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Tremonti
06-30-2010, 08:31 PM
<p>I've never played EQ2 on any server but Nagafen.  With these changes to PVP and the Battlegrounds thingy like WoW has to "PvP"</p><p>Is there any reason for me to resub and play on Nagafen instead of a PVE server other than to be annoyed and annoy others?</p>

zyllith
06-30-2010, 08:51 PM
<p><cite>Tremonti wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I've never played EQ2 on any server but Nagafen.  With these changes to PVP and the Battlegrounds thingy like WoW has to "PvP"</p><p>Is there any reason for me to resub and play on Nagafen instead of a PVE server other than to be annoyed and annoy others?</p></blockquote><p>((smile)) Nope, that's actually the essence of PvP, the freedom to annoy other players and to be annoyed by them ...</p>

Erriondrivan
06-30-2010, 08:57 PM
<p>I rerolled on PvE about a month ago. I'm already T9 and pretty happy to be off Naggy.  However I'm still keeping my fingers crossed that those with the red-names will listen and allow character transfers off pvp at some point in the near future, as I do miss my main toon. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

Whill
06-30-2010, 09:02 PM
<p>I recently left PVE and rerolled on Naggy to try things out.  I'm having a great time!  Its totally breathed new life into a game that was getting old and ho-hum for me. </p>

Tremonti
06-30-2010, 09:31 PM
<p>Ok then I lied.  More questions:</p><p>What's the Q vs F pop like?  Any suggestions for a new character? Building done any different these days then hitting 12, locking, gettting MCed and grinding out AA?  AA runs still being done daily? Halas is a Q based starting city yes?</p><p>I have a 30ish Monk, 30ish Wizard, and a high teen Assassin. (All Freeport)  Don't believe I've played Q past lvl 13 or so.</p><p>Thanks for the future answers, I do appreciate them.</p><p>-Tremonti</p>

zyllith
06-30-2010, 09:45 PM
<p><cite>Tremonti wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Ok then I lied.  More questions:</p><p>What's the Q vs F pop like?  Any suggestions for a new character? Building done any different these days then hitting 12, locking, gettting MCed and grinding out AA?  AA runs still being done daily? Halas is a Q based starting city yes?</p><p><span style="color: #ff6600;">Pop's vary by level, I'd guess about even at T6 and higher, more (2:1) Q's at T4 and T5 and probably more (3:1) FP's at T3 and T2 by what I see at the WF's.  Characters, Assassins seem to do really well, Wardens and Paladins seem to also do well.  Buildouts seem to be: level to 35 and lock, get all your PvP gear by WF participation awards and and then just start grinding the AA's until you're at 160 or so.  AA runs are still happening, check with your local guilds, although with the AA slider to 100% and the rapid XP gain at lower levels I think you can do about as well just grinding through BlackBurrow or RE a few times.  Halas I don't know, I think it's neutral and not a starting city (update, please!) ...</span></p><p>I have a 30ish Monk, 30ish Wizard, and a high teen Assassin. (All Freeport)  Don't believe I've played Q past lvl 13 or so.</p><p><span style="color: #ff6600;">Those are all good, I'd take them all to 35 and lock, start gathering WF tokens and status for PvP gear then start building AA lines ... you'll likely be whacking my toons in no time!</span></p></blockquote>

Taldier
06-30-2010, 10:45 PM
<p><cite>zyllith wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><blockquote><p><span style="color: #ff6600;">Pop's vary by level, I'd guess about even at T6 and higher,</span></p></blockquote></blockquote><p>Have you ever leveled any character past lvl 50?</p><p>Do you even have a mouth or does everything you say just come straight out of your sphincter?</p>

zyllith
06-30-2010, 11:29 PM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>zyllith wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><blockquote><p><span style="color: #ff6600;">Pop's vary by level, I'd guess about even at T6 and higher,</span></p></blockquote></blockquote><p>Have you ever leveled any character past lvl 50?</p></blockquote><p>Nope, all my toons are at 48, likely will remain there for at least a year.  This is only by observing the populations at WF's, so I have no real way of knowing the actual percentages ...</p><p>Cheers!</p>

MaCloud1032
07-01-2010, 09:58 AM
So by watching the wf you think freeport and q town at 90 are equil? Its like 5:1 in q towns favor

zyllith
07-01-2010, 10:31 AM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>So by watching the wf you think freeport and q town at 90 are equil? Its like 5:1 in q towns favor</blockquote><p>Fair enough, and I'm first to admit my numbers are likely incorrect, probably wildly so -- a poster here the other day corrected my server population counts, they have better intel than I do so I'll take their numbers over mine.</p><p>In fairness, though, the OP with the question posted the "what is the population" question in the PvP forum, which implies he/she doesn't care about how many 90 crafters there are, or how many 90's that don't PvP are around but the population in a PvP situation, of which we only have a few: the WF's, SS, EL and KP.  The WF's seem to be about the most populated PvP area of those, and so that's what I based the population count on ... and I mentioned that disclaimer a few words after the count with the phrase "<span ><span style="color: #ff6600;">by what I see at the WF's"</span></span> ...</p><p>Doesn't matter if there are 100:1 more Q's than FP's for PvP if 99 of the Q's hang around the crafting tables or avoid PvP -- for PvP it's just the 1 Q that comes out to play that gets counted ...</p>

