAD and chased him all over. And travel took work, and pvp was abundant and everywhere and out in the open not in a GH or in an instance or way up in the sky or leaping over your head, if you make pvp based on body drop tokens and gear obtained from tokens and PVE then people will have to go out and PVE! and then people will have to go FIND those pveer's to get their body dropped tokens! Contested raid mobs also=win pvp, who remembers the old days of trying to stop Onyx from killing the avatars or any other contested mob, thats just one guild, if they made a progression server, clean slate it, no transfers....everyone starts at 1, rebuild this community from the ground up, what can it hurt? Nothing, Nagafen is dying or already dead, depends on who you ask. If you don't agree, you're naive. Let it die, bring back what people want, if you want how naggy is now? stay there. Its not like a progression server would take a whole bunch of their time to upkeep.... I may have made a few wrong points in here but thats how i feel. Bring back EoF or KoS, the good ole days! I'd go back to playing every single day.</p><p>Sincerely,</p><p>Warhawk-Created Saturday, September 16th, 2006.</p></blockquote><p>It's NOT just a small vocal minority that wants this type of server. That's an important point.</p>

Whatyastarinat
01-26-2012, 07:37 PM
<p>come on Sony,...plz speak up this is a clear cry out for some attention on PVP...we really need this...all of the old players are dying to get back into a game that they loved, and a server patched to the last day of EOF would do it...come on pvp dev please respond there is still time to save this, these people are your customers and the clear lack of responses from anyone in an "administrative position" is rather sad...These people paid to play the game they love, not the game you've turned it in to please for the love of Eq2, roll it back to the last day of eof t7 pvp...Title it "Everquest 2 Legacy" EOF was the ultimate xpac for pvp and I really do miss logging into this game but I can't bring my self to do it anymore because of how bad the current system is, I promise if you do this you will get so many subs in a minute.</p>

Magnis
01-26-2012, 08:02 PM
<p>not this thread again, you guys need to stop getting me so nostalgic. </p><p>.....still think this is one of the best things that could happen to this game...</p>

Sexyman
01-27-2012, 08:03 PM
<p>I would resub all three of my accounts again if this were to happen but it won't. I have played since the Nagafen server first opened and I remember the popularity this game brought. All the zones full, PVP at it's best. Honestly though who would patch this server to EOF Days  and why? Just because a few people said so compared to the population that we had back then? Everquest 2 is dead and if you want to make your point across to SOE unsubscribe stop paying them for a broken game. It's free now anyways so you can still play sorta haha. Honestly though the only way to do this is a progression server bUT we all know the blubies will whine and say WHY PVP?!? I say we move on from this until we find a better game that actually has a staff that cares about losing even one subcriber. I</p>

Arckon
06-25-2012, 10:10 PM
<p>This server would be the most populated server in a matter of hours and I belive that is why SOE will not make one because everyone will be to busy playing on this server and not raiding or doing any of the endgame content. I think in the devs minds they just dont want people sitting on this server and not playing zones they just put out.  Would this be the best idea for PVP? Yes it would, but like I said a conpany is not going to make a server based on old content that would take away from players doing the new content that they are working on.</p>

Charmnevac
07-05-2012, 05:10 PM
<p>In for T7 locked server. Would appreciate Dev response too please.</p>

Azekah1
07-06-2012, 11:58 AM
<p>I would be on that like black on a panther</p>

Azekah1
07-06-2012, 12:05 PM
<p>I'll put my 2c here, and I know a lot of people would probably disagree, but I think one of the things that would help pvp is resetting the server once a year. I know, crazy right? But what makes pvp the most fun? People running all over the place, questing, running dungeons, leveling, hunting opposing players...this helps promote what I shall call "organic pvp". None of this BG's or Warfields. Organic pvp is the best kind and sadly, becomes less and less as the server ages, people get stuck in thier guild halls and instances oogling their sweet gear and titles.</p><p>I saw the pontential in this when I tried out the Freeport f2p server and there where sooo many people running all over the place in all the zones. I thought, if this was a pvp server this would be like Nagafen back in the old days.</p><p>Oh well, I know this is less likely then getting a T7 server, but thought I'd share : )</p>

Krokous
07-08-2012, 07:58 AM
<p>Yes please, T7 pvp server (latest EoF version)</p>

Taldier
07-13-2012, 10:15 PM
<p>How has this not happened yet?  Seriously, what are the huge costs associated with this?</p><p>Its not the hardware, they've merged tons of servers since the old days.  Somebody go pull venekor out of a closet and boot that **** up.</p><p>We dont need devs with their "updates" and "content".  Just turn this thing on, load an old backup from EOF, and let people play. </p>

