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Sanon12
07-21-2010, 08:39 PM
<p>I find the pvp server rules facinating and kinda want to roll on one. Main issue is that 1. I'm new to the game. And 2. I've heard from 1 to about 40, I'll be up against an army of gankers that will make my life a living hell, and that I can do little to nothing about. Is this true? I know I'll have to deal with random pvp, which is something I look forward to. But if I won't even be able to defend myself till some later date...</p>

Taldier
07-21-2010, 09:03 PM
<p><cite>Sanon12 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I find the pvp server rules facinating and kinda want to roll on one. Main issue is that 1. I'm new to the game. And 2. I've heard from 1 to about 40, I'll be up against an army of gankers that will make my life a living hell, and that I can do little to nothing about. Is this true? I know I'll have to deal with random pvp, which is something I look forward to. But if I won't even be able to defend myself till some later date...</p></blockquote><p>My advice has always been that completely new players shouldnt start on a pvp server.</p><p>Make a character on a pve server, experiment a little and learn the basic idea of how the game works.  Pve servers are like a tutorial.</p><p>Then, once you get so sick of the carebears frolicking through fields of flowers holding hands that you want to stab them in the eye....delete your pve character and start a new character on pvp.</p><p>Anyone can make a character on a pvp server and have it capable of pvping reasonably successfully very quickly if they already know how the game works and are willing to put in the work. (wanting to stab pve'ers in the eye is also an important requirement for being a pvper <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/908627bbe5e9f6a080977db8c365caff.gif" border="0" />)</p><p>Starting out fresh with no idea of where to go or what to do is going to be very frustrating when people slaughter you and you dont even know enough about the game to know why you cant really hurt them much</p>

Sanon12
07-21-2010, 11:07 PM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Sanon12 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I find the pvp server rules facinating and kinda want to roll on one. Main issue is that 1. I'm new to the game. And 2. I've heard from 1 to about 40, I'll be up against an army of gankers that will make my life a living hell, and that I can do little to nothing about. Is this true? I know I'll have to deal with random pvp, which is something I look forward to. But if I won't even be able to defend myself till some later date...</p></blockquote><p>My advice has always been that completely new players shouldnt start on a pvp server.</p><p>Make a character on a pve server, experiment a little and learn the basic idea of how the game works.  Pve servers are like a tutorial.</p><p>Then, once you get so sick of the carebears frolicking through fields of flowers holding hands that you want to stab them in the eye....delete your pve character and start a new character on pvp.</p><p>Anyone can make a character on a pvp server and have it capable of pvping reasonably successfully very quickly if they already know how the game works and are willing to put in the work. (wanting to stab pve'ers in the eye is also an important requirement for being a pvper <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/908627bbe5e9f6a080977db8c365caff.gif" border="0" />)</p><p>Starting out fresh with no idea of where to go or what to do is going to be very frustrating when people slaughter you and you dont even know enough about the game to know why you cant really hurt them much</p></blockquote><p>I'll just jump in then. I've played a great deal of MMO, I've read about the differences on a PvP server. What I do not know I can pick up quickly. I was mainly worried about the being ganked aspect rather than the knowledge aspect, that's easy. AA paths are obvious if you take a good look at them, crafting is simple after making a few things, I played Darkfall so I know all about banking (rule of thumb in darkfall, if it's not in the bank, it's not yours, EVER.), and I'll be playing a Swash, which if I'm not mistaken is your average stealth class, but you need to keep an eye on which buffs and debuffs are applied at any one point in time.</p>

Wytie
07-21-2010, 11:36 PM
<p>You seem to have a good grasp on the things you need to know, Im sure you will do very well.</p><p>As a scout if you keep totams active you should be able to avoid from ever being ganked.</p><p>Get the pvp ward 3 set bonus 1st.</p>

Vlahkmaak
07-22-2010, 01:16 AM
<p>When starting out dont level up to 10 right away if you plan on crafting - get your crafter level up high enough to make as much of the new toughness gear as you can for your toon as your going to be quite low on funds and not able to access items off the market right away.  As a rule of thumb harvest and keep your tradeskill lvl 10 lvls above your adventure level (of course my guardian is still like a lvl 9 artisian or something after rolling him day 1 of the pvp server - I HATE crafting). *** Disclaimer - with Warfields this is no longer the best gear option path, see below.</p><p>You can also follow my basic rule of thumb - if it don't drop for you then you really don't need it (yes - I really am that cheap usually).</p><p>Sell rares and shineys about 1/3 -1/2 lower than the cheapest on the broker and you will start accumulating cash quickly: even from the stupidly cheap copper things - it all adds up.</p><p>Wikipedia is your friend - good/decent quest write ups on most aspects of the game.</p><p>If you ask for help in the lvl good/evil or 1-9 channel of whatever alignment you choose be prepared to be textrahped harder than any opposing gank squad will roll you, ever, by your own faction (either side).  Best just to keep 1-9 turned off - its like the Jerry Springer Show meets what I thunk the wholrd should be like biatchzes ahss dog + the Jessica Simpson fun hour on crack meets the Jersy Shore.</p><p>When ready to test the pvp waters participate is as many Warfields as you can (Antonica and Commonlands): you will be given free tokens for doing nothing and will be able to buy the low level pvp gear (North Freeport for Evil and Qeynos Harbor for Goodies).  Please don't become one of the dock sitters or afk immunity huggers.  If your gonna pvp then pvp.</p><p>Never give your enemy quarter.</p><p>Never expect a fair fight.</p><p>Always bring as many friends as you can to kill that solo green con - otherwise you'll just have to kill him again and grief him for whoever missed the update: better just to get it over with and move on.</p>

stgninja
07-24-2010, 04:19 AM
<p>Learn to look at player's buffs to determine what class they are. </p>

EndevorX
07-24-2010, 05:42 AM
<p><cite>Sanon12 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I find the pvp server rules facinating and kinda want to roll on one. Main issue is that 1. I'm new to the game. And 2. I've heard from 1 to about 40, I'll be up against an army of gankers that will make my life a living hell, and that I can do little to nothing about. Is this true? I know I'll have to deal with random pvp, which is something I look forward to. But if I won't even be able to defend myself till some later date...</p></blockquote><p><span style="color: #ff6600;">IMO, the introductory information I posted in another newbie's PvP thread at </span><span ><span style="color: #ff6600;"><span style="color: #ff6600;"><a href="list.m?topic_id=482455">PvP at max level?</a>, as well </span>as the information found in the PvP briefing linked in my signature, may be all that is needed to succeed in PvP as a novice! </span></span></p>