Taldier
07-01-2010, 01:00 PM
<p><cite>zyllith wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>So by watching the wf you think freeport and q town at 90 are equil? Its like 5:1 in q towns favor</blockquote><p>...</p><p>"<span><span style="color: #ff6600;">by what I see at the WF's"</span></span> ...</p><p>...</p></blockquote><p>Proof that you've never even been to a warfield.</p>

zyllith
07-01-2010, 10:29 PM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>zyllith wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>So by watching the wf you think freeport and q town at 90 are equil? Its like 5:1 in q towns favor</blockquote><p>...</p><p>"<span><span style="color: #ff6600;">by what I see at the WF's"</span></span> ...</p><p>...</p></blockquote><p>Proof that you've never even been to a warfield.</p></blockquote><p>Yep, never been there, never will ... it's actually a simulacrum that is usually on the hill by the docks on the Ant WF, that's standing by the tower at the docks in the CL WF ... look for the T4 fury driving the FP's crazy by grey healing/ rezzing all the T2 and T3 Q's (smile) ...</p><p>Drop on by, ding a tell, probably roll me toon since it's not quite PvP capable, look for the toon with the same name ... don't dally too long, though, as an 80 doesn't seem to have a long lifespan in either of those places and I *love* to grey leech when they drop by ...</p>

Greggthegrmreapr
07-02-2010, 12:16 AM
<p>No offense, but you lost all credibility when you used the same puke orange to answer that seliri posts in.</p>

zyllith
07-02-2010, 12:30 AM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>No offense, but you lost all credibility when you used the same puke orange to answer that seliri posts in.</p></blockquote><p>((smile)) Fair enough!  No more orange!</p>

Tremonti
07-02-2010, 01:00 AM
<p><cite>zyllith wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Tremonti wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Ok then I lied.  More questions:</p><p>What's the Q vs F pop like?  Any suggestions for a new character? Building done any different these days then hitting 12, locking, gettting MCed and grinding out AA?  AA runs still being done daily? Halas is a Q based starting city yes?</p><p><span style="color: #ff6600;">Pop's vary by level, I'd guess about even at T6 and higher, more (2:1) Q's at T4 and T5 and probably more (3:1) FP's at T3 and T2 by what I see at the WF's.  Characters, Assassins seem to do really well, Wardens and Paladins seem to also do well.  Buildouts seem to be: level to 35 and lock, get all your PvP gear by WF participation awards and and then just start grinding the AA's until you're at 160 or so.  AA runs are still happening, check with your local guilds, although with the AA slider to 100% and the rapid XP gain at lower levels I think you can do about as well just grinding through BlackBurrow or RE a few times.  Halas I don't know, I think it's neutral and not a starting city (update, please!) ...</span></p><p>I have a 30ish Monk, 30ish Wizard, and a high teen Assassin. (All Freeport)  Don't believe I've played Q past lvl 13 or so.</p><p><span style="color: #ff6600;">Those are all good, I'd take them all to 35 and lock, start gathering WF tokens and status for PvP gear then start building AA lines ... you'll likely be whacking my toons in no time!</span></p></blockquote></blockquote><p>This thread has been a tad derailed in to a personal dispute.  I have just a few more questions before round 2.</p><p>1) Out of the Monk, Wizard, and Assassin, which would you guys recomend for the least amount of headache and yet group friendly?</p><p>2) Since I've been gone for a year and a half, would it benefit me to just re-roll and start over to learn everything again?  (Am not adept at the game obv.)</p><p>3) And by the pop ratio mentioned of 9-1 even though I've never experienced the Q side of things really, It would be better off PVP target wise just to stay freep I persume?</p><p>4) Oh and why is it recommended to Jam up to 35 and lock there vs.  locking at 12 now?</p><p>Thank you.</p>

zyllith
07-02-2010, 01:25 AM
<p><cite>Tremonti wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>4) Oh and why is it recommended to Jam up to 35 and lock there vs.  locking at 12 now?</blockquote><p>Other questions I don't know, others can answer.  I can only guess that people lock at 35 because that's one of the tiers for PvP gear; I'm guessing that people get the lvl 35 PvP gear, get the MC 32 gear to fill in the gaps, get the lvl 30 adornments to fill things out and start AA grinding ...</p><p>Good hunting!</p>

YasikoSetsu
07-02-2010, 01:42 AM
<p><cite>zyllith wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Tremonti wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>4) Oh and why is it recommended to Jam up to 35 and lock there vs.  locking at 12 now?</blockquote><p>Other questions I don't know, others can answer.  I can only guess that people lock at 35 because that's one of the tiers for PvP gear; I'm guessing that people get the lvl 35 PvP gear, get the MC 32 gear to fill in the gaps, get the lvl 30 adornments to fill things out and start AA grinding ...</p><p>Good hunting!</p></blockquote><p>35 for a couple reasons.</p><p>1. Every toon with the intention of locking at t4 will be at 35, so you'll have tons of white con action.</p><p>2. Mastercraft is at 32, which is a great starting point until you get your token gear.</p><p>3. 34 is the level each class gets their master 2 choice. Which helps lead to #3.</p><p>4. 35 is the level every class gets their especially powerful ancient teaching spell, that never gets upgraded for a few classes. This is the big reason. (Honed reflexes, ruthless cunning, devastation fist, etc...)</p><p>5. 35 keeps you out of the range of the painful t5 lockers in most zones, unlike the pve servers popular higher level 39 lockers.</p>