Arckon
09-06-2012, 09:16 PM
<p>So I do not understand how there has not been a dev answer yet? Would it be so hard to make this happen? Nagafen is dead and you still claim there is a big pvp base....................WRONG. Make this server happen or you will continue to lose subs.</p><p>Exile shared banks 2012</p>

crazyeyes321
09-07-2012, 12:43 PM
<p>Naggy isn't dead.  Naggy is just logged into the battlegrounds lobby.  And those that arent are either grossly outnumbered or cant find the few stragglers out questing.</p><p>T7 server wont fix anything, people will still be out in bgs.  People will still stick to one massive zerg side.</p><p>Accept that everquest pvp is doomed to remain a minigame diversion now, because any real effort for a decent everquest themed pvp or rvr is gonna be towards EQNext.  Hope they learn from past mistakes that they and others have made, but Im fearing it will be another bg system that all other games are adopting.</p>

Endemicx
09-07-2012, 05:17 PM
<p><cite>crazyeyes321 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Naggy isn't dead.  Naggy is just logged into the battlegrounds lobby.  And those that arent are either grossly outnumbered or cant find the few stragglers out questing.</p><p>T7 server wont fix anything, people will still be out in bgs.  People will still stick to one massive zerg side.</p><p>Accept that everquest pvp is doomed to remain a minigame diversion now, because any real effort for a decent everquest themed pvp or rvr is gonna be towards EQNext.  Hope they learn from past mistakes that they and others have made, but Im fearing it will be another bg system that all other games are adopting.</p></blockquote><p>How is that?  Battlegrounds didn't exist back then.</p><p>Raid pvp existed but was uncommon compared to pocket small groups pvp.</p><p>Honestly I would love a roll back to this.  By far the greatest pvp this game ever had was this tier.  You could start pvping in just MC gear right from the get go.  </p><p>This literally was the peak of excellence for pvp players in this game and I would be all over it.  I have read some comments about fixing pvp as it is now but are not all of these crazy gear imbalances we have now due to supposed fixes?</p><p>T7 FTW</p>

crazyeyes321
09-07-2012, 07:41 PM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>crazyeyes321 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Naggy isn't dead.  Naggy is just logged into the battlegrounds lobby.  And those that arent are either grossly outnumbered or cant find the few stragglers out questing.</p><p>T7 server wont fix anything, people will still be out in bgs.  People will still stick to one massive zerg side.</p><p>Accept that everquest pvp is doomed to remain a minigame diversion now, because any real effort for a decent everquest themed pvp or rvr is gonna be towards EQNext.  Hope they learn from past mistakes that they and others have made, but Im fearing it will be another bg system that all other games are adopting.</p></blockquote><p>How is that?  Battlegrounds didn't exist back then.</p><p>Raid pvp existed but was uncommon compared to pocket small groups pvp.</p><p>Honestly I would love a roll back to this.  By far the greatest pvp this game ever had was this tier.  You could start pvping in just MC gear right from the get go.  </p><p>This literally was the peak of excellence for pvp players in this game and I would be all over it.  I have read some comments about fixing pvp as it is now but are not all of these crazy gear imbalances we have now due to supposed fixes?</p><p>T7 FTW</p></blockquote><p>Dont you think that if they made a server like this, it would simply divide the few people that still open world pvp?  Some people like open world and end game content.  Furthermore, you are still overlooking the apparent love that so called pvp'ers have for battlegrounds.  For any new pvp server to survive, you would have to prevent people from playing in BGs.  If you dont, you have Nagafen again, but with only a portion of the players since it is content limited.  You will also have 'pvp' server players just going to pve servers for bgs when they want without the hassle when they dont.</p><p>I do not disagree with you that DoF/EoF/RoK were the best years of pvp, but at this point in the game, it cant go back to that era and maintain healthy numbers.</p>

Endemicx
09-11-2012, 10:06 AM
<p><cite>crazyeyes321 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>crazyeyes321 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Naggy isn't dead.  Naggy is just logged into the battlegrounds lobby.  And those that arent are either grossly outnumbered or cant find the few stragglers out questing.</p><p>T7 server wont fix anything, people will still be out in bgs.  People will still stick to one massive zerg side.</p><p>Accept that everquest pvp is doomed to remain a minigame diversion now, because any real effort for a decent everquest themed pvp or rvr is gonna be towards EQNext.  Hope they learn from past mistakes that they and others have made, but Im fearing it will be another bg system that all other games are adopting.</p></blockquote><p>How is that?  Battlegrounds didn't exist back then.</p><p>Raid pvp existed but was uncommon compared to pocket small groups pvp.</p><p>Honestly I would love a roll back to this.  By far the greatest pvp this game ever had was this tier.  You could start pvping in just MC gear right from the get go.  </p><p>This literally was the peak of excellence for pvp players in this game and I would be all over it.  I have read some comments about fixing pvp as it is now but are not all of these crazy gear imbalances we have now due to supposed fixes?</p><p>T7 FTW</p></blockquote><p>Dont you think that if they made a server like this, it would simply divide the few people that still open world pvp?  Some people like open world and end game content.  Furthermore, you are still overlooking the apparent love that so called pvp'ers have for battlegrounds.  For any new pvp server to survive, you would have to prevent people from playing in BGs.  If you dont, you have Nagafen again, but with only a portion of the players since it is content limited.  You will also have 'pvp' server players just going to pve servers for bgs when they want without the hassle when they dont.</p><p>I do not disagree with you that DoF/EoF/RoK were the best years of pvp, but at this point in the game, it cant go back to that era and maintain healthy numbers.</p></blockquote><p>It could divide the current player base a bit on nagafen yes but honestly with just the old returners I bet it would offset any division and we would gain in pvp targets.  Honestly most pvpers don't love bg's they just do them because it is the fastest way to get gear.  If everyone was in the open world then they would pvp there since that is the fastest way to get gear.  Honestly open world pvp can be hard to find and then during wf lol everyone is piled into one faction to blow up npc's the fastest so they get the winner's amount of tokens.  I think this is a great idea honestly.</p>

crazyeyes321
09-11-2012, 10:51 AM
<p>I don't believe making a new server will bring back that many of the pvp players from ages ago.  New games have come out that have captured some of their attention, some have grown tired of games in general, others in the company.  Also realize that the 'golden era' was a few years back, so there is going to be loss from the players that were then in college and now have commitments outside of the game.</p><p>I look at this much like I did eq1, pvp was great in the get go, but as expansions and new skills/aa came about and characters left for other games, its value decreased as well.  I wouldnt want to stop them making something that would definately increase pvp playability, but I am of mind that at this point, EQNext is our best hope. . . . if they dont turn it into a BG only game from the start.</p>

Endemicx
09-11-2012, 08:53 PM
<p><cite>crazyeyes321 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I don't believe making a new server will bring back that many of the pvp players from ages ago.  New games have come out that have captured some of their attention, some have grown tired of games in general, others in the company.  Also realize that the 'golden era' was a few years back, so there is going to be loss from the players that were then in college and now have commitments outside of the game.</p><p>I look at this much like I did eq1, pvp was great in the get go, but as expansions and new skills/aa came about and characters left for other games, its value decreased as well.  I wouldnt want to stop them making something that would definately increase pvp playability, but I am of mind that at this point, EQNext is our best hope. . . . if they dont turn it into a BG only game from the start.</p></blockquote><p>Unless they follow the path of every other game that has recently come out with the one button dumbed down everything macroed pvp...</p>

Seliri
09-11-2012, 09:32 PM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>crazyeyes321 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I don't believe making a new server will bring back that many of the pvp players from ages ago.  New games have come out that have captured some of their attention, some have grown tired of games in general, others in the company.  Also realize that the 'golden era' was a few years back, so there is going to be loss from the players that were then in college and now have commitments outside of the game.</p><p>I look at this much like I did eq1, pvp was great in the get go, but as expansions and new skills/aa came about and characters left for other games, its value decreased as well.  I wouldnt want to stop them making something that would definately increase pvp playability, but I am of mind that at this point, EQNext is our best hope. . . . if they dont turn it into a BG only game from the start.</p></blockquote><p>Unless they follow the path of every other game that has recently come out with the one button dumbed down everything macroed pvp...</p></blockquote><p><span style="color: #ff6600;">laughing my posterior off my dear peer</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff6600;">i agree that MMO vision in the industry, as a whole, is likely doomed. </span></p><p><span style="color: #ff6600;">1-2 hotbars of spells/CAs is so durn annoyingly simplistic.</span></p>

supergalaktik
10-19-2012, 10:25 AM
<p>Probably won't happen, but I'd be in.</p>

Arckon
10-23-2012, 03:55 PM
What a shock that there has not been a dev response yet. Go ahead and circus your efforts on fluff items like SOE mote and market place items. Yet when a great idea is put in front of you it gets ignored.

Jacquotte
10-30-2012, 06:06 AM
<p><cite>Arckon wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>What a shock that there has not been a dev response yet. Go ahead and circus your efforts on fluff items like SOE mote and market place items. Yet when a great idea is put in front of you it gets ignored.</blockquote><p>its only a 3 year old thread.. give them a chance lulz</p>